Livestream out of Syria

Don't know the context of this post but it's forum gold right there.

Just need someone to finish this with a Hitler reference now and we can all go to bed.

To put it into context... I know these people through my church in the DC area. Not everyone that works for the government is a stormtrooper

stormtrooper%20babe.jpg

*Sorry, could figure out how to work Hitler into this conversation. Please see the Occupy Wall Street thread. I was more successful with the Hitler reference over there
 
To put it into context... I know these people through my church in the DC area. Not everyone that works for the government is a stormtrooper

stormtrooper%20babe.jpg

*Sorry, could figure out how to work Hitler into this conversation. Please see the Occupy Wall Street thread. I was more successful with the Hitler reference over there

Definitely occupy-able.
 
Why should I worry about explaining the plain simple facts?

I have close friendships with people in the DOJ, NSA, and the State Dept., not to mention all the media contacts ~ If anything were to ever happen to me, there would be a high price to pay.

I'm worried about you Bob. Come back to us.
 
Interesting reports of the Blackwater murderers crossing the border into Syria where they've been training the rebels. Surely the US's involvement there constitutes a UN violation? Regardless, its nice to see how their side is respecting the ceasefire.

 
Ok so I'm currently in Syria, Damascus, I'll post updates in this thread or the live stream out of Syria thread if the mods will unlock it, anyway today I will be in Barzeh I was there last week in the protest, and I'll post updates about the area when I come back and hopefully the video's will be out and I could post them with the updates, just to make things clear its very hard for us in Syria to get to squares and have a sit-in because of the gunfire of the security forces I have many friends from Homs, Hama, Idlib, Lattakia, and other cities and I get my updates from what they see, I'll start updating more regularly starting next Wednesday as I'm busy this week with my exams.
 
This is Barzeh today:

though in the night it's different, the army goes out as they are scared of the Free Syrian Army there, the people get to the place they have there night protests and then start singing and chanting for an hour and half, then they go back home so the Free Syrian Army can make sure the army don't get in there in the night.
 
Ok so I'm currently in Syria, Damascus, I'll post updates in this thread or the live stream out of Syria thread if the mods will unlock it, anyway today I will be in Barzeh I was there last week in the protest, and I'll post updates about the area when I come back and hopefully the video's will be out and I could post them with the updates, just to make things clear its very hard for us in Syria to get to squares and have a sit-in because of the gunfire of the security forces I have many friends from Homs, Hama, Idlib, Lattakia, and other cities and I get my updates from what they see, I'll start updating more regularly starting next Wednesday as I'm busy this week with my exams.

What happened to your friend Danny ? Is he in Lebanon now ?
 
I clicked on this thread today as I was going to ask if any of the mods could tell me if they had seen any new posts from Syrian Scholes down in the newbies. Good to see you up in the mains SS, and good to see you are doing ok.
 
Aleppo university, 4 students were murdered inside there dorms by security forces, Aleppo university is known for being the university most tied to the revolution, they protest every day and every night.
 
Are you ok with the rebels using suicide bombings as a tactic?

I've never heard of suicide bombing in the area! Homs the city with most rebels, also Idlib... They never had suicide bombers, why just in Damascus? they accuse suicide bombers while all the bombs are sound bombs, they have no effects at all, and am not sure the rebels can get inside Damascus actually!
 
Is Assad systematically allowing security forces to murder civilians? What do you think would happen inside Syria if he were to give up his power and leave the country?

I think things will get worse then worse then worse, then after 3-5 years we will finally build Syria that we really want, people thinks protests in Syria are small, well that's wrong, on Fridays more than 800 protests some of them are very large, some of them are small, they all ask for Bashar to go out, they say that minorities didn't participate at all, wrong, although their participation is small, they did participate, I actually know a Durzi girl that I go with to Barzeh for the protests there.
 
And yes, Assad is the reason after all the killing, 14000 dead until now, do you think the president of the country doesn't know?
 
Peaceful syrian "rebels" fighting for democracy and human rights

 
Quoted from telegraphindia.com.

For Whose Benefit? The Syrian Crisis Looks Unsolvable
by Krishnan Srinivasan

Anti-government protests in Syria began in March 2011, spiraled out of control of the authorities and erupted into a challenge, mainly in Sunni-dominated areas, to forty years of leadership by the Assad Alawaite family. The government revoked the emergency, promised political dialogue and constitutional reform with multi-party elections, offered amnesties and released thousands of detainees, but the opposition rejects any compromise. The opposition comprises the exile-led Syrian National Council dominated by Sunnis and Muslim Brothers, the National Coordination Committee within Syria who are wary of Islamists, the UK-based Observatory for Human Rights, and army deserters comprising the Free Syrian Army based in Turkey. Syria has 21 million people and a Sunni majority, but with a 20% Alawite and Christian minority that supports President Basharal-Assad’s secularism. In November 2011, the Arab League, prompted by Saudi Arabia and Qatar, suspended Syria, imposed economic sanctions and organized an observer mission that was later withdrawn. In January, the League called on Assad to cede power to a deputy, hold a dialogue with the opposition and elections under a government of national unity. Meanwhile, the government blames armed gangs and terrorists for the violence that its army attempts to crush, incurring 2000 casualties in the process. Each side blames the other for excesses and atrocities.

