Livestream out of Syria

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpCX37wdDJI&list=UUGjiJhKAOwC6odQiMyfYmnQ&index=7&feature=plcp

I had spent the past month convincing the local DC Occupy movement embrace the Syrian people. ~ We had many of our people in the crowd, as well as our National Lawyer's Guild Occupy observers participate to be sure the secret service and Nat. Parks Police didn't harass the protesters.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sytd6SNvBjw


The sad story of this song/chant is that the Bashar thugs found the writer of this song in Syria and killed him for helping to inspire the protesters in Syria




Omar Offendum of the popular Egyptian revolution video visits the Free Syria rally at the White House


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9a9zvsA2Z7g


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHQYAPr1Ipo



The rally was set to end at 2:30pm on Saturday. One of the more welcoming surprises of the day came at around 2:00pm when the Free Iranian folks showed up in solidarity with the Syria rally folks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8hsGIYiBfU&list=UUGjiJhKAOwC6odQiMyfYmnQ&index=5&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JgWy8Sesw0

 
So that's it then eh?

Uprising over...

Everyone ruling out arming the opposition, and the acceptance of the 'six point' plan means, Bashar is going to ride this out.
 
So that's it then eh?

Uprising over...

Everyone ruling out arming the opposition, and the acceptance of the 'six point' plan means, Bashar is going to ride this out.

Doubtful. He is ignoring (or wildly misinterpreting) the Kofi Annan proposal he just agreed to a few days earlier. If it continues, there's no way he can stay on because Russia and China will find it increasingly difficult to get his back.
 
The current situation in Syria:

As the United Nations prepare to see that the peace keeping demands set for Tuesday 10/4 are met, Bashar al-Assad proposes an unreasonable and unattainable demand from the scattered Syrian resistance.

PHP:


Bashar al-Assad finds himself being squeezed by more and more international pressure as he defies the call from the world to cease the brutal massacre of the Syrian people.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...lso-on-board/2012/03/27/gIQAjav7dS_story.html


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Developing story over the past week:

As my involvement in assisting in promote the Free Syria Rally at the White House has plugged me into the Syrian American community ~ I received a phone call out the the blue this past Tuesday from a Syrian American mother who has been trying to organize a rally in Washington DC for the women and children of Syria. Through our connections with the Occupy movement and Syrian resistance advocacy groups the Syrian Mothers and Children of Resistance Rally should be a huge success

Tuesday of 10 April:

Nagia Khaldi Kurabi, one of the primary organizers of the Mothers and Children of Syria (Not a formerly established advocacy group) will be in We Act Radio 1480 AM radio w/ the Mayor of Patterson, NJ (a Syrian American). Livestream will be available through Mobile Broadcast News ... as Hosts Kimone, Ron, and I interview them about the situation in Syria.

Friday of 13 April

Mothers and Children of Syria Rally
Location: The Watergate Hotel across from the Saudi Arabia Embassy
Time: 11am ET
Speakers TBA
Media Link for the day of the event ~ http://mobilebroadcastnews.com/NewsRoom/MBN-LIVE
http://www.weactradio.com/

Two graphics designers from the Occupy movement are working on internet posters for this event. They expected to be done by, tomorrow.

Saturday of 14 April

The mothers and children have been invited to come to the street festival at Martin Luther King avenue in Anacostia (Washington, D.C.) in front of the We Act Radio station. We are expected to have 100,000 listeners through syndication for this day. Several of the Syrian moms have already agreed to attend.

History of Syria and how the situation has come to be in Syria at the link below. ~ excellent comprehensive historical perspective

 
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From our radio station, last night...

We Act Radio with the help of Mobile Broadcast News interviewed and livestreamed Nagia Khaldi Kurabi and her friend AJ who wished to be off camera.

http://www.livestream.com/mobilebroadcastnews/video?clipId=pla_00be366c-7b4a-4866-94ab-6e59b373245f

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_w5YFnFuFM




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YEI2qKyTMw

 
As our media group followed this group of Syrian Americans around the entire day from the Embassy of Saudi Arabia to the Syrian Embassy to the White House, the highlight of this past Friday was when the bus pulled up to the Islamic Center of Washington DC which is surrounded by many of the middle eastern flags. Three of the men took down the Syrian national flag and raised up the Syrian rebel flag, as seen in the video.



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Bob, you're not giving a balanced picture of whats happening in Syria so I feel obliged to step in to provide some alternative insight, particularly on the so called heroics of the 'benevolent' FSA.

First up, the FSA executes a mentally ill man whos randomly chanting pro-Assad slogans:



FSA execute unarmed pro assad civilian at close range:



Al Jazeera producer resigns citing biased, selective reporting in Syria (and Libya):




FSA propaganda debunked:


Recent pro-Assad rally in Damascus celebrating 65 years of Syrian independence:

 
You're fighting a losing battle here RK. Assad has been shelling civilians for months. There's no way out of this for him now short of ceding power.
 
You're fighting a losing battle here RK. Assad has been shelling civilians for months. There's no way out of this for him now short of ceding power.

What battle? I'm merely reporting things which the western media and Qatari-owned Al-Jazeera are refusing to.

The Syrian army has had no choice but to fire back at FSA terrorists who have had intimidated locals into planing themselves in civilian-dense locations, and plotting bomb attacks in town centres. Not to mention the random mortar fire which is mostly initiated by them.

My other half's family in Aleppo are terrified not because of the army's presence, but rather terrified that the army might leave, leaving them at the mercy of the FSA who would then initiate the violence again, executing pro-Assad civilians immaterial of whether they're women or children.

