Television Lost: Season 5

Solius said:
We don't know why he is special though, I think that storyline got scrapped, remember the whole Mrs Clu thing?
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:lol: Yeah that was pretty wank...We still don't know why they were pretending to be all rustic & feral either...that was all a bit silly

I'd love to see walt come back in in the 6th though...that'd be cool...This is actually the first finale he hasn't appeared in
 
Also, where the feck is Cindy and that little egg headed kid and his sister?
 
Better question is why did not the survivors taken by others flash. Or why did not, some of the others who were externally recruited by Ben like Juliet Flash.

Or who was that woman who came to punish Juliet when she shot an other?
 
MockneyRevil said:
None Sense (or nonsense)

S1 Finale answered nothing...It ended with them blowing off the hatch door & looking inside. The questions about what was inside wasn't answered untill the S2 premiere. The question about who took walt and where weren't answered untill well into S2 and the question of Why hasn't even been answered yet

S2 Finale answered few questions. It didn't answer what happened when they didn't push the button because you didn't really know exactly what happened until S3...It just told you lots of stuff got sucked around and the door blew off...you didn't know the fate of anyone inside untill the 3rd episode....In fact it wasn't until episode 7 when they told you what happened to desmond. It relied completely on new information (Desmond's life story and Penny finding the island) neither of these things where questions being asked in S2..it was a new strand of info, much like this seasons

S3 Finale was the most satisfactory in terms of answers. We found out they got off the island and that Jack was miserable. This was easily the best finale ending for me. Still though, you never found out who was coming to the island on the boat (one of the main mysteries of that season) untill Season 4......It also told you nothing about Jacob & the Cabin which were both brought up this season

S4 Finale didn't really answer anything either. It told us how they got off the island but we'd known that they'd gotten off since season 3, so it wasn't that amazing. It also didn't tell us what happened when they moved the island until S5..however it did tell us who was in the coffin.

S5 Finale told us who jacob was...That he'd influenced every major 815 cast member in some way, that he has a rival, that the statue was a giant crocodile and thats were he lived (something we'd been wanting to know since S2 finale) It told us that Locke was actually dead and hadn't be ressurected. It told us that the other passengers on Ajira are working for Jacob, it told us that Ben, in essence, is not very important. It told us how whats his face (dhrama video guy) lost his hand.....Lots of stuff

It raised new questions but every season finale has...It was quite typical lost to be honest. And no one saw it coming....Which is the genius of the show
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All wrong.

S1 was not about hatch at all. Anyone who was watching it find out what was inside the hatch, was a mug.

S2 main plot was the button. If it was for real or just an experiment. That was answered. Also they showed shots of other people after Des turned the fail safe key to show that everyone was safe. Only people whose fate was left hanging the balance were Locke, Desmond and Eko.

S5 is similar to S2 in that respect. The main plot line which encompassed this whole season was whether it is possible to change future or not.

Anyone who has even basic grasp of storytelling can tell you that it makes no sense to postpone that question till next season other than a cheap ploy to rope in more viewers for the first episode. When you have spent a whole batch of episode theorizing about time travel, you have to give a resolution at the end of these episodes. Not when you are about to start a new chapter.
 
crappycraperson said:
All wrong.
S5 is similar to S2 in that respect. The main plot line which encompassed this whole season was whether it is possible to change future or not.
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No I bloody wasn't...The notion of the bomb and the possibility of changing the future was only brought up in ep13, the variable....it was a plot point for 2 whole episodes before the finally....as it stood before, we were simply laboring under the assumption that 'whatever happened, happened'...we weren't told it was possible to change it (explicitaly) untill well into the season...

Also the hatch was a massive plot point in season 1...what major plot point was resolved in Exodus then?

Your confusing what things 'you' wanted answering with what is fact...Other fans might not have been so interested in that...I wasn't particularly.
 
cina said:
This is generally where you explain what it was about.

The hatch was the central plotline of S1, clearly.
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Was it? S1 was all about the characters.

feck, some of you lot are thick.

Here, I will spell it out more clearly for you.

The whole hatch situation was never going to be resolved within season 1 itself. They took one whole season to play around that plot.

Now here is a simple question. How man episodes in the next season, will they take to show what happened after the nuke exploded? A whole season like they did with the hatch situation?

I will bet you any amount that they will establish the outcome in the first episode it self. Thereafter they will move on to a new plot line. Basically whatever happened happened conundrum about changing the future would be answered in the first episode of season 6 when the whole plot line was played in the previous season.
 
MockneyRevil said:
No I bloody wasn't...The notion of the bomb and the possibility of changing the future was only brought up in ep13, the variable....it was a plot point for 2 whole episodes before the finally....as it stood before, we were simply laboring under the assumption that 'whatever happened, happened'...we weren't told it was possible to change it (explicitaly) untill well into the season...

Also the hatch was a massive plot point in season 1...what major plot point was resolved in Exodus then?