The United Nations has stopped estimating the casualties after the number reached5000, and has struggled to get to grips with this crisis, because from the outset the Security Council has been split. The first attempt to move are solution at the UNSC was last October, after the fall of Libya’s Gaddafi, but a draft was vetoed by China and Russia with India, South Africa, Brazil and Lebanon abstaining. The BRICs stood together and Indian journalists reported that never had India been so popular in Syria, a country that has caused India no harm throughout its history.

With horrific images and emotional statements from the Free Syrian Army and the Syrian National Council filling television screens, the UNSC’s second attempt came this month, giving rise to strong language. USA’s Clinton called the vote a ‘travesty’ and Britain’s Hague a ‘betrayal’, while Russia’s Lavrov described the West’s reaction as ‘indecent’ and ‘hysterical’. The draft resolution noted the Arab League’s efforts but did not endorse Assad stepping down, and denied it was the intention to intervene under the mandatory clauses of the UN Charter. But it did call for dialogue under the League’s auspices, demanded access and investigation by League monitors, and cooperation with the UN Office for Human Rights and the Human Rights Council, all of which had previously condemned the Assad government. Therefore the resolution was supportive of the opposition and not even-handed. Predictably, there was another double veto from China and Russia, while the other members, including India and South Africa, voted in favor. Brazil had left the Council, and BRIC solidarity had broken. Another Indian abstention would have been lauded by our media as reflecting India’s traditional approach, but the affirmative vote was received in surprised silence. Because voting at the UN is rarely based solely on the merits of a situation, the underlying objectives need examination.

The overall context is that both Beijing and Moscow feel under pressure from the USA; China fears increased American military presence in Southeast Asia and Russia a US missile-defense system in Eastern Europe. Though it stalled UN action against allies like Myanmar, North Korea and Sudan, China has never vetoed any resolution on its own, but always in the company of Russia. This is why the West’s ire has been directed exclusively at Moscow. Beijing said the draft ‘sought regime change that did not reflect the heart-rending state of affairs in that country’, and could send a message to Assad’s armed opponents that they had international support. It cited the Libyan precedent, where Gaddafi’s overthrow had not brought stability to Libyans, but pushed that country towards civil war.

Russia derives prestige and foreign influence through maintaining a distinction between internal and international affairs, and rejects any pro-active norm-enforcing UNSC. It remembers the ‘constructive interpretation’ of resolutions by the West over Yugoslavia, Kosovo, Iraq and Libya that led to interventions of highly doubtful legality. It had abstained on Libya in March2011, and was determined not to repeat that error. Russia is cautious about the outcomes of the Arab spring and unhappy at the rise of Islamists and Salafists in Tunisia and Egypt. It has its last remaining Mediterranean naval base in Tartus, and is the main supplier to Syria of military material. It assesses that Assad cannot be toppled from within. Striving for a central position, foreign minister Lavrov said ‘we are not a friend; we are not an ally of President Assad. We never said Assad remaining in power is the solution to the crisis…I do not think Russian policy is about asking people to step down. Regime change is not our profession. It is up to the Syrians themselves to decide how to run the country, how to introduce reforms, what kind of reforms, without any outside interference.’ This stand has enabled Russia to be the only country working to find a solution on the ground, and one million Syrians are said to have turned out to welcome Lavrov on arrival recently. Moscow would want whatever new Syria emerges to maintain close ties with Russia, but may find that its attempts to manage developments are as fruitless as those of the West and the Arab League.

The West seeks regime change in an unfriendly country. It will not allow Moscow to drive the process because it is determined that Assad must go. It will frustrate any Russian plan to bring the parties to a dialogue. Its objective is to separate Syria from Iran, the latter being the main enemy with Syria as its major ally. Deposing Assad would lead, in this thinking, to the bonus of weakening Hezbollah and Hamas as well. The UNSC resolution having aborted, there will be tremendous increment in clandestine and special forces’ operations, especially through Turkey, in support of the insurgents. Turkey is pro-West and its Arab policy a dismal failure when it tried to influence events in the Arab spring. It was left an outsider, like Iran, and wants to recover lost ground. The Gulf sheikhs fear a ‘Shia belt’ from the Gulf to the Mediterranean, and have repeatedly urged US action against Shias in Iraq, Iran and now Syria. They will countenance strikes even by Israel to achieve this.

Of course, there are double standards galore. The US has used the veto fifty times since 1945 to protect Israel and deny the Palestinians their rights, turning a blind eye to Israeli massacres in the occupied territories. There was no call for UN action in Yemen or Bahrain, where large numbers of people were killed, because Yemen is an ally in the ‘war on terror’ and Bahrain is home to a major US military base. France’s president Sarkozy asserts that ‘France will not abandon the Syrian people’; bitter irony from the former mandatory power in Syria. The co-sponsors of the UNSC draft included Morocco, Colombia, Togo, Libya, Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE and Oman, whose record of democracy, inclusive politics and tolerance of criticism cannot bear any scrutiny.

As for Israel, it remains silent, content to be out of the limelight for a change. It will not gain from Assad’s fall; there will be instability and Islamists might triumph. In general terms, the Arab spring has been to Israel’s disadvantage, but any weakening of Iran suits its agenda.

