That race was not even shown live in the USA. That's mental.
London 2012 - Track & Field/Athletics
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One is a genius, the other is simply a very fast man.
This can describe Usain Bolt and Yohan Blake.
I don't love either to be honest. Bolt though, he's got the lot...cracking personality and all. Can't see him being bettered in our lifetimes.
They're both amazin at what they do
There was some debate about this in another thread before the start of the Olympics & I didn't quite get it, assuming it was about being in the Paralympics.
I still don't understand how a disabled athlete ends up in an able bodied race. Surely it would make more sense, and be fairer, to run against his peers, so to speak. He was well beaten in his semi-final.
Why is he not in the Paralympics? Didn't he used to run with disabled athletes? What changed?
He is in the Paralympics.
In both then?
I would disagree with such a statement. I love the sport of football more then most things in life... but I find watching Bolt sprint to be truly exhilirating. More so then seeing Messi at his finest...
Yes he's in both.
Fact of the matter is, he made the semis, which is more than about 20 other able-bodied athletes managed. I take my hat off to him - he had to fight a lot of battles to be allowed to compete in the Olympics with those blades, and clearly he has earned the respect of the able-bodied athletes.
I don't think you can really describe a sprinter as a genius
Why not? Surely anyone who is brilliant at their respective sport can be hailed as a genius at it?
Just looked at Usain Blot twitter bio and it reads 'The most naturally gifted athlete the world has ever seen.' This guy is great.Aye, it is odd. I can't see the point in it really, it is a humanitarian thing apparently. Seems like a waste of time to me.
I can't really see how people can describe a man who runs very fast in a straight line as a genius either.
Could you be, say, a genius at arm-wrestling? How about press-ups - if you can do more press-ups than anyone else, are you a press-up genius?
Being the fastest man in the world for me occupies a place somewhere between being the tallest man in the world and being the best footballer, but wherever the line is I think sprinting is too far towards the tallest man side.
I think the idea of genius requires a field that has more to it than sprinting does. I'm not saying there's no technique involved, there clearly is. It's not just like being tall. But it's not like being a great footballer either.
It's a bit of a nebulous concept. There's some good essays about how it applies to scientists, artists and sportsmen, in James Gleick's book, er, 'Genius', about Richard Feynman.
I think if you were a ridiculously good arm wrestler then you could be a genius at it. Anyway, one person being a genius and the other not doesn't make them a better athlete.
Yep, it depends on one's particular definition of genius. And, of course, a universally-accepted definition.
You're not born the fastest man in the world. You have to train hard to fulfil any natural potential you may have, so it's nothing like being the tallest man in the world.
Anyway, "genius" is continually and erroneously applied to physical feats, so neither Messi nor Bolt are geniuses.
Anyway, "genius" is continually and erroneously applied to physical feats, so neither Messi nor Bolt are geniuses.
Then what does it mean to be an athletics genius?
For me, being a genius requires some combination of ridiculous talent, aesthetic beauty, and guile. You can be a chess genius. You can be a boxing genius. You can't be a burger-eating genius.
Some might say that if you have to work on your genius...you're not a genius.
It is a bit like being the tallest man in the world - I didn't say it was just like it. It's somewhere on a continuum between a complex activity like football and a pure inborn attribute (which height isn't either as it happens - you have to get enough nutrition, not live in a small box, etc., to 'fulfil' your height).
Yes you have to train, but lots of people work extremely hard without becoming geniuses in their chosen field.
That's why us geniuses are on the Caf all the time.
I had an argument about rowing and Redgrave not being much cop...suffice to say it pissed a few people off.
There is saying
'genius is 5% inspiration and 95% perspiration'
Isaac Newton worked 18 hours a day and made himself physically ill in the process.
lol Alan Wells saying I was the last white guy to win
This got me to thinking about how awesome it would be to get a world-class sportsman who wasn't merely intelligent, as happens quite often, but an out and out genius.
Football skills are repetition and all, combine them with good physical attributes such as pace and low centre of gravity and you've got a genius.
Aristotle and Plato competed in the games, in wrestling
And apparently Graeme Le Saux reads the Guardian
Best and Messi are geniuses in my book.
Jamaica should enter someone for all the high jump type events (i.e. the high jump) called Usain Volt, and then it turns out just to be Bolt wearing a pair of jumping stilts.
Everyone would love him too much to say or do anything about it.
Everyone would love him too much to say or do anything about it.
Jackson can suck my balls.
Impressive set of times, although 7 under 10 seconds is only one better than the 100m in the 1991 World Championships.
Well you were both wrong - it was 9.63 
So apparently, a member of the Dutch Judo team accosted the bloke who threw the bottle on to the track at the start of the 100m. I bet that ended well.
Arguing about the definition of genius in the other sports forum? feckwits
I'm currently in Jamaica now, and there was a party going on during the race. They showed it live, and when Bolt and Blake took it... compete pandemonium... in therain too. Never seen anything like it.
Ok i'm out.
I'm currently in Jamaica now, and there was a party going on during the race. They showed it live, and when Bolt and Blake took it... compete pandemonium... in therain too. Never seen anything like it.
Ok i'm out.
He starts well in Beijing and showboats over the finnish line...He starts badly in London and breaks the Olympic record...Imagine what he could do if he gave a feck. Man's ridiculous.
He may showboat a lot, but this is a demonstration of sportsmanship and respect that is impressive. Maybe I have low expectations from a lot of American athletes, but I wouldn't expect most of them to be as respectful.
Clearly more respectful than that bastard dog.
Clearly more respectful than that bastard dog.
The mercury didn't help.
I was at Brixton Splash...Which was basically just like Jamaica...If it was in Brixton.