Even though I didnt like Anna due to the whole Ovie/Casa Amor double standards I wholeheartedly agree with this.
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Even though I didnt like Anna due to the whole Ovie/Casa Amor double standards I wholeheartedly agree with this.
Well of course, the focus is on the fact that not enough has been made of the behaviour of the men because all the women are angry, emotional & comparable to various animals.
I don't think the article is trying to present a balanced view.
Yes, but it does work both ways. There have been double standards from the beginning. Maura saying she'd like to wrap her legs around whoever. If a man had said he'd love to shove his whatever down whoever's throat, that'd be the end of him. Or Anna's "Jordan who?" moment.
The article wasn't tying to be balanced and it fecked itself over in my opinion. Could easily have chastised the men and been objective.
Maura's sexual tone worked against her with Tom's "We'll see if she's all talk" gaffe though, even though Tom caught the flack all the men were encouraging it beforehand because her openly talked about sex meant that she was only viewed in a sexual manner.
I agree that Maura's behaviour towards Tommy on the second night and trying to force a kiss on him was out of order - but that was also criticised at the time, and was reported to OFCOM 100's of time.
So it's not like her behaviour has gone unchecked, she's been criticised and has broken down on the show over it also.
Anna's "Jordan who?" was clearly a joke, and she literally said "i'm just joking I wouldn't say that really" (i'm paraphrasing) right after it - but because she's a hated character, that doesn't get covered.
Also everybody conveniently forgets that Jordan did try and crack on with Jourdan, it was just that after he failed and she clearly wasn't into him, was that he decided that he missed Anna.
I fail to see how the article could've chastised the men and been objective at the same time - also it looks like an opinion piece, so why does it need objectivity?
Absolute bollocks.
I, for one, am shocked that an article on a site called glamourmagazine portrays the men negatively and the women positively. Shocked.
The Jordan who comment was a joke, but her cracking on with Ovie wasn't a joke. Michael got more flak for choosing Joanna than Anna did for kissing Ovie within hours of meeting him.
And of course it doesn't need to be objective. It is an opinion piece. But for me, someone's opinion loses weight when they don't at least consider some objectivity. Then I start to feel someone has a narrative that they want to push.
But that’s the point of love island though isn’t it? Or am I missing something?
Michael got flack not because he simply chose Joanna. That’s just not true at all. Most of the flack wasn’t even because he chose Joanna in the first place - but rather his actions and behaviour before, during and after. He even admitted as much too.
Now that I’ve read the article I can see that stylistically it’s written very poorly, it reads like a 16 year old’s blog rather than a journalistic article.
The aim of the piece is worth discussing though because the men have been problematic but the writer is probably not the best messenger to relay the message and clearly wants clicks.
I can’t imagine glamour magazine is in your daily reading, so clearly it’s worked and reached a wider audience.
Let's be honest, they mostly are. Just like the guys are mostly absolute bellends.
It's Love Island ffs, they're all vapid douchecakes and any kind of behavioural analysis is wasted because they're not acting like normal people and they're in a very usual environment.
These are mostly horrible people dropped into a bizarre set of circumstances and filmed 24/7, of course there going to come across as cnuts a lot of the time.
Of course, insulting them and laughing at their behaviour is part of the fun.
I guess the difference for me is that the guys have openly lied about their behaviour and manipulated it to make it look like the women are acting irrationally & childishly (in Michael’s voice) when they react to the guys behaviour.
That then feeds into the stereotype about women being emotional and bitchy - when really, excluding Anna - the women have actually been in the right for the majority of the time.
But because they express themselves in a way that isn’t docile, or submissive they get compared to things like hyenas, and demeaned as bitches.
What that then means is the more quiet women garner more respect, and the ones who say what they think are hated. Also when the guys act emotionally & childishly they aren’t branded with that same judgement, or if they are - they are given the range to grow as a person during their time in the villa.
Someone like Amber is still deemed as immature and emotional because of what she was like in the first two weeks or so - compare that someone like Anton who has pretty much only been up for banter and a laugh - and his childishness isn’t used against him.