In Syria itself, Damascus and Aleppo and the principal units of the army are with Assad. So are Iran and Iraq and Shia Lebanon. Public support is also solid, but hard to quantify. All states, including the permanent members of the UNSC, have used excessive force against their own citizens at times, and given the reports that foreign elements are within Syria acting as ‘advisers’ to the armed opposition which is financed from Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Assad can hardly do otherwise than respond with force. He has made many conciliatory offers; the opposition has made none. But even if Assad survives, it is hard to envisage what kind of future Syria he will preside over. The alternative is equally bleak; the opposition is a mixed bag of terrorists, Muslim Brothers, army deserters, secular activists and Sunnis, but Islamists are most likely to emerge on top as they have in Tunisia and Egypt. It will be a fertile soil for al-Qaeda.

The Indian ‘explanation of vote’, which is a facility given to every UNSC member, was opaque about India’s real intentions. Perhaps New Delhi assesses that Assad’s fall is imminent and there was need to curry favor with the opposition. Possibly India, knowing the resolution was going to be defeated, considered it had little to lose by a ‘yes’ vote and much to gain from the USA – our current obsession with permanent membership – and the oil-producing Arab states. Conspiracy theorists might bring in the Sunni vote in the UP elections, though this stretches the imagination.

Cicero suggested that one test be applied before any action is undertaken, cui bono? Who benefits? In the case of the UN tractions on Syria, the answer is obvious – nobody.

15-Feb-2012
 
Few more articles, thought provoking if nothing else.


INFORMATION WAR

- The Arabic media are furthering their own agenda in Syria

DIPLOMACY: K.P. Nayar

Just about a week in Syria can be an eye-opening experience. For the first time since I became a journalist 40 years ago, I was embarrassed to identify myself as belonging to the media before those who are outside the Fourth Estate.

One day during my stay in Damascus two weeks ago, I watched Al Jazeera announce the “breaking news” of demonstrations against the Syrian government in Duma on the outskirts of the capital. I jumped into a taxi and persuaded the reluctant driver, who had also heard on Al Jazeera about trouble in Duma, to take me there.

To my initial puzzlement and subsequent revulsion, I found that Duma was as peaceful and bustling as Calcutta’s Park Street on a normal day, its residents going about their business as usual. To be sure, I asked around, but no one knew anything about any protests in their midst that day although many had heard about it on Al Jazeera. There had been demonstrations against the government in Duma, but the last time its residents protested was almost two months ago, in the third week of January, according to residents there.

Journalists are human. They make mistakes. So I gave the benefit of doubt to the Doha-based television channel, which was hailed as a refreshing new start in the global media when it was first launched. Among the scores of journalists from Turkey, Egypt, Jordan, India and other non-Western news outlets who were in Syria at the same time that I was visiting, there were many who had hailed Al Jazeera on its dawn as a welcome alternative to the American and European media which now dominate international news coverage.

During the remainder of my stay in Syria, I realized that this was not a case of inadvertent misreporting. And Al Jazeera is not alone in making up news instead of reporting news. A new crop of Arabic news outlets, claiming to be free, have become active players in the Arab Spring as much as rebel movements and governments in West Asia, the latter with their specific agendas that are actually in collision with the spirit of a new democratic upsurge in the region.

Combined with an information revolution brought on by YouTube, Facebook and the rest of the social media, a wholly new style of news management is rewriting the rules and long-accepted crisis communication techniques in diplomacy in countries such as Syria.

I sympathized with a European diplomat in Damascus who confessed to having seriously bungled on account of these changes and learned a lesson that he will not easily forget for the rest of his career. This diplomat recently sent a cable to his headquarters in good faith that the Opposition “Free Syrian Army” had destroyed a two-storey building that housed an important defence establishment, a significant advance for the so-far motley crew of rebels.

The matter would have rested there. But a few days after the telegram was sent, another diplomat from the same embassy passed by the building that was supposed to have been destroyed and reported to his colleague what he saw. The building was still standing and intact. There was confusion and consternation at the embassy until a Syrian employee solved the mystery for her European bosses.

It is normal for diplomats to rely heavily on their local employees, especially when there is a dangerous environment in the host country. No doubt, the buck, in such cases, stops with the ambassador or his deputy chief of mission, who has cleared such reporting for transmission home. Many embassies around the world have local employees who are so reliable that they are sometimes more valuable for a country than the head of mission. In this case, the local employee confessed that she had only heard about the destruction of the defence building on Al Jazeera: she had not gone to the site to check the report for its veracity.

Even in the best of times, reliable and verifiable information has been hard to come by in countries such as Hafez al-Assad’s Syria, Muammar Gaddafi’s Libya or Saddam Hussein’s Iraq. One year into the uprising against Bashar al-Assad, diplomats in Damascus have now got into the habit of recording newscasts and watching them over and over again to determine their authenticity like detectives going through potential evidence with a magnifying glass or a microscope.

Another European diplomat from a country that is solidly standing by President Assad had a bizarre experience. He was watching disturbingly violent and graphic images from Syria on an Arabic news channel. One clipping showed a burning building in Homs, which had already become the epicentre of the fight between the Syrian government and the rebels. Accompanying these images was the voice of a young girl who was wailing that her house had been set on fire by Assad’s thugs.

