I'm slightly confused. Was that a Jin flashback and a Sun flashforward then? Or was it a flashforward of both, and Jin isn't dead, but has left Sun. Confuzzled 
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Some of the theories regarding Ji Yeon and Jin's death?
Theory 1:
Jin's segment in the show was in fact a flashback. This suggests that Jin does die and it also explains him saying that he had only been married for 2 months.
This idea can also be backed up by Jin's tombstone which says DOD was the day flight 815 crashed suggesting he never made it off the island, however, the writers said we would know all of the oceanic six by now. Perhaps, it is a red herring and the introduction of Michael is exactly that. Is he the sixth member? The most likely contender is Aaron.
Probability: 90%
Theory 2:
Jin stages his own death and starts a new life. A suggested reason is tha we eventually find out the baby is in fact not Jin's. This is unlikely because of the DOD but this could have been manipulated very easily.
Probability: 20-30%
Theory 3:
Jin has 'side effects' when he leaves the island. This sends him into a parallel universe or back in time. The side effects also cause loss of memory. He forgets flight 815 but continues his life in the alternate timeline/ or in the past.
Probability 13%
Theory 4:
Mr Paik (Sun's father) wants Jin to have nothing to do with his daughter. He arranges for Jin's death but Jin agrees to fake his death. He find's a new love, keeps his job with Mr Paik but to the rest of Paik's family Jin is a dead man.
Probability: 16%
Theory 5:
Both Sun and Jin's segments were flashforwards. However, Jin's flashforward was set before Sun's. Jin does get off the island but is killed sometime off the island in the future before the Oceanic Six are revealed to the world. This is because it is easier to cover up his death by saying he died on the plane hence the DOD on Jin's gravestone. Also this theory means Jin is not a member of the Oceanic Six.
Probability: 23%
Theory 6:
The final theory has Jin doing Ben's bidding. In order to make Jin hard to trace, Ben 'arranges' for Jin's fake death. Jin is caught out by one of the people on the list and is killed. Ben has previously made sure no-one knew he made it off the island so he could easily cover-up his death. After Jin's death, Ben blackmails Sayid to take over. Jin acts almost as a 'mole' for Ben in the future.
Probability: 2%
Some of the theories regarding Ji Yeon and Jin's death?
Theory 1:
Jin's segment in the show was in fact a flashback. This suggests that Jin does die and it also explains him saying that he had only been married for 2 months.
This idea can also be backed up by Jin's tombstone which says DOD was the day flight 815 crashed suggesting he never made it off the island, however, the writers said we would know all of the oceanic six by now. Perhaps, it is a red herring and the introduction of Michael is exactly that. Is he the sixth member? The most likely contender is Aaron.
Probability: 90%
Theory 2:
Jin stages his own death and starts a new life. A suggested reason is tha we eventually find out the baby is in fact not Jin's. This is unlikely because of the DOD but this could have been manipulated very easily.
Probability: 20-30%
Theory 3:
Jin has 'side effects' when he leaves the island. This sends him into a parallel universe or back in time. The side effects also cause loss of memory. He forgets flight 815 but continues his life in the alternate timeline/ or in the past.
Probability 13%
Theory 4:
Mr Paik (Sun's father) wants Jin to have nothing to do with his daughter. He arranges for Jin's death but Jin agrees to fake his death. He find's a new love, keeps his job with Mr Paik but to the rest of Paik's family Jin is a dead man.
Probability: 16%
Theory 5:
Both Sun and Jin's segments were flashforwards. However, Jin's flashforward was set before Sun's. Jin does get off the island but is killed sometime off the island in the future before the Oceanic Six are revealed to the world. This is because it is easier to cover up his death by saying he died on the plane hence the DOD on Jin's gravestone. Also this theory means Jin is not a member of the Oceanic Six.
Probability: 23%
Theory 6:
The final theory has Jin doing Ben's bidding. In order to make Jin hard to trace, Ben 'arranges' for Jin's fake death. Jin is caught out by one of the people on the list and is killed. Ben has previously made sure no-one knew he made it off the island so he could easily cover-up his death. After Jin's death, Ben blackmails Sayid to take over. Jin acts almost as a 'mole' for Ben in the future.
Probability: 2%
taken from lost forum
Some of the theories regarding Ji Yeon and Jin's death?
Theory 1:
Jin's segment in the show was in fact a flashback. This suggests that Jin does die and it also explains him saying that he had only been married for 2 months.
This idea can also be backed up by Jin's tombstone which says DOD was the day flight 815 crashed suggesting he never made it off the island, however, the writers said we would know all of the oceanic six by now. Perhaps, it is a red herring and the introduction of Michael is exactly that. Is he the sixth member? The most likely contender is Aaron.
Probability: 90%
It better be that.I knew it!
Agreed with this one, although just because he never made it off the island doesn't mean he's necessarily dead. I suppose Aaron is technically a survivor of the crash.
But, he wasn't on the manifest as Claire was pregnant at the time of the crash. I don't think he is one of the Oceanic 6
Is it possible that Ben assumed someone else's identity? Or that the sixth survivor hasn't been revealed yet?
Poor episode... just hit me that lost has stopped beign about jack being the hero... can't they just focus more on desmond,sayid,locke,jack and sawyer,the rest are way too borinng.
I was hoping ben's spy on the boat would've been sayid himself from the future or something.The Micheal thing was soo expected.
I was hoping ben's spy on the boat would've been sayid himself from the future or something.The Micheal thing was soo expected.