Anton has been called out on here a few times, notably when he gave his number to the shop assistant (as obviously set up as that was) and then last night when he was talking about Curtis in spite of his own history.
I just generally think reading anything until the way they're talked about is a total waste of energy given the unique circumstances and the fact that they're pretty much all perfect examples of the worst of today's "celebrity" culture.
I saw one comment about Anton last night, along with Maura joining the ‘noisy bitch crew’ I mean the difference is staggering.
Reading this thread you’d think that a number of people actively hate women - but you’re right that they’re in unique circumstances.
I just can’t imagine having such a hatred towards someone you’ve never met, when really this whole show is just for entertainment
Urgh tonight looks boring just them going on dates. Much as I hated Anna at least their conflict added some drama after having been all happy clappy and boring
That's a massive overstatement.
When presented with hateful characteristics people will react accordingly, there's nothing more to it than that. It just so happens that Anna was by far the worst in there, and thus took the brunt of most of it. Not because she's a woman, just cos she's horrible.
I’m excluding Anna when I say that.
The women have collected been referred to as bitches, cnuts, hyenas and more for expressing themselves when reacting to the behaviour of the men throughout this entire thread. It’s shocking when you reread the comments tbh.
You're automatically assuming it's all unwarranted. There's been plenty of horrendous behaviour in there, and it's not misogynistic to point that out when it's there.
Hmm no I’m looking back on the whole series, and at no point am I saying the women are completely innocent.
I’m saying that in this thread alone the criticism of them comes across as quite misogynistic, especially when compared with the criticism of the men.
You’re actually quite balanced, so it’s not directed at you - but yeah it doesn’t make for pretty reading when looking back.
I don’t really see what behaviour has warranted constant references to them being called bitches - it’s not like they randomly surround and berate the guys for no reason or without provocation, but we can agree to disagree.
Think its bollocks personally. totally bias and not at all a balanced view.
The villa this year has been particularly toxic, and dont think you single out either gender for that. Theyve both been as bad as eachother, in different aspects. You cant exclude people or genders to fit your narrative. You also cant judge comments in this thread without looking at, probably the episode before, the episode the comments about, and the episode after, because you it can be taken completely out of context.
Its been a toxic enviroment full of toxic characters from start to finish. The article mentions lucie, but fails the entire story of how she was pretty much bullied by the girls, how the public didnt think the way joe spoke to her was appropriate, and how Amber and Molly would constantly tell him how her behavior wasnt on. It fails to mention the entire picture. Bollocks article tbh.
The villa this year has been particularly toxic, and dont think you single out either gender for that. Theyve both been as bad as eachother, in different aspects. You cant exclude people or genders to fit your narrative. You also cant judge comments in this thread without looking at, probably the episode before, the episode the comments about, and the episode after, because you it can be taken completely out of context.
Its been a toxic enviroment full of toxic characters from start to finish. The article mentions lucie, but fails the entire story of how she was pretty much bullied by the girls, how the public didnt think the way joe spoke to her was appropriate, and how Amber and Molly would constantly tell him how her behavior wasnt on. It fails to mention the entire picture. Bollocks article tbh.
I really wouldn't be surprised if he was
Curtis is a manipulative psychopath who masks his behaviour behind fake smiles and a bubbly personality.
He’s been playing a game from the start and is the most toxic in the whole house. Anna included.
He’s been playing a game from the start and is the most toxic in the whole house. Anna included.
I dunno if id go that far, but he definitely played the game with Amy.
Antons 100% Metro. Curtis, dunno. Well hes definitely not gay, he shagged maura the other night.
Yea Curtis is a devious prick and if he told me it was raining outside I'd check out the window.
Not buying him and Moura in the slightest.
I think anton is gay.
The man is a void and his treatment towards Amy was horrible.
