Nani was pretty good last night but I still want to see him expressing himself more than he has in the two games so far. He's too explosive a player to play in such a restrictive manner. Still a very good player mind you but he's popping up on the ball a little to rarely and then keeping it a bit too simple if anything.
Luis Nani | 2011/12 Performances
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Second one should've been a goal Hernandez hesistated to head it probably cos of the concussion. Once Chico gets his confidence to header back he'll be nodding those in all day long. Nani's delivery was on point last night.
Heh, I certainly wouldn't go that far. He's very underrated outside Utd unfortunately, hence he never even got shortlisted for PFA team of the year last season. He'll also never be on the same level as Messi or Ronaldo. He's definitely only a level or 2 down now in terms of attacking players though.
Fergie could be asking him to do that though because of the lack of experience and generally defensive abilities of the midfield. Him and Young were both cutting in quite a bit last night to help the midfield, rather than pushing too high up themselves.
I think Smalling was actually further up the right wing than Nani quite a bit last night!
I agree. Good game overall, should have had 2 assists yesterday, but I would also like to see him get a tad more involved.
Got a feeling it has something to do with Smalling as well, as good as the lad is, especially defenisvely, but going forward he doesnt offer all that much.
I think he's enjoying the understanding with some of the newer players coming in and wants to pass and play the one twos more and be less selfish. I know what you mean though, I love to see things like that moment where he faked to shoot with his right, completely fooled the defender and his shot got blocked with his left, which would've been a great goal.
Why? The thing that seperates Messi and Ronaldo from everyone else is that they are simply more consistent than any other players. They dont tend to have many off games. I know I'm contradicting one of my earlier posts in saying this but if you look at the players in abstract there isn't that much that seperates them. In terms of raw attributes like shooting power, speed, technique etc. on paper Nani is at least comparable he just doesn't produce that as often as Messi and Ronaldo do and in fairness to the guy...
...nobody does. Messi, particularly, is the most consistent footballer I've ever seen (apart from when he plays for Argentina). Whenever he plays for Barca he's at the top of his game he went into that Supercopa with Madrid a little overweight having had no real preseason with his club and still looked incredible. His consistency outshines everyone including Ronaldo.
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If Nani were to become equally consistent (and I admit its a big but) he would be regarded as Ballon d'Or material. No doubt. If Nani played every game like he played against City at Wembley or against City at Old Trafford last season it would be undeniable and I think he can do it cos for me, Nani's off days are mostly to do with his psychology not ability. He has in the past had a tendency to let it get to him when he's not on top of his game but as he grows and matures I don't see any reason why he cannot overcome this. One things for sure a confident Nani is virtually unstoppable.
Sorry, you lost me there.
That is an absolutely fecking massive 'If'. There are hundreds of players who would be Ballon d'Or material if they consistently reproduced their best two or three games, it is an incredibly difficult thing to do. that's why there are only two or three players in the history of world football who even come close to doing it.
Should have had three assist. Rooney messed two of them up, and Welbeck went backwards instead of attacking his through ball.
Yes I know but for me the key issue with Nani as to why he doesn't do this 9 times out of 10 instead of say 7 times out of 10 is entirely in his head. Its not that he's incapable of doing it.
For example there are players, flat track bullies people label them, who are incapable of doing it against bigger and better players. They can destroy the relegation battlers but put them against big teams and they're useless. They can't do it against the cream of the crop.
Nani is not one of these players. He's done it against the likes of City, Arsenal, Milan, Bayern Munich. Its not his talent thats been the problem its his menality. Sometimes, maybe justifably, he looks like has felt he didn't have the Boss' full confidence. Sometimes, maybe justifably, he seems as if he could feel the crowd on his back and its effected him.
But with age comes wisdom as they say. As he's gotten older Nani seems to have gotten his head more screwed on. He's not that young kid who needs to be constantly reassured anymore. He's growing as a personality and I think as he matures he will get to that elite level.
Sometimes you need to be thrown in at the deep end to learn the strength needed to swim. It happened to Beckham after the World Cup in 1998 which significantly ramped up his development, it happened to Ronaldo after World Cup 2006 and that ramped up his development. Nani's never really had that catalyst to project him onto the next level. That event which forced him to go to every ground in the country and shut them up. But with time he's developing that thick skin and with time he'll get there.
Have to admit Rooney annoyed me a bit when he had a go at Nani last night for over hitting a through ball towards the end of the match. Did Rooney even acknowledge those two great crosses from Nani that he spurned? I don't remember him doing so. Not to mention his own passing was shit in the first half.