This diplomat happened to know the country much better than most of his European contemporaries and, as is the norm now in Damascus, he was recording this news footage. He played it again and again later only to realize that the burning property in question in Homs was actually the ruling Ba’ath Party‘s headquarters there, a building he knew well.

It was nobody’s home as the newscast alleged. Moreover, it was beyond comprehension why the Syrian government would firebomb the ruling party’s provincial headquarters. It is reasonable to assume that the building was set ablaze by the Opposition and then filmed for use as suitable propaganda.

It is not my argument that everything that one sees on television about Syria is concocted. A reasonable estimate is that about a third of the country has slipped out of the government’s control. A survey by the Qatar Foundation, which is not sympathetic to Assad, concluded in December that 55 per cent of the Syrians supported the president.

Syria has become a laboratory for experimenting with the power of the new media in changing the world order. The experiment began with the “colour revolutions” elsewhere in the last decade, but the results have been mixed. Attempts at permanent regime change failed after the initial success of the “Orange Revolution” in Ukraine and the “Tulip Revolution” in Kyrgyzstan, much to the disappointment of those who promoted these revolutions from abroad.

Typical of this experiment is what one diplomat in Damascus showed me. These television images which he recorded show fire in buildings, but strangely enough, these buildings withstand the huge flames and smoke unlike the World Trade Centre in New York which collapsed after becoming a fireball on September 11, 2001.

In Syria, as recorded images from Arabic news channels convinced me, one trick to get the upper hand in an information war using the new media has been to place big truck tyres on top of buildings, douse them liberally with gasoline and then set the tyres on fire. With a sleight of hand in filming the fire, it is possible to make it appear that the entire property is ablaze.

In reality, however, the buildings are intact and are being used like a traditional film set. Yet when such clips are posted on social media websites, they acquire a kind of credibility that was once associated with genuine news pictures from a war or a disaster, natural or otherwise.

I put it to Syria’s minister for information, Adnan Mahmoud, that it is inevitable that any vacuum in information will be filled by whatever purports to be news and that such tricks using the new media have gained credibility only because Damascus has not allowed unrestricted or independent reporting by the Western media. It is not the Arabic media alone. The Opposition has cleverly used the social media and fed news outlets with disinformation that has left the Assad government far behind in this new type of smart media war.

I was left with the impression that the minister was not oblivious to this, but the problem with governments such as the one in Damascus is that even ministers can be helpless. Real power resides elsewhere and claims to know best.

I spent an hour with Ahmad Badr al-Din Hassoun, the Grand Mufti of Syria. For seven years now, he is the top religious leader of Sunnis, who make up the majority in the country. It was disturbing, to put it mildly, to hear him bring up Kashmir at least six times during our conversation.

India ought to wisen up to the threat that the success of the current media experiment in Syria could pose for its own multi-religious, multi-ethnic, pluralistic society. When the problems in Palestine and the rest of the Muslim ummah are eventually resolved, the new crop of pretenders to freedom of information in the Arabic media could one day target India to further the agenda of some Arab states by rewriting the rules of news reporting and diplomacy as we have understood them for a long time.

As of now, India is ill-equipped to face such a threat to its very existence. The earlier the country wakes up to this danger, the better it will be for all Indians.
 
The last one, sorry about the multiple posts - word limit.

I do not know the ground reality so cannot objectively take a stance here, but these articles give some food for thought, hence posting.

All are from telegraphindia.com, the first article is written by K. Srinivasan, a former head of the Indian Foreign Office. The next two articles are written by K.P. Nayar, Diplomatic Editor & Correspondent for the Americas, for the telegraph.

At stake, a Damascus bond
- Why fate of uprising will have a bearing on many Indians


K.P. NAYAR IN DAMASCUS

Much more is at stake for the people of India than for their government in New Delhi in the current uprising against Syria’s Arab Socialist Ba’ath Party and the country’s President, Bashar al Assad.

If Assad is overwhelmed by the ongoing rebellion against him, it may be the end of multiple strands of centuries-long people-to-people contacts between Syria and India, going by the experience of the Arab Spring in Egypt or the American-imposed “liberation” of Iraq from the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein.

Damascus is to a large chunk of Christians in Kerala what the Vatican is to Catholics all over the world: this chunk of Malayali Christians owe their allegiance to the Orthodox Church of Antioch, which traces its origins to apostles Saint Peter and Saint Paul.

They use Syriac as their language of liturgy. Syriac is to Syrians what Sanskrit is to Indians or Latin to Italians. One branch of this Church’s followers in Kerala, who returned to the Vatican’s embrace at one turn in the evolution of Christianity in Kerala, also uses Syriac for their religious service and is, therefore, formally acknowledged as a minority within the Catholic church by the Pope.

The patriarch of the Orthodox church once sat in Antioch, now in Turkey, but has been in Damascus since the 15th century when the rise of the Ottoman empire forced the church to move his Holy See.

Ignatius IV, the 92 year-old patriarch of Syria’s Orthodox Church of Antioch, recalled to this correspondent in a long meeting here his visit to Calcutta many years ago for an assembly of The World Council of Churches. He is successor to Saint Peter, who was the first bishop of Antioch.

