London 2012 Olympic Competition

I think it's great for him. He has to see this as a stepping stone to winning GS' now. Signs are good for his fans.

It can also go badly wrong. Got to remember that slams are best of 5's, in the Olympics he beat Djokovic in a best of 3. It's not the same thing, to beat both djokovic, Federer or nadal in best of 5 following each other will be a lot harder.

Typical British hype. Need to calm down for Tennis.
 
Commentators shouldn't be "rooting".



Yep. But he would probably have lost anyway. He was very "dheela" today. And Murray was better than he usually is.

I think it was similar to Wimbledon final. Murray ought to have closed out second set in that one, could not and after that there was only going to be one winner. Here he somehow saved that break, I would have backed Fed to win it if he had won that game at the start of second set.
 
It can also go badly wrong. Got to remember that slams are best of 5's, in the Olympics he beat Djokovic in a best of 3. It's not the same thing, to beat both djokovic, Federer or nadal in best of 5 following each other will be a lot harder.

Typical British hype. Need to calm down for Tennis.

Let him have his moment. He just beat Federer (in a best of 5 match) after the disappointment of the Wimbledon final.

The atmosphere at the moment won't ever be replicated again, I think putting up with a bit of hyperbole is relatively harmless given what an uplift this games is giving to so many people.
 
This may not be the best time to bring it up but should sports like tennis and football really be at the Olympics? I feel like the Olympics should only contain sports where the Olympic competition would be considered the pinnacle of the sport.
 
It can also go badly wrong. Got to remember that slams are best of 5's, in the Olympics he beat Djokovic in a best of 3. It's not the same thing, to beat both djokovic, Federer or nadal in best of 5 following each other will be a lot harder.

Typical British hype. Need to calm down for Tennis.

He has been great. Stop trying to belittle his achievement.
 
It can also go badly wrong. Got to remember that slams are best of 5's, in the Olympics he beat Djokovic in a best of 3. It's not the same thing, to beat both djokovic, Federer or nadal in best of 5 following each other will be a lot harder.

Typical British hype. Need to calm down for Tennis.

That is true, but what this does show is that he can handle players like Federer in 5 sets. There's nothing wrong with us getting excited at the biggest win in his career.
 
This may not be the best time to bring it up but should sports like tennis and football really be at the Olympics? I feel like the Olympics should only contain sports where the Olympic competition would be considered the pinnacle of the sport.
We've been through it and come out the other side. Right now that looks like a grand slam.
 
This may not be the best time to bring it up but should sports like tennis and football really be at the Olympics? I feel like the Olympics should only contain sports where the Olympic competition would be considered the pinnacle of the sport.

Football is more debatable when it's not even first team squads, but tennis has a place at the Olympics. If they actually give it more significance, then it'll mean even more. To see Del Potro so ecstatic when he only got bronze shows they care.
 
Touch of class from Federer admitting Murray was the better player today and was just too much to deal with.

True. There have been one or two occasions where he hasn't always been the best of losers, but today he handled it very well.
 
Good weekend for the brits. Roger was poor but still you have to give credit to murray.
US open isn't far, we will see how he does there.
 
Good weekend for the brits. Roger was poor but still you have to give credit to murray.
US open isn't far, we will see how he does there.

The US Open is heating up nicely. Djokovic will be favourite and Federer will be there too but Murray looks good and Del Potro is emerging as a darkhorse as well.
 
This may not be the best time to bring it up but should sports like tennis and football really be at the Olympics? I feel like the Olympics should only contain sports where the Olympic competition would be considered the pinnacle of the sport.

Football has been in the olympics for a long time and it was only all the fuss this time about having a GB team in that has distracted a bit from the event. As to Tennis being added part of the olympics is adding new events as the sporting world changes, as some of the womens cycling golds came in newly added events to the olympics.
 
We've been through it and come out the other side. Right now that looks like a grand slam.

The key words there are right now. For example, Fed isn't going to ever win an individual Olympic gold medal but that isn't going to stop him from being regarded as the greatest ever. However, had he never won the French Open, it would have seriously dented his hopes of being considered the best.

I'm not trying to belittle Murray's win. In fact, I think that for Murray this victory is bigger than a Wimbledon victory since it is his home Olympics.

The fact is though that in general an Olympic gold medal is probably considered less than a grand slam. Based on this, I feel like the Olympic event is devalued.
 
He has been great. Stop trying to belittle his achievement.

No one is belittling his achievement. He did brilliantly to win the Gold, and played a superb match. He's done something many many people have not been able to do (including federer and djokovic and win a Single Golds).

I'm commentating on exaggerating his achievements in relation to his Tennis in general. You have to remember that Tennis is all about Grand-Slams, it's different physically and psychologically. We shouldn't jump on the hype bandwagon. Much to do for Murray yet.
 
