Lost Series 4 *BE AWARE THIS THREAD MIGHT INCLUDE SPOILERS*

The black guy is probably the smoke monster, haunting the people who left the Island - not letting them go.

I was wondering who was in the coffin and who's funeral Jack went to at the end of season 3, and now I'm thinking it might be Hurley's.

1) Smoke monster visits Hurley.
2) Hurley gets spooked
3) Jack sees Hurley
4) Hurley dies. Suicide? Smoke monster?
5) Jack is depressed. Tries to take his life.
6) Sees Kate. Passes on the unhappiness, etc.

Still a work in progress though I know and its not like Jack is actually going to kill himself, but maybe its the unhappiness and will to make things end that is passed on. So far we've seen both Hurley and Jack and they have both been terrible. Kate looks good - but so did Jack when he met up with Hurley. So next I'm expecting her life to be back in the shitter.

As for the "Oceanic 6" - I can see it being Jack, Hurley, Kate, Clare + Aaron and maybe err.. Sawyer or Sayid. Though really, now that Sawyer's main plot has finished, I can see him dying.

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rest of it makes sense but i dont think the black guy is the smoke monster
 
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rest of it makes sense but i dont think the black guy is the smoke monster

It's possible though isnt it? The smoke monster has already taken on a human form when it was talking to Ecko as his brother and then killed him.

Possibly, the smoke cant leave the island. But we dont know that. Besides, if you watch when the black guy leaves the room it almost looks like a black smoke he leaves behind. Its just his shadow, but it does suggest it could be the black smoke monster.
 
The black guy is probably the smoke monster, haunting the people who left the Island - not letting them go.

I was wondering who was in the coffin and who's funeral Jack went to at the end of season 3, and now I'm thinking it might be Hurley's.

1) Smoke monster visits Hurley.
2) Hurley gets spooked
3) Jack sees Hurley
4) Hurley dies. Suicide? Smoke monster?
5) Jack is depressed. Tries to take his life.
6) Sees Kate. Passes on the unhappiness, etc.

Still a work in progress though I know and its not like Jack is actually going to kill himself, but maybe its the unhappiness and will to make things end that is passed on. So far we've seen both Hurley and Jack and they have both been terrible. Kate looks good - but so did Jack when he met up with Hurley. So next I'm expecting her life to be back in the shitter.

As for the "Oceanic 6" - I can see it being Jack, Hurley, Kate, Clare + Aaron and maybe err.. Sawyer or Sayid. Though really, now that Sawyer's main plot has finished, I can see him dying.
Oceanic 6 has already been spoiled ......

Spoilers*******************************

It's Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun and Jin.

Plus Desmond may make it off and won't be counted among Oceanic 6.

This season is all about reaching the point when Oceanic 6 decide to go back. Ofcourse also show how they got made it off.

Next would be about how they again reach the island and what's going on with people left there in the mean time.

The last will be resolution.
 
Oceanic 6 has already been spoiled ......

Spoilers*******************************

It's Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Sun and Jin.

Plus Desmond may make it off and won't be counted among Oceanic 6.

This season is all about reaching the point when Oceanic 6 decide to go back. Ofcourse also show how they got made it off.

Next would be about how they again reach the island and what's going on with people left there in the mean time.

The last will be resolution.

I heard that spoiler too, but I dont believe it.

Does Sun lose the baby then? Else its 7 people.
 
I heard that spoiler too, but I dont believe it.

Does Sun lose the baby then? Else its 7 people.
It's from reliable sources. Same one who correctly predicted deaths before and the flash forward thing last season.

Sayid, Sun-jin and Kate all have their flash forwards coming up so they definitely make it off. Another person outside of Oceanic 6 is supposed to have made it as well, could be Desmond or Juliet or even Ben I think.

There is another big spoiler about last episode of the season.
 
It's from reliable sources. Same one who correctly predicted deaths before and the flash forward thing last season.

Sayid, Sun-jin and Kate all have their flash forwards coming up so they definitely make it off. Another person outside of Oceanic 6 is supposed to have made it as well, could be Desmond or Juliet or even Ben I think.

There is another big spoiler about last episode of the season.[/QUOTE

So again, no baby?
 
baby doesn't count if its in the mother.

if those 6 got off the island then only sawyer and locke are left on the island who can fight.
 