At the Calcutta meeting, Ignatius IV, whose formal title is Patriarche d’Antioche et de tout ’orient, was elected president of the Council, a fellowship of nearly 350 churches in 110 countries and claiming to represent 560 million Christians worldwide.

Christians here belong to four different churches, but the one headed by Ignatius IV has an active following of 1 million people in Syria, 400,000 in Lebanon and a sizeable flock in Turkey. Ignatius IV is unsure of his precise following in Kerala, where repeated splits have divided loyalties more on account of local community politics than by reasons of theology.

An aura of authority flowing from the patriarch’s advanced age and his long experience in spirituality have worked as a calming influence on Syria’s Christians, who make up between 10 and 12 per cent of the country’s population. In numbers, they equal another minority, the Alawites who control the government and count Assad as one of them.

In the privacy of his church, Ignatius IV lets his guard down and is fearful for his flock. Egypt’s Coptic Christians have lost many followers of their minority community to sectarian violence in that country after the Arab Spring saw longtime President Hosni Mubarak step down from office. In Iraq, murderous attacks on church services of minority Christians have routinely claimed lives since the George W. Bush-led invasion in 2003 overthrew Saddam Hussein’s secular regime in Baghdad.

With such straight talk from the patriarch, it is perhaps not surprising that his Holy See is on this city’s Straight Street, which oozes history. This street figures in the New Testament in connection with Saint Paul’s conversion to Christianity. It is believed in Christian tradition that Judas lived in its neighbourhood.

But the history of Straight Street is not confined to Biblical times. Bang opposite the patriarchate is the Roman gate of the Sun, one of several imposing gates into Damascus whose central arch is a reminder of what this city has always represented at the crossroads of history.

Ignatius IV frankly admitted that Syria’s Christians are worked up over a Constitution that has just been adopted in a nation-wide referendum: under Article 3 of the new statute, it is mandatory that the country’s head of state must be a Muslim.

At the spacious compound here, which is the seat of the patriarch, several followers of Ignatius IV said they have been let down by this Article in the new Constitution which excludes them from seeking the presidency of the country where they were born and brought up.

The new Constitution was approved in a referendum last weekend and immediately signed into statute by Assad. Many Christians said the new law is an attempt to put the clock back. In 1973, the current President’s father and predecessor, Hafez al Assad, dropped all references to Islam as the state religion in a draft Constitution he unveiled.

“If this is what happens when the Opposition is nowhere near gaining power, we fear for what will happen if they ever unseat the present government. We have no doubt that we will be persecuted by a regime that comes to power by overthrowing President Assad,” a worshipper said.

The patriarch, typically, is more hurt than angry about the statutory exclusion of his flock from the highest office in Syria. “We were on this land 700 years before the Muslims arrived,” Ignatius IV emphasised. “We are the original inhabitants of this land.” He was speaking about the time when what is now Syria, Turkey and several of their neighbours all belonged to the Byzantine empire.

After 11 months of the current uprising against Assad’s government, neither Ignatius IV nor, for that matter, anyone else in Syria knows what the future holds for the country. But the patriarch says for certain that “this is not Egypt, this will not be another Lebanon”, an allusion to Lebanon’s fratricidal civil war in the 1970s which saw the country, whose capital was once referred to as “Paris of the East”, reduced to rubble.

Is that bravado? Is that pious hope? “No,” says the patriarch. “I lived in Lebanon for 27 years,” a reference to the time when he founded the University of Balamand and served as its dean. “We have 12 churches in Syria and we are building four more. We run three secondary schools and operate hospitals which are open not just for Christians, but for everybody. We live in peace with Shias, Sunnis, Alawites, Kurds, everyone. We go to their festivals and they come to ours.”

Those engaged in crafting Assad’s strategy against the Opposition said the President was persuaded not to drop the controversial Article 3 as a concession to hardline Islamists. They spoke on condition of anonymity in order to be frank about the thinking in the President’s inner circle and said: “On how many fronts can the President battle at once? He hoped that by reserving the top job for a Muslim, he could wean some Muslims away from the Opposition.”

The new Constitution prohibits the President from having a foreign wife and presidential candidates should have lived in Syria continuously for 10 years. The latter provision is ostensibly meant to prevent Syrian exiles from Europe and the US from seeking the highest office if Assad has to make way for a successor from the Opposition.

The former provision is somewhat puzzling. Although Assad’s wife, Asma, is an ethnic Syrian and a citizen of her country, she is widely believed to have dual British nationality, having been born, brought up and educated at King’s College in London.

She, the daughter of a Harley Street cardiologist, and her husband met when Assad was studying in the UK to be an ophthalmologist. The two married only after Assad became President in 2000. Last year, Vogue carried an article on Asma Assad, cheekily titled “Desert Rose”. The piece has now been deleted from the magazine’s website.
 
Few more articles, thought provoking if nothing else.


INFORMATION WAR

- The Arabic media are furthering their own agenda in Syria

DIPLOMACY: K.P. Nayar

Just about a week in Syria can be an eye-opening experience. For the first time since I became a journalist 40 years ago, I was embarrassed to identify myself as belonging to the media before those who are outside the Fourth Estate.