Your confusing what things 'you' wanted answering with what is fact...Other fans might not have been so interested in that...I wasn't particularly.
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Err they debated about the ability to change the future throughout the season. Before the nuke, Sayid shot Ben so that he could change the future. At that time, that did not happen depending on your interpretation of whatever happened happened. Nuke was also introduced very early on and it was obvious i was going to come into play later on.
 
crappycraperson said:
Err they debated about the ability to change the future throughout the season. Before the nuke, Sayid shot Ben so that he could change the future. At that time, that did not happen depending on your interpretation of whatever happened happened. Nuke was also introduced very early on and it was obvious i was going to come into play later on.
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Fair enough, they toyed with it...but it wasn't as important to me as it seems to you...plus it just as obvious to me they weren't going to reveal what happened untill S6E1 as it was to you they wouldn't show you the hatch untill S2?

Again, your getting frustrated because what you wanted answering wasn't and the whole Jacob scenario...which has been in play a lot longer, since season 3, was what was dealt with....These are the classic frustrations of Lost and if you expected any different the 'you are thick' as you would have it...

Your clutching at straws with S1 now too...yes, it was about the characters, but the whole 'plot' (and 'the characters' is not a plot) was about the others taking a child and opening the hatch...neither of these were dealt with satisfactorily in the finale...'Your thick' if you expected otherwise
 
MockneyRevil said:
Fair enough, they toyed with it...but it wasn't as important to me as it seems to you...plus it just as obvious to me they weren't going to reveal what happened untill S6E1 as it was to you they wouldn't show you the hatch untill S2?

Again, your getting frustrated because what you wanted answering wasn't and the whole Jacob scenario...which has been in play a lot longer, since season 3, was what was dealt with....These are the classic frustrations of Lost and if you expected any different the 'you are thick' as you would have it...

Your clutching at straws with S1 now too...yes, it was about the characters, but the whole 'plot' (and 'the characters' is not a plot) was about the others taking a child and opening the hatch...neither of these were dealt with satisfactorily in the finale...'Your thick' if you expected otherwise
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Yeah, I am the one clutching at straws. I don't know how may series you have watched or if you have any clue about the art of storytelling.

Black smoke moster, french lady, others were all introduced before the hatch in season 1. Next you will be telling me there were major plot points like the hatch. S1 was about establishing the characters and the environment they were in.

All this is futile anyway, it all comes down to one question I asked above.

How man episodes in the next season, will they take to show what happened after the nuke exploded?

If the answer is one or as I suspect the first few minutes of the first episode of next season then it makes no sense story wise to not show the resolution this season.
 
How class was that, it was a real emotional rollercoaster of an episode.

I got a question if the therios that are around the net saying that the losties are coming to fight for jacob, what would happen to Julliet as she was not part of the losties.

Long wait now :-(
 
crappycraperson said:
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Yeah, I am the one clutching at straws. I don't know how may series you have watched or if you have any clue about the art of storytelling.

Black smoke moster, french lady, others were all introduced before the hatch in season 1. Next you will be telling me there were major plot points like the hatch. S1 was about establishing the characters and the environment they were in.

All this is futile anyway, it all comes down to one question I asked above.

How man episodes in the next season, will they take to show what happened after the nuke exploded?

If the answer is one or as I suspect the first few minutes of the first episode of next season then it makes no sense story wise to not show the resolution this season.
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the electromagnetism negates the forces of the h bomb and they flash back into the current time and wake up like jack did in the pilot of season 1.
 
crappycraperson said:
:lol:

Yeah, I am the one clutching at straws. I don't know how may series you have watched or if you have any clue about the art of storytelling.

Black smoke moster, french lady, others were all introduced before the hatch in season 1. Next you will be telling me there were major plot points like the hatch. S1 was about establishing the characters and the environment they were in.

All this is futile anyway, it all comes down to one question I asked above.

How man episodes in the next season, will they take to show what happened after the nuke exploded?

If the answer is one or as I suspect the first few minutes of the first episode of next season then it makes no sense story wise to not show the resolution this season.
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because its a cliffhanger ffs, something very big in the "art of storytelling"
 
Its called a cliffhanger ending. Loads of shows do it to keep the viewers interest till the next season starts. Your obviously very frustrated by it.
 
Am not too fussed with the open ending, it keeps you with a lot of intrest untill the next series
 
Great arguments.

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best opening scene in lost for me is season 2 episode 1

now thats a FACHT!
 
Rahul said:
I actually am starting to believe though, that Locke is actually dead. The Smoke Monster or Jacob has taken his form.

They'll find the coffin and find Locke's body will still be in there me reckons. Like Ben says "Dead is Dead", you can't come back from that.
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Posted on April 17th

:D
 
So, when 'Locke' or Smokie took Ben to be judged, how did he know he'd fall through the ground? He had to know they would get separated, which would allow him to transform into Ben's daughter and thus convince Ben to listen to everything 'Locke' says.

Then what was the point of him asking him what he saw, if he already knew?

Should be a great final season though, firstly to finish the story and secondly to tie all the loose strings together.
 
I just watched the two first episodes. Can't believe it has been 5 years since I last saw them. One thing I noticed was that the actor who played the air plane pilot is the same guy who is Parkman in Heroes.



I also noticed this, 2:35 in. :eek:
 
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