So that's it then eh?
Uprising over...
Everyone ruling out arming the opposition, and the acceptance of the 'six point' plan means, Bashar is going to ride this out.
You're fighting a losing battle here RK. Assad has been shelling civilians for months. There's no way out of this for him now short of ceding power.
What battle? I'm merely reporting things which the western media and Qatari-owned Al-Jazeera are refusing to.
The Syrian army has had no choice but to fire back at FSA terrorists who have had intimidated locals into planing themselves in civilian-dense locations, and plotting bomb attacks in town centres. Not to mention the random mortar fire which is mostly initiated by them.
My other half's family in Aleppo are terrified not because of the army's presence, but rather terrified that the army might leave, leaving them at the mercy of the FSA who would then initiate the violence again, executing pro-Assad civilians immaterial of whether they're women or children.
Their sentiments tend to be echoed by millions of Syrians across the country:
If what you're saying is accurate it would be reported more broadly by western media who don't have a dog in the fight. CNN, BBC and the lot are all reporting this to be what it is - a dictator brutally cracking down on innocent civilians in a desperate attempt to stay in power.
Thats kind of my point, the western media aren't reporting the entire story and naturally are going to side with the rebels, considering Syria's cosy relations with Iran. Meanwhile the Gulf-owned media outlets such as Al-Jazeera and Al Arabiya are also carrying out very one-sided reporting, again hardly surprising considering the Gulf states' animosity with Iran/Syria.
You only hear the 'other side' of the story if you look towards media outlets such as PressTV and RT...yes they're mouthpieces for the countries they're based in, but thats no different to the likes of Al-Jazeera who have been deliberately selectively editing their footage to exaggerate Assad's actions (as confirmed by their former producer in the video I posted above)
For what its worth I'm doing my own investigative research (as should anywhere here I would recommend), and tend to get first had account from people actually living in Syria.....not folks attending marches in Washington and Toronto and shouting "democracy for Syria!" while waving Saudi flags.
Here's also some vblogs I recommend from actual Syrians, not internet revolutionaries:
Its pointless resorting to dueling YouTube clips. Western media aren't incentivized to have a dog in the fight. They're reporting things as they see it, and on occasion have also reported the dark side of the opposition. At the end of the day, this is Assad's war against his own people. Had he started the reforms the people are calling for now, years ago - then he wouldn't be in this sort of trouble. As it stands, he's in for a crimes against humanity charge in addition to eventually getting booted out of Syria. He'll be lucky to not go down Qaddafi's path at this point.
And this idea that its Assad's war against his people is not only ludicrously simplified, but its flat out false too. Assad hasn't been personally ordering attacks against the Syrian people, instead he's put trust into his army and the generals which lead them (almost all of which remain loyal to Syria and Assad) to provide stability and crush any violent threats. And funny enough if these FSA rebels start cowardly forcing themselves into civilian homes in Homs to launch their mortar attacks from, or if they plant bombs in civilian-dense zones in Damascus, then the army will most likely retaliate. And unfortunately when that happens innocent people get caught up in the crossfire.
The truth is millions of Syrians either remain loyal to Assad, or prefer him to the alternative which would most likely be an Islamic theocracy which would threaten Syria's secular fabric. The best solution would hence to carry out (significant) reforms, not sectarian civil war which is what the gulf nations are currently egging for. I think I speak for most Syrians when I say we don't need another Lebanon or Iraq in the region.
That's not an excuse. He's Syria's authoritarian dictator and could tell his generals to lay off shelling civilians. Sending tanks and helicopters into cities where thousands of families live will get him a crimes against humanity indictment. Either way, he's finished. Its just a matter of time.
So you're suggesting he tells his troops to stop retaliating against terrorist attacks? So he's just supposed to say "oh nevermind those bearded men running around with RPGs and IEDs, I'm sure they're harmless". Syrians actually feel safer with the army in their cities. You're forgetting that they're not dealing with peaceful protestors, but rather full armed militants, with even some integrated Al-Qaeda elements as evident from the video below (ignore the childish title):
And I wouldn't be sure about him being finished anytime soon, not so long as he still maintains the loyalty of millions of Syrians as well the army.The only way I see that happening is if we have another Iraq style invasion, but something tells me they won't be brave enough to risk the irk of the Russians and Chinese this time round.
Qaddafi tried to play the terrorism card as well and look what happened to him after he bombed the hell out of Misrata. The more you dehumanize the public by indiscriminately shelling them, the angrier they become. It turns into a tit for tat where the government have to get progressively more violent which in turn angers the public even more. At this point, Assad has far too much blood on his hands to where he can stay in power. The instant he stops bombing, the people are going to start protesting with more passion than before. Its not a matter of if, but when.
Except the army aren't indiscriminately shelling civilians, they retaliating against FSA attacks...many of which are actually indiscriminate. If the army refuse to fight back and stand down as you're suggesting, then not only will more soldiers die, but many more pro-Assad civilians would be executed (ala Libya). The FSA have also made it clear that they do not accept any reforms and would only stop when Assad's family is left hanging in the streets of Damascus, further solidifying their intentions to develop this into an all out civil war and completely undermining any proposed peace plans.
Also, whatever you think of Gadaffi he was right about terrorists being amongst the Libyan rebellion; Al-Qaeda cells being involved was one of the worst kept secrets throughout the whole conflict.
Nonsense. Remember the genesis of this. The army went into Dara'a to squash what were originally Arab spring style protests by people aspiring for greater freedoms and to have their voices heard. What ensued has been an authoritarian crackdown on the majority population, which has generated an anti-regime insurgency. Therefore the Assad regime is completely to blame for any subsequent actions following the assault on Dara'a. It sucks to be a quasi-Shi'a authoritarian dictator in a majority Sunni country, and this is the system cleaning itself up. Assad will be gone before too long.
Thats kind of my point, the western media aren't reporting the entire story and naturally are going to side with the rebels, considering Syria's cosy relations with Iran. Meanwhile the Gulf-owned media outlets such as Al-Jazeera and Al Arabiya are also carrying out very one-sided reporting, again hardly surprising considering the Gulf states' animosity with Iran/Syria.
You only hear the 'other side' of the story if you look towards media outlets such as PressTV and RT...yes they're mouthpieces for the countries they're based in, but thats no different to the likes of Al-Jazeera who have been deliberately selectively editing their footage to exaggerate Assad's actions (as confirmed by their former producer in the video I posted above)
What battle? I'm merely reporting things which the western media and Qatari-owned Al-Jazeera are refusing to.
The Syrian army has had no choice but to fire back at FSA terrorists who have had intimidated locals into planing themselves in civilian-dense locations, and plotting bomb attacks in town centres. Not to mention the random mortar fire which is mostly initiated by them.
Is it fair to assume you'll show better understanding of IDF tactics next time violence erupts in Gaza? My bet is that we won't kill 10,000 in retaliation to mortar fire.
I'd better understand IDF tactics if their senior officers weren't riflebutting Danish activists in the face unprovoked. But thats a pretty cheap point to score, there's no similarity with whats happening in Gaza and whats happening in Syria.
SFA are not going to come through this with clean hands. The rebels of Lybia had the same trouble. If you want to post on the nasty things that the SFA are up to, I don't have a problem with it.
War is ugly and mostly undesirable for myself to get behind. Although with the massacre that we have witnessed by the hands of the Bashar military, I stand behind the people fighting a mass murderer.
Once Syria flips, it will be bad new for Iran and their Hezbollah chums in Lebanon. The Shi'a crescent dream will effectively be in tatters.