I'm just glad I have Sky+ and don't have to watch a single advert, or I'd be fecking bored outa my head.
 
It's from reliable sources. Same one who correctly predicted deaths before and the flash forward thing last season.

Sayid, Sun-jin and Kate all have their flash forwards coming up so they definitely make it off. Another person outside of Oceanic 6 is supposed to have made it as well, could be Desmond or Juliet or even Ben I think.

There is another big spoiler about last episode of the season.[/QUOTE

So again, no baby?
Baby would be there I guess. The name of their episode is after the name of their child. Jeyon or something and Jin is seen outside a toy shop with panda or something.
 
I can't wait...I'm going to have to hurry up and watch Heroes Eps 9,10,11..don't wan to be going through too many shows at once.

Important question:

Kate, or Juliet?

I'd do Kate all round the island
 
just saw episode 02

who is the black guy? he seems to me a leader of another organization

charlotte the girl that came from the boat is fit :drool: and ben is always one step ahead of everyone

"Time travel and other supernatural elements will be a part of the season, and decoy endings have been shot" :angel:
 
Brilliant episode as usuall,just wish i could watch 10 episodes of lost everyday,one of the few shows were constant plot twists arent annoying,just keeps growing on you.
 
Brilliant episode as usuall,just wish i could watch 10 episodes of lost everyday,one of the few shows were constant plot twists arent annoying,just keeps growing on you.

seconded...im always looking forward to the next episode
 
Brilliant episode. Much better than last week... John Locke is easily the best character on TV. I don't like any of the new people though, they're all gimps. Hope Locke kills them all soon.

Its blatant that John Locke is gonna blow that chopper up. Because John locke will feck your shit up. http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/John_Locke :lol:



Just read this, and it's similar to what I was thinking:

"The 815 survivors have rifles and guns. The 815 survivors have a camp, a really weird agenda (some of them anyway), and about half of them have no desire to leave the island. Sound a little familiar? You bet. Our beloved 815’ers have come full circle. They’ve executed their own purge, but the Others aren’t truly gone: the 815’ers have become the Others – without even knowing how."
 
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That kind of explains it all.

Basically, when the plane crashed in 2004, to the real world it appeared that it was in the ocean and everyone was dead etc. However, the plane actually crashed on the island and was sent back in time to the year 2000.

The button pushing keeps the island in its own timeloop i.e. time is frozen within that 108 minute stretch. When Desmond hits the failsafe, the year on the island is 2000 as is now the year in the real world (see new timeline). The island is also therefore visible to the outside world, hence Naomi is able to locate it.

As everyone was supposed to die in the plane crash in 2004, fate has a way of 'course correcting.' So the 6 that get off the island will eventually die before September 22nd, 2004 in the new timeline. Hence when we see at the end of season 3, Jack is at a funeral who we assume to be Sawyer's because of Kate's reaction.

The island will also be destroyed because in the original timeline, the plane crashed in the middle of the ocean where no island existed, so fate's course correction will lead to the island's destruction.

Least that's how I understand it:nervous:
 
image067.jpg

That kind of explains it all.

Basically, when the plane crashed in 2004, to the real world it appeared that it was in the ocean and everyone was dead etc. However, the plane actually crashed on the island and was sent back in time to the year 2000.

The button pushing keeps the island in its own timeloop i.e. time is frozen within that 108 minute stretch. When Desmond hits the failsafe, the year on the island is 2000 as is now the year in the real world (see new timeline). The island is also therefore visible to the outside world, hence Naomi is able to locate it.

As everyone was supposed to die in the plane crash in 2004, fate has a way of 'course correcting.' So the 6 that get off the island will eventually die before September 22nd, 2004 in the new timeline. Hence when we see at the end of season 3, Jack is at a funeral who we assume to be Sawyer's because of Kate's reaction.

The island will also be destroyed because in the original timeline, the plane crashed in the middle of the ocean where no island existed, so fate's course correction will lead to the island's destruction.

Least that's how I understand it:nervous:
That'd be very difficult to explain in a script so I doubt thats right.
 
It's not my theory, but if you read the article linked in Veron's post, I've basically summed up what I understand of it. When you read the whole thing it really does make sense and things start to click. Never know, could be true
 
The button pushing keeps the island in its own timeloop i.e. time is frozen within that 108 minute stretch.

and if that is the case then I would think the others would've been far more cautious and precise with it and not let some idiot keep pushing the "so important button".
And why didn't they made it automatic in the first place? What's the point in 108 minutes and the manual entering of digits?

