Television Lost: Season 5

Me neither.

Kate, Penny and Juliet are another matter though
 
smokey lives in the temple and 'changes' people.

and that wheel in the end was skipping through time every 5 sec or so :eek:

i wonder if the island or should i say our losties have stopped moving through time and if they have then i wonder in which time period they've stopped? I think that they're in the same time period as in the opening scene of the first episode this season.
 
Starting to come together now with certain questions being answered. Definately one of the best episodes of recent times.
 
VidaRed said:
smokey lives in the temple and 'changes' people.

and that wheel in the end was skipping through time every 5 sec or so :eek:

i wonder if the island or should i say our losties have stopped moving through time and if they have then i wonder in which time period they've stopped? I think that they're in the same time period as in the opening scene of the first episode this season.
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I'd agree with this but if they have stopped travelling through time then why does everyone still need to go back?

I think it's pretty evident that while Faraday is infiltrating the Orchid in the scene at the start of the season he bumps into Charlotte as a girl and warns her about her dying, but obviously you can't change anything and she still ends up going there and dies.

Smokey's lair was pretty interesting as well. My guess is it gets around in underground tunnels, it tried to drag Locke into one once as well.
 
Felt for Locke at the end tbh, and thats saying something since he seemed to have become a cnut, taking the whole 'he's special' thing to his head. Was ready for the sacrifice and kept his promise.
 
Because when I posted the first comment, I still had hope they would explain some inconsistencies but now it is beyond the point of no return.
 
They have gone with 'What happened, happened' approach which is advocated by philosophers to eliminate the grandfather paradox. From wiki, it can be defined as following:

"See the Novikov self-consistency principle and Kip S. Thorne for one view on how backwards time travel could be possible without a danger of paradoxes. According to this hypothesis, the only possible timelines are those which are entirely self-consistent, so that anything a time traveler does in the past must have been part of history all along, and the time traveler can never do anything to prevent the trip back in time from being made since this would represent an inconsistency. In laymen's terms, this is often called destiny, and it is sometimes unpopular because it contradicts the "common sense" notion that people choose their own fates."

This basically means everything happens only once, meaning there was no 1988 when the french crew did not encounter Jin. It has always been like this. Same with Locke-Richard, etc.

I am personally not a big fan of the destiny theory, but I don't mind if it is implemented properly, but they botched it up-

1) CFL should have remembered Jin when she first encountered the survivors. Whole of her story does not make sense, but that is a difference issue. Even if you discount her due to her craziness.

2) Ethan should have remembered seeing Locke before, not to mention be amazed by a man disappearing before him.

3) Desmond should have remembered meeting Faraday as well.

It is pretty obvious, they did not have this time thing in mind in previous seasons. Still this season has been pretty good, just that this whole time travel loop holes keep annoying me.
 
Good episode, not as good as the others though. I was hoping to see more of the Frenchies and Smokeys lair (which could be the temple Richard mentioned in S4?)

Two big answers in that ep too, good stuff.
 
RedDevil#26655 said:
Good episode, not as good as the others though. I was hoping to see more of the Frenchies and Smokeys lair (which could be the temple Richard mentioned in S4?)

Two big answers in that ep too, good stuff.
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What were they?
 
RedDevil#26655 said:
Big answers for me were we finaly found out how the guy in the frenhies group lost his arm and that ms hawking is indeed faradays mum
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Hawking being Faradays mum was a given.

When did we hear before this ep that the frenchman lost his arm?
 
niMic said:
There is no such thing as time travel, so I don't really care if doesn't seem "logical" enough. There's no such thing as ghosts either, but there are ghosts in Lost.
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Yes, genius thanks for reminding us. Writers are still expected to keep a consistent storyline.
 
RedDevil#26655 said:
also, how did Rosseau find the radio tower in the end without Jin?
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I assume she still had the "radar"-thingy. I didn't get the impression that Jin was there to help them find the tower as they already had the radar.
 
a character dies and no one even mentions it ?? ;)

i think the O6 are needed back for different reasons other than to stop the island from skipping through time.

locke's journey seems similar to that of christian shepard as he also had to die in order to get the losties on the island.

the only thing that confuses me is why did charlotte tell jin not to allow locke to bring sun back and claire also told kate not to bring aaron back :confused:
 
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