One day during my stay in Damascus two weeks ago, I watched Al Jazeera announce the “breaking news” of demonstrations against the Syrian government in Duma on the outskirts of the capital. I jumped into a taxi and persuaded the reluctant driver, who had also heard on Al Jazeera about trouble in Duma, to take me there.

To my initial puzzlement and subsequent revulsion, I found that Duma was as peaceful and bustling as Calcutta’s Park Street on a normal day, its residents going about their business as usual. To be sure, I asked around, but no one knew anything about any protests in their midst that day although many had heard about it on Al Jazeera. There had been demonstrations against the government in Duma, but the last time its residents protested was almost two months ago, in the third week of January, according to residents there.

Journalists are human. They make mistakes. So I gave the benefit of doubt to the Doha-based television channel, which was hailed as a refreshing new start in the global media when it was first launched. Among the scores of journalists from Turkey, Egypt, Jordan, India and other non-Western news outlets who were in Syria at the same time that I was visiting, there were many who had hailed Al Jazeera on its dawn as a welcome alternative to the American and European media which now dominate international news coverage.

During the remainder of my stay in Syria, I realized that this was not a case of inadvertent misreporting. And Al Jazeera is not alone in making up news instead of reporting news. A new crop of Arabic news outlets, claiming to be free, have become active players in the Arab Spring as much as rebel movements and governments in West Asia, the latter with their specific agendas that are actually in collision with the spirit of a new democratic upsurge in the region.

Combined with an information revolution brought on by YouTube, Facebook and the rest of the social media, a wholly new style of news management is rewriting the rules and long-accepted crisis communication techniques in diplomacy in countries such as Syria.

I sympathized with a European diplomat in Damascus who confessed to having seriously bungled on account of these changes and learned a lesson that he will not easily forget for the rest of his career. This diplomat recently sent a cable to his headquarters in good faith that the Opposition “Free Syrian Army” had destroyed a two-storey building that housed an important defence establishment, a significant advance for the so-far motley crew of rebels.

The matter would have rested there. But a few days after the telegram was sent, another diplomat from the same embassy passed by the building that was supposed to have been destroyed and reported to his colleague what he saw. The building was still standing and intact. There was confusion and consternation at the embassy until a Syrian employee solved the mystery for her European bosses.

It is normal for diplomats to rely heavily on their local employees, especially when there is a dangerous environment in the host country. No doubt, the buck, in such cases, stops with the ambassador or his deputy chief of mission, who has cleared such reporting for transmission home. Many embassies around the world have local employees who are so reliable that they are sometimes more valuable for a country than the head of mission. In this case, the local employee confessed that she had only heard about the destruction of the defence building on Al Jazeera: she had not gone to the site to check the report for its veracity.

Even in the best of times, reliable and verifiable information has been hard to come by in countries such as Hafez al-Assad’s Syria, Muammar Gaddafi’s Libya or Saddam Hussein’s Iraq. One year into the uprising against Bashar al-Assad, diplomats in Damascus have now got into the habit of recording newscasts and watching them over and over again to determine their authenticity like detectives going through potential evidence with a magnifying glass or a microscope.

Another European diplomat from a country that is solidly standing by President Assad had a bizarre experience. He was watching disturbingly violent and graphic images from Syria on an Arabic news channel. One clipping showed a burning building in Homs, which had already become the epicentre of the fight between the Syrian government and the rebels. Accompanying these images was the voice of a young girl who was wailing that her house had been set on fire by Assad’s thugs.

This diplomat happened to know the country much better than most of his European contemporaries and, as is the norm now in Damascus, he was recording this news footage. He played it again and again later only to realize that the burning property in question in Homs was actually the ruling Ba’ath Party‘s headquarters there, a building he knew well.

It was nobody’s home as the newscast alleged. Moreover, it was beyond comprehension why the Syrian government would firebomb the ruling party’s provincial headquarters. It is reasonable to assume that the building was set ablaze by the Opposition and then filmed for use as suitable propaganda.

It is not my argument that everything that one sees on television about Syria is concocted. A reasonable estimate is that about a third of the country has slipped out of the government’s control. A survey by the Qatar Foundation, which is not sympathetic to Assad, concluded in December that 55 per cent of the Syrians supported the president.

Syria has become a laboratory for experimenting with the power of the new media in changing the world order. The experiment began with the “colour revolutions” elsewhere in the last decade, but the results have been mixed. Attempts at permanent regime change failed after the initial success of the “Orange Revolution” in Ukraine and the “Tulip Revolution” in Kyrgyzstan, much to the disappointment of those who promoted these revolutions from abroad.

Typical of this experiment is what one diplomat in Damascus showed me. These television images which he recorded show fire in buildings, but strangely enough, these buildings withstand the huge flames and smoke unlike the World Trade Centre in New York which collapsed after becoming a fireball on September 11, 2001.

In Syria, as recorded images from Arabic news channels convinced me, one trick to get the upper hand in an information war using the new media has been to place big truck tyres on top of buildings, douse them liberally with gasoline and then set the tyres on fire. With a sleight of hand in filming the fire, it is possible to make it appear that the entire property is ablaze.

In reality, however, the buildings are intact and are being used like a traditional film set. Yet when such clips are posted on social media websites, they acquire a kind of credibility that was once associated with genuine news pictures from a war or a disaster, natural or otherwise.