They've stretched the story beyond silliness.
 
and if that is the case then I would think the others would've been far more cautious and precise with it and not let some idiot keep pushing the "so important button".
And why didn't they made it automatic in the first place? What's the point in 108 minutes and the manual entering of digits?

They've stretched the story beyond silliness.

If they created a computer program to reset the time-loop,technically it would go back to a time when the program was not created and would not be able to reset it again.

Like mentioned in that theory the producers had no idea they were going to implement this idea in the first season or even the second hence there will be some flaws you'll have to accept,like if the time reset's every 108 minutes,there would be no nightfall,just the same 108 minutes in the afternoon repeating itself over and over again,ofcourse you could argue that only the island is in the time-loop but the outside world like the sky lives in an alternate present.

And about the others being more cautious,they dont know about it,only Ben and Jacob in the island know about it and choose the 108 minutes because it was already set-up by dharma intiative as one of thier exersizes and it was more convienient to implement it this way.
 
image067.jpg

That kind of explains it all.

Basically, when the plane crashed in 2004, to the real world it appeared that it was in the ocean and everyone was dead etc. However, the plane actually crashed on the island and was sent back in time to the year 2000.

The button pushing keeps the island in its own timeloop i.e. time is frozen within that 108 minute stretch. When Desmond hits the failsafe, the year on the island is 2000 as is now the year in the real world (see new timeline). The island is also therefore visible to the outside world, hence Naomi is able to locate it.

As everyone was supposed to die in the plane crash in 2004, fate has a way of 'course correcting.' So the 6 that get off the island will eventually die before September 22nd, 2004 in the new timeline. Hence when we see at the end of season 3, Jack is at a funeral who we assume to be Sawyer's because of Kate's reaction.

The island will also be destroyed because in the original timeline, the plane crashed in the middle of the ocean where no island existed, so fate's course correction will lead to the island's destruction.

Least that's how I understand it:nervous:

When desmond left the timer go on beyond 108 minutes,the time-machine stopped and the island which kept repeating the same day in the year 2001 started progressing in realtime of 2001 from then,at that moment the electomagnetic waves surronding the island destroyed the oceanic flight which crashed onto the island,desmond fearing the worst started pressing the button again and thus our losties were now part of the time loop.

When locke destroyed it,the island was once again visible to the ouside world.

When charlie made contact with desmond's girlfriend,it was desmond's girlfriend from the year 2001,she only knew desmond was lost on the boat race for about 30 days and infact that's the reason she sends her own rescue operations in the year 2004 when we see her contacted by someone on the north-pole.

The havoced flight we see in episode 2 is actually created by the dharma initiative in the year 2001 with all the same passengers so that once the time-machine is stopped there won't be two versions of them and aminly to see if they could change the course of fate through alterations in the time-machine.
 
That'd be very difficult to explain in a script so I doubt thats right.

They actually have 4 more seasons to explain that.

But i think they'll only reveal the plot beofre the final season
 
It's not my theory, but if you read the article linked in Veron's post, I've basically summed up what I understand of it. When you read the whole thing it really does make sense and things start to click. Never know, could be true

It makes too much sense.

Another great explanation was the half-dead.

For example,somewhere in season 1 jack sees his dad,how? because he was dead in the year 2004 but alive during the year 2001,and since they were living in the year 2001 he was was half-dead.Same with hurley and his friend who might have actually been his friend before going to the mental institution.

But the most Concrete proof that this thoery could be true is in the flashforward of jack in the finale of season 3 when in the year 2004,sometime before the crash which was supposed to kill him,he mentions that his dad is still alive,which means after escaping from the island he was somehow able to convince his father not to make the mistakes that could kil him,i just realised that jack's father dies only a few days beforre the crash.
 
half-dead theory does not make sense because jacks father dead body and eko's brothers dead body is in the island so i can understand they are half dead because of the timeline thing but what about dave how did he appear if he's no where in the island...

and richard does not age while walt was older and apparently both of them time travel
 
All these time theories are not gonna happen.

LOST is a mainstream popular show, watched by millions, majority of them being thick yanks. The whole explanation is going to be a simple one. One people who even don't know about the science can understand. The whole button thing was there for this reason only.