It can also go badly wrong. Got to remember that slams are best of 5's, in the Olympics he beat Djokovic in a best of 3. It's not the same thing, to beat both djokovic, Federer or nadal in best of 5 following each other will be a lot harder.

Typical British hype. Need to calm down for Tennis.

Oh bugger off
 
The US Open is heating up nicely. Djokovic will be favourite and Federer will be there too but Murray looks good and Del Potro is emerging as a darkhorse as well.

Don't think he will be favorite tbh, I think he has been poor compared to last season.
But then I don't know who will be the favorite considering nadal will be returning from an injury. Murray has got a nice chance tbh.
 
The key words there are right now. For example, Fed isn't going to ever win an individual Olympic gold medal but that isn't going to stop him from being regarded as the greatest ever. However, had he never won the French Open, it would have seriously dented his hopes of being considered the best.

I'm not trying to belittle Murray's win. In fact, I think that for Murray this victory is bigger than a Wimbledon victory since it is his home Olympics.

The fact is though that in general an Olympic gold medal is probably considered less than a grand slam. Based on this, I feel like the Olympic event is devalued.

I don't agree. I think that if he was on 16 slams and hadn't won the French most would consider him to be the greatest. I know I would.
 
I think it was similar to Wimbledon final. Murray ought to have closed out second set in that one, could not and after that there was only going to be one winner. Here he somehow saved that break, I would have backed Fed to win it if he had won that game at the start of second set.

Nah, Federer was in much better form at Wimbledon. He raised himself in the second and as basically brilliant from half way through the second set. Here he was poor throughout. There aren't many similarities.

It can also go badly wrong. Got to remember that slams are best of 5's, in the Olympics he beat Djokovic in a best of 3. It's not the same thing, to beat both djokovic, Federer or nadal in best of 5 following each other will be a lot harder.

Typical British hype. Need to calm down for Tennis.

It depends on how much importance is given to it I guess. If it's treated as though he's achieved greatness in tennis then it is truly flawed. That won't happen until your name is amongst winners of GS'. But if he has won a gold and a final against Federer, so it could pave the way for better chances at GS wins.
 
Nah, Federer was in much better form at Wimbledon. He raised himself in the second and as basically brilliant from half way through the second set. Here he was poor throughout. There aren't many similarities.



It depends on how much importance is given to it I guess. If it's treated as though he's achieved greatness in tennis then it is truly flawed. That won't happen until your name is amongst winners of GS'. But if he has won a gold and a final against Federer, so it could pave the way for better chances at GS wins.

He's learning to play aggressive. Which is what is needed to beat the top 3. That's a big positive for Murray. He just needs to learn how to use it and sustain it against different types of players and surfaces.

Still think he will get a slam, can't say which one though, or when...
 
He's learning to play aggressive. Which is what is needed to beat the top 3. That's a big positive for Murray. He just needs to learn how to use it and sustain it against different types of players and surfaces.

Still think he will get a slam, can't say which one though, or when...

Yeah I think he will too. I've always said he needs to be more agressive. But I'm having hard time predicting whether he will be able to win a GS in the immediate future because Federer was as bad as Murray was great.
 
Just watching a bit of the sailing. Just don't get it. A load of men messing about in boats. It just looks completely chaotic. Glad Ben got his gold, just not sure how.
 
Not gold medals

Hungary has a population of 9.8 million, the UK has 62 million.

Hungary has 3 golds (after a hugely disappointing first half of the olympics so far), so that would equal 19 golds so far if Hungary had the same number of people as you do.

That is, if this was a meaningful statistic. But it isnt, Hungary is by far the best in this in the history of the games, but it still is not.
 
That is why he had equal points score with Smith? :wenger:

Smith had a stronger programme and had worse execution than Berki, according to judges.

But even that lower execution point was too high, the judges gave him better points than what he deserved. I'm not an expert, but my former olympian gymnast mate is.

It doesnt matter though, as Berki has won anyway.
 
Hungary has a population of 9.8 million, the UK has 62 million.

Hungary has 3 golds (after a hugely disappointing first half of the olympics so far), so that would equal 19 golds so far if Hungary had the same number of people as you do.

We need to get the media to pick up on how much of a fantastic campaign the Hungarians are having with their 6 medal haul.

Breathtaking
 
Smith had a stronger programme and had worse execution than Berki, according to judges.

But even that lower execution point was too high, the judges gave him better points than what he deserved. I'm not an expert, but my former olympian gymnast mate is.

It doesnt matter though, as Berki has won anyway.

Perhaps your mate should be an olympic judge then seeing as they are doing such a poor job of things?