I put it to Syria’s minister for information, Adnan Mahmoud, that it is inevitable that any vacuum in information will be filled by whatever purports to be news and that such tricks using the new media have gained credibility only because Damascus has not allowed unrestricted or independent reporting by the Western media. It is not the Arabic media alone. The Opposition has cleverly used the social media and fed news outlets with disinformation that has left the Assad government far behind in this new type of smart media war.

I was left with the impression that the minister was not oblivious to this, but the problem with governments such as the one in Damascus is that even ministers can be helpless. Real power resides elsewhere and claims to know best.

I spent an hour with Ahmad Badr al-Din Hassoun, the Grand Mufti of Syria. For seven years now, he is the top religious leader of Sunnis, who make up the majority in the country. It was disturbing, to put it mildly, to hear him bring up Kashmir at least six times during our conversation.

India ought to wisen up to the threat that the success of the current media experiment in Syria could pose for its own multi-religious, multi-ethnic, pluralistic society. When the problems in Palestine and the rest of the Muslim ummah are eventually resolved, the new crop of pretenders to freedom of information in the Arabic media could one day target India to further the agenda of some Arab states by rewriting the rules of news reporting and diplomacy as we have understood them for a long time.

As of now, India is ill-equipped to face such a threat to its very existence. The earlier the country wakes up to this danger, the better it will be for all Indians.

Ive already posted this article.
 
Something i found on the net

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Spot on, these are the points I've been trying to make in this thread. Yet as we speak Khalifa is on his way to meet Obama so they can discuss how to bring democracy to Syria. The ironing is truly delicious.
 
Peaceful syrian "rebels" fighting for democracy and human rights


The same rebels along with their Al-Qaeda friends recently bombing a busy Damascus street:



I see nothing wrong with arming and funding these same people, because lets face it, it worked a treat when funding the Mujahadeen in the 80s.
 
Peaceful syrian "rebels" fighting for democracy and human rights


I really didn't want to put those type of videos, but here you go:












Sorry couldn't stay that peaceful anymore, there's fighting, but the protests are still peaceful, how can you see your whole family dying, your friends, and your loved ones, and still stay peaceful? We didn't things to become like this, we wanted to stay peaceful, but if we did, we'd all be dead by now, so sorry. :)
 
The same rebels along with their Al-Qaeda friends recently bombing a busy Damascus street:


I see nothing wrong with arming and funding these same people, because lets face it, it worked a treat when funding the Mujahadeen in the 80s.


Yep, we are all just a punch of millions of terrorists who wants to topple the regime. :)
 
Few more articles, thought provoking if nothing else.


INFORMATION WAR

- The Arabic media are furthering their own agenda in Syria

DIPLOMACY: K.P. Nayar

Just about a week in Syria can be an eye-opening experience. For the first time since I became a journalist 40 years ago, I was embarrassed to identify myself as belonging to the media before those who are outside the Fourth Estate.

One day during my stay in Damascus two weeks ago, I watched Al Jazeera announce the “breaking news” of demonstrations against the Syrian government in Duma on the outskirts of the capital. I jumped into a taxi and persuaded the reluctant driver, who had also heard on Al Jazeera about trouble in Duma, to take me there.

To my initial puzzlement and subsequent revulsion, I found that Duma was as peaceful and bustling as Calcutta’s Park Street on a normal day, its residents going about their business as usual. To be sure, I asked around, but no one knew anything about any protests in their midst that day although many had heard about it on Al Jazeera. There had been demonstrations against the government in Duma, but the last time its residents protested was almost two months ago, in the third week of January, according to residents there.

Journalists are human. They make mistakes. So I gave the benefit of doubt to the Doha-based television channel, which was hailed as a refreshing new start in the global media when it was first launched. Among the scores of journalists from Turkey, Egypt, Jordan, India and other non-Western news outlets who were in Syria at the same time that I was visiting, there were many who had hailed Al Jazeera on its dawn as a welcome alternative to the American and European media which now dominate international news coverage.

During the remainder of my stay in Syria, I realized that this was not a case of inadvertent misreporting. And Al Jazeera is not alone in making up news instead of reporting news. A new crop of Arabic news outlets, claiming to be free, have become active players in the Arab Spring as much as rebel movements and governments in West Asia, the latter with their specific agendas that are actually in collision with the spirit of a new democratic upsurge in the region.

Combined with an information revolution brought on by YouTube, Facebook and the rest of the social media, a wholly new style of news management is rewriting the rules and long-accepted crisis communication techniques in diplomacy in countries such as Syria.

I sympathized with a European diplomat in Damascus who confessed to having seriously bungled on account of these changes and learned a lesson that he will not easily forget for the rest of his career. This diplomat recently sent a cable to his headquarters in good faith that the Opposition “Free Syrian Army” had destroyed a two-storey building that housed an important defence establishment, a significant advance for the so-far motley crew of rebels.

The matter would have rested there. But a few days after the telegram was sent, another diplomat from the same embassy passed by the building that was supposed to have been destroyed and reported to his colleague what he saw. The building was still standing and intact. There was confusion and consternation at the embassy until a Syrian employee solved the mystery for her European bosses.

