Luis Nani | 2010/11 Performances

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I was defending my own comment from "that" thread in another thread on here, earlier on.

To be honest, pointing and laughing at people who found Nani and incredibly frustrating and inconsistent player at the time is a bit pointless, seeing as he WAS an incredibly frustrating and inconsistent player.

In all my years watching United I can't think of any other player in whom the penny just dropped, so suddenly and so dramatically. The vast vast majority of people on here acknowledged he had huge potential from his very first game for United. A majority also found his second and third seasons to be a real disappointment. I don't know why pointing this out at the time was so laughable, seeing as that is actually what happened. Anderson's had a similarly up and down career. I'm fairly confident now he'll get his United career back on track but this shouldn't gloss over the fact he's looked out of his depth at times - including games as recently as this season.

There was a very good reason Fergie took both players out of the side for such a long time. When you look at other United youngsters that had similarly enormous potential (e.g. Rooney and Ronaldo) their progress in their early 20s was a lot smoother.

I don't understand how it happened, didn't SAF take him away from the spotlight for a while and people were saying he was finished? When what was really happening is some kind of magic behind the scenes. I remember him coming back and being a completely different player!
 
It happened the same way it's happening with Anderson.......he was given a consistent run of 90 minutes.

The only time he got somewhat consistent time on the pitch before January last year was 07/08, when he looked pretty decent for a first year young player. He and Anderson were then all over the place with their time on the pitch for the next 18 months. It was kind of like no games for 4 weeks, play twice and expected to be great in those games or be dropped...that just doesn't work often, consistent time on the pitch every week is what you need.
 
I don't understand how it happened, didn't SAF take him away from the spotlight for a while and people were saying he was finished? When what was really happening is some kind of magic behind the scenes. I remember him coming back and being a completely different player!

People seem to have a very selective memory. Nani wasn't exceptional when eh came back after new years. A few games where he was not wasteful but didn't produce much before he kicked off. Really came into his own Feb/March.
 
Nooo. I'll waste my number 14 "Chicharito" jersey.

Never yet bought a Number 7 till now so I hope it's Nani or someone else.

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The question now isn't whether he's the best winger in the country, it's "is he the best player in the country"?
 
There's little point mentioning areas of the game when you think Nani could improve because the answer will always be:

"Bollocks, look at the stats 18 assists"
 
People seem to have a very selective memory. Nani wasn't exceptional when eh came back after new years. A few games where he was not wasteful but didn't produce much before he kicked off. Really came into his own Feb/March.

He was exceptional against Hull in January, that's the game that started it all. Could have had about four assists with every one of them an absolute peach of a cross. Had a very good game against City straight after that.
 
I think assists should be qualified as some are deservedly counted and others are just where the forward makes the most out of a bad situation. Berbatov's overhead kick vs Liverpool and Rooney's volley vs City were hardly two great balls into the area. They were poor crosses that otherwise for the spectacular would have come to nothing. I'm not having a go but I think there should be two level of 'assist' praise. One where you make a key pass or well delivered cross to set up a goal, and another where you just happened to be the last person to play the ball.

If for example the Giggs goal vs Arsenal in the cup semi final replay in 1999 was played in to him by a United player standing in the position Anelka was when he gave the ball away, I think it'd be a mid misleading to go too nuts over what a fantastic assist pass it would have been.
 
That's what I mean. It's not posters saying he's been disappointing or inconsistent, but that he is a poor player and clearly not very talented!
 

Yeah, hilarious. Haha.

Check out post #57. An opinion from someone who knows more about the young talent coming through at United these last few decades than most of you chumps put together.

Seriously, the hilarity some of ye are finding in two year old threads about a player who had a massive question mark over his United career at one point is gimpish in the extreme.
 
Yeah, hilarious. Haha.

Check out post #57. An opinion from someone who knows more about the young talent coming through at United these last few decades than most of you chumps put together.

Seriously, the hilarity some of ye are finding in two year old threads about a player who had a massive question mark over his United career at one point is gimpish in the extreme.

Agreed. He was playing terribly around that time and I myself wrote him off personally as a United regular after the Spurs game.
 
Yeah, hilarious. Haha.

Check out post #57. An opinion from someone who knows more about the young talent coming through at United these last few decades than most of you chumps put together.