I don't believe that the 6th survivor has been revealed yet, but perhaps I'm taking the 'Oceanic 6' thing far too literally. It is possible that Ben could have assumed the identity of someone else, but I don't think this is possible because in this episode gone by, they said something about agrieved families and whatnot. So if Ben assumed the identity of someone else, I'm pretty sure their family would be pissed off and it would have been over the news. The 'Oceanic 6' did leak over the net, but I think Jin isn't one of them because in this episode that was his flashback, and Sun's flashforward. We can also rule out Desmond because he came to the island by boat, but there's no saying whether he got off or not. There's also Juliet. I think the 6th member is yet to be revealed, and it will be someone completely unexpected.
He could have taken someone's identity who didn't really have anyone back in the 'real world' maybe sawyer?
But I hope your right about it not being revealed yet, as non of the other options really fit in with the 'oceanic 6' tag yet. As Jin's gravestone was dated from the time of the crash, I suppose we can assume he didn't get off the island whether he's still alive or not.
The island is the holy grail. The whole story is basically about powerful secret companies trying to get the secret of eternal life.
That's it. Mystery solved.
PTME
That's it. Mystery solved.
PTME
6th member could be Michael
the writers said we'll get to know the oceanic 6 after yesterday's episode and im still confused about the 6th
So its
Jack
Kate
Hugo
Sayeed
Aaron
Jin's wife
and unoffically
Ben
???
Jack
Kate
Hugo
Sayeed
Aaron
Jin's wife
and unoffically
Ben
???
aaron is not the 6th, the directors have also confirmed this
plus he wasn't on the plane
plus he wasn't on the plane
I don't see this happening because he wouldn't go anywhere without Walt. I bet Walt's hiding somewhere on the boat and has mastered some sort of psychic telekenetic powers. Perhaps his mental abilities have grown proportionally with his physical body
Is Jin actually dead?
It's not really clear yet, as the date of his death was when the plane crashed I assume he's still on the island.
Sun would have still been upset about him not being there for the birth and the fact that he's stuck on the island.
What if their child is born on the island and leaves together with Sun (but not Jin). Couldn't she be the sixth?
Didn't we see the child being born in the hospital??
I think he is dead. Don't see sun leaving the island without him in any scenario.
didnt you see her being born in the hospital in sun's flashforward
yep, and he did say that he would do anything to protect her and the baby. I suspect he dies doing just that
To be honest I watched the last episode in the middle of the night and was dead tired so I might have missed something but I thought that part was a bit strange. Did you get to see the kid after the birth? Because I didn't catch that. When I saw it I wondered if it was a flashback and not a 'flashforward' and that Sun might have had a miscarriage or something, meaning that it wasn't the same pregnancy. Then there was that ambassador who had a gran daughter, what was that bit all about?
She had the baby in a flash forward calling for Jin even though he's dead (she visits his grave with Hurley and the baby at the end of the episode) and Jin's part was a flash back to his old life where he was buying a panda to take to an ambassador's daughter who was having a baby in order to gain his support for something.
03/01 - You heard about "the death" that's coming up, right? Well, fear not, 'cause from what I understand, this death does not mean it's the last we'll see of this person on the show-not by a long shot.
From 1st March. I reckon theres a twist with Jin's upcoming "death".
From 1st March. I reckon theres a twist with Jin's upcoming "death".
That simply means he will still play a role in the show despite dying in the future. Which he will till he dies....and may also come back for more flashbacks.
I also think they will kill Sawyer off...
Ok thanks mate. I somehow managed to miss that
Yeh in the episode, she was talking to Hurley and said something like 'The doctors said I was calling for Jin' which kind of infers that he's dead. It's quite clever how they structured the episode.
Jack said they brought 2 bodies with them. Not sure how that is going play out. I hope they don't say that those 2 bodies are from the crash which would be a massive goof since dead bodies won't preserve for 100 days+. And on the tombstone it was mentioned Jin died on the date of crash itself meaning that's what they told the outside world. So if they show one the bodies being brought as being Jin, then it is a goof. Or they would bury him in the island itself and that was symbolic tomb.
I think those two bodies will be Rose and Bernard.
I think those two bodies will be Rose and Bernard.
noooo
keep dreaming....he doesn't get off the island
Even if there's only one spot left and she will die if she stays on the island?
Why does it infer that?
The date on the headstone suggests he didn't make it off the island, it's a possibility he died on the island, but he could still be alive. Sun would visit the headstone either to cover for the story that only 6 survived, or as a way to feel close to him.
What?
We already know she got off. And I don't see a scenario arising where she would leave without Jin even if it means risking her life. And if she did then she would be trying everything in her power to get back and not crying in front of a false tombstone.
And?
They can kill him on the island.
His part is getting reduced a lot. He has more or less fulfilled his prophecy of taking revenge on real Sawyer. He has no centric episodes this season. He can easily get killed off this season.
It suggests he's not there anymore, so the doctors found it weird that she was calling for him.
Dude that makes no sense.rufus diabolus said:
well this season mainly focuses on those who get off the island
those who stay on the island are hardly getting any attention anyways...
i dont think jin is dead because why would they show the date on which the plane crashed on the tombstone ? you know how lost works they are indirectly saying he didnt get off the island
those who stay on the island are hardly getting any attention anyways...
i dont think jin is dead because why would they show the date on which the plane crashed on the tombstone ? you know how lost works they are indirectly saying he didnt get off the island