It is normal for diplomats to rely heavily on their local employees, especially when there is a dangerous environment in the host country. No doubt, the buck, in such cases, stops with the ambassador or his deputy chief of mission, who has cleared such reporting for transmission home. Many embassies around the world have local employees who are so reliable that they are sometimes more valuable for a country than the head of mission. In this case, the local employee confessed that she had only heard about the destruction of the defence building on Al Jazeera: she had not gone to the site to check the report for its veracity.

Even in the best of times, reliable and verifiable information has been hard to come by in countries such as Hafez al-Assad’s Syria, Muammar Gaddafi’s Libya or Saddam Hussein’s Iraq. One year into the uprising against Bashar al-Assad, diplomats in Damascus have now got into the habit of recording newscasts and watching them over and over again to determine their authenticity like detectives going through potential evidence with a magnifying glass or a microscope.

Another European diplomat from a country that is solidly standing by President Assad had a bizarre experience. He was watching disturbingly violent and graphic images from Syria on an Arabic news channel. One clipping showed a burning building in Homs, which had already become the epicentre of the fight between the Syrian government and the rebels. Accompanying these images was the voice of a young girl who was wailing that her house had been set on fire by Assad’s thugs.

This diplomat happened to know the country much better than most of his European contemporaries and, as is the norm now in Damascus, he was recording this news footage. He played it again and again later only to realize that the burning property in question in Homs was actually the ruling Ba’ath Party‘s headquarters there, a building he knew well.

It was nobody’s home as the newscast alleged. Moreover, it was beyond comprehension why the Syrian government would firebomb the ruling party’s provincial headquarters. It is reasonable to assume that the building was set ablaze by the Opposition and then filmed for use as suitable propaganda.

It is not my argument that everything that one sees on television about Syria is concocted. A reasonable estimate is that about a third of the country has slipped out of the government’s control. A survey by the Qatar Foundation, which is not sympathetic to Assad, concluded in December that 55 per cent of the Syrians supported the president.

Syria has become a laboratory for experimenting with the power of the new media in changing the world order. The experiment began with the “colour revolutions” elsewhere in the last decade, but the results have been mixed. Attempts at permanent regime change failed after the initial success of the “Orange Revolution” in Ukraine and the “Tulip Revolution” in Kyrgyzstan, much to the disappointment of those who promoted these revolutions from abroad.

Typical of this experiment is what one diplomat in Damascus showed me. These television images which he recorded show fire in buildings, but strangely enough, these buildings withstand the huge flames and smoke unlike the World Trade Centre in New York which collapsed after becoming a fireball on September 11, 2001.

In Syria, as recorded images from Arabic news channels convinced me, one trick to get the upper hand in an information war using the new media has been to place big truck tyres on top of buildings, douse them liberally with gasoline and then set the tyres on fire. With a sleight of hand in filming the fire, it is possible to make it appear that the entire property is ablaze.

In reality, however, the buildings are intact and are being used like a traditional film set. Yet when such clips are posted on social media websites, they acquire a kind of credibility that was once associated with genuine news pictures from a war or a disaster, natural or otherwise.

I put it to Syria’s minister for information, Adnan Mahmoud, that it is inevitable that any vacuum in information will be filled by whatever purports to be news and that such tricks using the new media have gained credibility only because Damascus has not allowed unrestricted or independent reporting by the Western media. It is not the Arabic media alone. The Opposition has cleverly used the social media and fed news outlets with disinformation that has left the Assad government far behind in this new type of smart media war.

I was left with the impression that the minister was not oblivious to this, but the problem with governments such as the one in Damascus is that even ministers can be helpless. Real power resides elsewhere and claims to know best.

I spent an hour with Ahmad Badr al-Din Hassoun, the Grand Mufti of Syria. For seven years now, he is the top religious leader of Sunnis, who make up the majority in the country. It was disturbing, to put it mildly, to hear him bring up Kashmir at least six times during our conversation.

India ought to wisen up to the threat that the success of the current media experiment in Syria could pose for its own multi-religious, multi-ethnic, pluralistic society. When the problems in Palestine and the rest of the Muslim ummah are eventually resolved, the new crop of pretenders to freedom of information in the Arabic media could one day target India to further the agenda of some Arab states by rewriting the rules of news reporting and diplomacy as we have understood them for a long time.

As of now, India is ill-equipped to face such a threat to its very existence. The earlier the country wakes up to this danger, the better it will be for all Indians.

Holy shit :lo: this article is hilarious to say the least, Duma is Damascus suburbs, I can show you videos of what's happened in Duma!! it's nothing like what this article described!!
 
Spot on, these are the points I've been trying to make in this thread. Yet as we speak Khalifa is on his way to meet Obama so they can discuss how to bring democracy to Syria. The ironing is truly delicious.

Khalifa will also be coming to Britain next month for lunch with the Queen, at her invite, to celebrate her Diamond Jubilee.
 
I really didn't want to put those type of videos, but here you go:












Sorry couldn't stay that peaceful anymore, there's fighting, but the protests are still peaceful, how can you see your whole family dying, your friends, and your loved ones, and still stay peaceful? We didn't things to become like this, we wanted to stay peaceful, but if we did, we'd all be dead by now, so sorry. :)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17578248