Seriously, the hilarity some of ye are finding in two year old threads about a player who had a massive question mark over his United career at one point is gimpish in the extreme.

It's not directed at anyone in particular and Raoul I think mentioned this thread in some other thread and it is quite funny.

And people's opinions on him at that point are quite understandable. He was an extremely frustrating and inconsistent player. Great first season but struggled in his second. Always had the talent though. That part is unquestionable.
 
Not really Pogue. He's not saying every post is stupid, but that some are, and they are. No-ones having a go at people criticizing Nani in the past, he wasn't playing well be in lack of games of inconsistent form, but for making strange conclusive judgements or saying stuff like 'Trust me, he's gone'.
 
It's not directed at anyone in particular and Raoul I think mentioned this thread in some other thread and it is quite funny.

And people's opinions on him at that point are quite understandable. He was an extremely frustrating and inconsistent player. Great first season but struggled in his second. Always had the talent though. That part is unquestionable.

It just an odd player to be smug about in hindsight, seeing as he really did look so close to the door at one point. Certainly closer than any other current member of our squad.

Apart from Rooney, funnily enough. If people want to get smug with hindsight you don't need to go back a year to see people massively under-rating his ability on here. But meh, bumping old posts/comments to take the piss out of people is a bit naff IMO.
 
People aren't getting smug, you are taking this too personal. No-ones saying, see I told you, in fact the opposite is true because I think everyone can agree he had reason to be criticized at the time, he's laughing at some of the more wilder comments, which are just funny.
 
Probably not, I didn't think he would go, but that doesn't make the opposite statements wild either. But it's not really about that, a lot of the comments are definitive judgements on a player, saying he's not a top player, won't ever be, isn't fast, isn't very talented, has never looked upto United's standards etc.

I'm not singling comments out from that thread for here, but some are funny, and to deny that is just strange. No-one is saying anyone who posted in that thread, or thought he wasn't playing great, or that he might be leaving is wrong or an idiot, but there are plenty of posts in there that were embarrassing at the time too. And for all the negativity in there, some of which didn't actually relate to anything other then dislike of Nani, there are some great posts too, particularly from Brophs.
 
Was it really all that wild to think back then that Nani had fecked his chance up though, Hectic?

No.
What pissed me off was people having a go at posters that tried to defend him and didnt write him off as of yet.

Just because some of us still had faith in him we were "fanbois" or whatever. And that's what makes it so much better that those posters were proven wrong by Nani.

He is pure class.
 
I've nothing against people who wrote him off back then, he was extremely frustrating and not fulfilling his potential at all, BUT I don't agree with the logic that he suddenly just made this leap into brilliance, because his 2 matches before the Arsenal game were fantastic too (it's why he got the nod over Valencia) and for 2 months before that he was playing better than people gave him credit for. I stuck up for him because I always had a soft spot for the lad and felt sorry for him and the stick he got, I was desperate for him to succeed, where as some posters clearly just wanted rid because they didn't fecking like him.

Hell, 3 years ago when Giggs was having his shocking form where he was moulding himself into the new type of winger he now is, I was saying he should retire. I was clearly wrong and I'll admit to that. What pisses me off is people who now say that they wanted the best for him all along and were urging him on and saying he had the potential, when that's obvious bullshit and they were flat out writing him off.
 
Great post cina, and I was the same with Fletcher, and even O'Shea, I'm glad I was wrong about both players, and admit I was clearly wrong in regards to Fletcher, who I had given up on. Other posters showed more faith and they were ridiculed, and fair play to them, I came out looking a bit of a tard, whether the masses agreed with me or not.

But with Nani it makes much less sense then with Fletcher, making it and select posts even funnier!
 
Yeah, hilarious. Haha.

Check out post #57. An opinion from someone who knows more about the young talent coming through at United these last few decades than most of you chumps put together.

Seriously, the hilarity some of ye are finding in two year old threads about a player who had a massive question mark over his United career at one point is gimpish in the extreme.

In all honesty what is wrong with it, other than you being the butt of the joke, you have a go at people over posts a week or two or old so why not go back to two years you wrote it. That said Nani has made many of look foolish with his transformation to the best player in Great Britain.
 
For me he fully turned the corner, and I had no doubts he was destined for stardom when he chipped Gomez late on v Spurs with the score tied 1-1 and United needing a win. Normies dont do that, stars do.
 
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