I haven't thought about Anton but he could be but Curtis definitely is
I originally fell for Curtis' nice guy front had I been in there he is the one I'd have picked but now his true colours are showing, several people on here noticed it way before me that he came across as playing a game. He used to annoy me when he was with Amy offering his smug advice. Now he comes across as sickly and slimy like he thinks the sun shines out his arse. Urgh. If I was choosing now it would definitely be Tommy. Unless it just hasn't shown it but its come across as mostly him asking Molly stuff has she asked him anything about his boxing etc?
I haven't really paid attention to any of this episode. Wonder what Anna would have done if she and Jordan were still there? Refused to go?
I hated just about everything about Anna but she had Curtis down to a tee when she called him a narcissist. He's a twat.
Ok out of interest why do a couple of you think Anton is gay? He does seem very sweet he came across as awful at the beginning but he's actually quite sweet I don't think he and Belle really go through they come across as a bit tick box
Tommy and Curtis watching some of the footage of them around the time of the Amy stuff, you would have said they were the couple
Tommy and Curtis watching some of the footage of them around the time of the Amy stuff, you would have said they were the couple
If the blokes all circled round one of the girls and screamed at her how much of a bitch she was the police would've been called.
To balance out my comments on Anna:
- Curtis is fake and probably a narcissist (not the only one)
- Jordan is gross, immature & arrogant
- Tom was a twat, very calculated
- Michael was an arrogant liar
- Maura is funny
- Amber handled the michael situation really well and is mature for her age
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Right now id vote Ovie and india for the win.
Simply do not believe Molly Mae likes Tommy at all. And shit stirred far too much this season.
Dont care much for Anton and Belle.
Dont particularly like Greg (though im warming to him, after calling out Curtis last night).
Dont really feel anything towards Maurtis.
Dont think ive missed anyone. Tell you what though, Chris and Fran got shafted. They should have been in a lot earlier.
Simply do not believe Molly Mae likes Tommy at all. And shit stirred far too much this season.
Dont care much for Anton and Belle.
Dont particularly like Greg (though im warming to him, after calling out Curtis last night).
Dont really feel anything towards Maurtis.
Dont think ive missed anyone. Tell you what though, Chris and Fran got shafted. They should have been in a lot earlier.
Yeah I hated her too but he is definitely a twat. Also Jordan led her up the garden path asking her to be his girlfriend also did anyone notice he kept grinning when she was confronting him, that prompted fuelled the fire it definitely would me
Her reaction to the baby task did make me smirk.
Yea she had him sussed, I've hated his act since the beginning.
I don't think Anton is gay, he's just vain and metro.
Ovie and India are the best couple for me, although that's 85% down to him being the absolute don.
Molly is so full of shit it's coming out her ears and Tommy is a nice lad but thick as a brick and pretty dull.
Molly is so full of shit it's coming out her ears and Tommy is a nice lad but thick as a brick and pretty dull.
Tbh, what are people expecting/wanting? Last season was objectively boring bar Adam and Wes leaving whatsherface.
Least this seasons been filled with drama
Least this seasons been filled with drama
I cant quite make India out, she comes across as potentially playing a game, she has all the outside knowledge. If I'm going in late and playing a game I'd be assessing who the public think is most popular, even better if they are single so you dont cause controversy splitting them up- oh look Ovie ticks all these boxes. You dont allow your head to be turned (Jordan after her.) However she may be genuine and a quieter character who's been pushed to the side a bit by the gang of alpha women eg Mura Anna and Amber. I would probably try and fly under the radar if faced with them
His happiest moments have come from spending time with the guys, and has gotten more upset at his friends leaving rather than losing the girls he’s been coupled up with.
He’s been coupled up with Belle for a few weeks now, and has barely tried anything on with her, you never see them kissing or being intimate even at night time - she’ll stroke the back of his neck but that’s about it. If they broke up I actually don’t think he’d care. But if Tommy was to go I think he’d have a meltdown - it’s very odd.
Yeah his behaviour was nagging at me for quite a while. He is weird.
I mean it does. It literally means he isnt gay. Could be Bi mind, but hes certainly not gay.
Did he?
From the way she was talking this episode he doesn't want to have sex in there.
In the hideaway. About 95% certain we saw them at it.
Well that was a shit episode. More exciting in here than on me screen