His quiet performance last night was my fault. Sorry lads. Had a few quid on him to score. No finer jinx in town than my betting.
Should I stop betting on Torres yet ??
Should I stop betting on Torres yet ??
yesterday was not one of nani's best performance but he was okay. agreed he could easily had 2 or 3 assists if not for some poor finishing and hesitancy from our forwards. he was wasteful with several long range effort but we won the game and i could hardly complain.
This is the same Nani that can't even take a decent corner, right?
piss off, that's an Old Trafford disease and there is nothing Nani can do about it, I mean, Ashley Young, one of the best corner takers in the league has already caught it.
Nani had a good game yesterday. It was only disappointing by his standards. I'm glad Barcelona went and got Sanchez, because there's no doubt that he'd be the perfect fit for them with his possession play at the moment (not to mention the bit of magic he's capable of) should he ever start having dreams and talking about God.
I thought he was brilliant today, will be very important against Bolton away.
I don't think he was close to his best today, that's what is scary, he still looked more threatening that all of Arsenals players combined.
He's frighteningly good really.
He's frighteningly good really.
I think he can do much better. A bit selfish today and some bad decisions. He really hates being outshined by others hehe. By all means not a bad game by him I just know he can do better.
He's had a really selfish start to the season.
He's been doing some more inventive passes recently
I think he took the piss today without really bothering to do the basic things properly but the harder ones
Yes that's exactly what I thought.
Not quite at his terrifying best, but he didn't need to be. He's got another goal and he caused Arsenal plenty of trouble throughout.
Just wait until he hits top form.
Just wait until he hits top form.
mixed game for him, scored a goal but his decision-making still poor at times.
Links up well with Smalling but his decision making let him down today, scored a good goal.
Did well today although that awful decision to chip the keeper will cloud some opinions. But still far far off his best form. Not taking as much responsibility as he was at the start of last season.
I believe it's Ashley Young
Was needlessly selfish at times today. Still had a good game. If he hits last season's form, and Young keeps his, folks will be in real deep doodoo against us. Especially with the option of Valencia in reserve.
and park.....
I thought he had an off day, today. Very frustrating, and clearly was determined to get on the score sheet, regardless of whether another player was in a better position or not.
He made one poor choice, hardly evidence that he was clearly determined to score for personal glory. He played well today but, right now he is being over shadowed by Young.
Have to realize that the selfish bits are partly what makes him produce magic at times. A couple times a game is something to just accept as part and parcel of what makes him such a threat. Most of the great players have that selfish streak in them.
Have to realize that the selfish bits are partly what makes him produce magic at times. A couple times a game is something to just accept as part and parcel of what makes him such a threat. Most of the great players have that selfish streak in them.
wouldn't go as far as calling it an off-day. A bit mixed in that a couple of things didn't come off but he went on some brilliant runs and did his share of tracking back and tackling along with a couple of poor choices.
The ease with which he can leave a man trailing is fantastic to watch. Sure, he was up against a relatively inexperienced Traore today, but it's just an absolute joy. A lot of players have a hard time passing a man one on one if the defender is able to slow down the pace.
With Nani, good luck with that. He'll rip you a new one either way. Any suggestions on other players who are particularly good at this? Messi is the king at this for me, but I can't immediately think of anyone else who are as good as Nani at doing that.
Overall I thought he was a bit hit and miss today though. Some poor delieveries and one or two bad choices, but that's mostly just proof of how high the bar is set for him now. Was really pleased that he got the goal, and I think it was a great relief for him as well!
Still a lot more to come from him.
With Nani, good luck with that. He'll rip you a new one either way. Any suggestions on other players who are particularly good at this? Messi is the king at this for me, but I can't immediately think of anyone else who are as good as Nani at doing that.
Overall I thought he was a bit hit and miss today though. Some poor delieveries and one or two bad choices, but that's mostly just proof of how high the bar is set for him now. Was really pleased that he got the goal, and I think it was a great relief for him as well!
Still a lot more to come from him.
On the topic of workrate, just rewatched the goals, and it struck me that Nani's goal started at our LB corner flag, with him directly started the move. And bang, it was him on the other end of the pitch chipping the keeper. Wonderful workrate.
Nani takes the piss in the best possible way.
For Welbeck's wide header before he went off, Nani would have been through on goal if Rooney had slotted him in. Hindsight and all that though...
still the best!
Ok missed it then, which other incident in the game did Nani go for goal when he could have played someone else in on goal instead?
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