Their sentiments tend to be echoed by millions of Syrians across the country:

 
What battle? I'm merely reporting things which the western media and Qatari-owned Al-Jazeera are refusing to.

The Syrian army has had no choice but to fire back at FSA terrorists who have had intimidated locals into planing themselves in civilian-dense locations, and plotting bomb attacks in town centres. Not to mention the random mortar fire which is mostly initiated by them.

My other half's family in Aleppo are terrified not because of the army's presence, but rather terrified that the army might leave, leaving them at the mercy of the FSA who would then initiate the violence again, executing pro-Assad civilians immaterial of whether they're women or children.

Their sentiments tend to be echoed by millions of Syrians across the country:



If what you're saying is accurate it would be reported more broadly by western media who don't have a dog in the fight. CNN, BBC and the lot are all reporting this to be what it is - a dictator brutally cracking down on innocent civilians in a desperate attempt to stay in power.
 
If what you're saying is accurate it would be reported more broadly by western media who don't have a dog in the fight. CNN, BBC and the lot are all reporting this to be what it is - a dictator brutally cracking down on innocent civilians in a desperate attempt to stay in power.

Thats kind of my point, the western media aren't reporting the entire story and naturally are going to side with the rebels, considering Syria's cosy relations with Iran. Meanwhile the Gulf-owned media outlets such as Al-Jazeera and Al Arabiya are also carrying out very one-sided reporting, again hardly surprising considering the Gulf states' animosity with Iran/Syria.

You only hear the 'other side' of the story if you look towards media outlets such as PressTV and RT...yes they're mouthpieces for the countries they're based in, but thats no different to the likes of Al-Jazeera who have been deliberately selectively editing their footage to exaggerate Assad's actions (as confirmed by their former producer in the video I posted above)

For what its worth I'm doing my own investigative research (as should anywhere here I would recommend), and tend to get first had account from people actually living in Syria.....not folks attending marches in Washington and Toronto and shouting "democracy for Syria!" while waving Saudi flags.

Here's also some vblogs I recommend from actual Syrians, not internet revolutionaries:



 
Thats kind of my point, the western media aren't reporting the entire story and naturally are going to side with the rebels, considering Syria's cosy relations with Iran. Meanwhile the Gulf-owned media outlets such as Al-Jazeera and Al Arabiya are also carrying out very one-sided reporting, again hardly surprising considering the Gulf states' animosity with Iran/Syria.

You only hear the 'other side' of the story if you look towards media outlets such as PressTV and RT...yes they're mouthpieces for the countries they're based in, but thats no different to the likes of Al-Jazeera who have been deliberately selectively editing their footage to exaggerate Assad's actions (as confirmed by their former producer in the video I posted above)

For what its worth I'm doing my own investigative research (as should anywhere here I would recommend), and tend to get first had account from people actually living in Syria.....not folks attending marches in Washington and Toronto and shouting "democracy for Syria!" while waving Saudi flags.

Here's also some vblogs I recommend from actual Syrians, not internet revolutionaries:





Its pointless resorting to dueling YouTube clips. Western media aren't incentivized to have a dog in the fight. They're reporting things as they see it, and on occasion have also reported the dark side of the opposition. At the end of the day, this is Assad's war against his own people. Had he started the reforms the people are calling for now, years ago - then he wouldn't be in this sort of trouble. As it stands, he's in for a crimes against humanity charge in addition to eventually getting booted out of Syria. He'll be lucky to not go down Qaddafi's path at this point.
 
Its pointless resorting to dueling YouTube clips. Western media aren't incentivized to have a dog in the fight. They're reporting things as they see it, and on occasion have also reported the dark side of the opposition. At the end of the day, this is Assad's war against his own people. Had he started the reforms the people are calling for now, years ago - then he wouldn't be in this sort of trouble. As it stands, he's in for a crimes against humanity charge in addition to eventually getting booted out of Syria. He'll be lucky to not go down Qaddafi's path at this point.

I agree with you in that Syria desperately needs reforms, I mean heck I was one of those loudest in demands for reforms back in March 2011 when the protests started. However since then these peaceful protests have been hijacked by Islamic extremists who have steered them into an all out violent sectarian conflict, and won't stop now until Syria becomes an Islamic theocracy. Thats also why regional neighbours such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar have been arming the rebels - they have no regard for human rights or democracy in Syria, they just hate seeing Alawites at the helm and would rather have their own Wahabi-like ilk running the country.

And this idea that its Assad's war against his people is not only ludicrously simplified, but its flat out false too. Assad hasn't been personally ordering attacks against the Syrian people, instead he's put trust into his army and the generals which lead them (almost all of which remain loyal to Syria and Assad) to provide stability and crush any violent threats. And funny enough if these FSA rebels start cowardly forcing themselves into civilian homes in Homs to launch their mortar attacks from, or if they plant bombs in civilian-dense zones in Damascus, then the army will most likely retaliate. And unfortunately when that happens innocent people get caught up in the crossfire.

The truth is millions of Syrians either remain loyal to Assad, or prefer him to the alternative which would most likely be an Islamic theocracy which would threaten Syria's secular fabric. The best solution would hence to carry out (significant) reforms, not sectarian civil war which is what the gulf nations are currently egging for. I think I speak for most Syrians when I say we don't need another Lebanon or Iraq in the region.
 
And this idea that its Assad's war against his people is not only ludicrously simplified, but its flat out false too. Assad hasn't been personally ordering attacks against the Syrian people, instead he's put trust into his army and the generals which lead them (almost all of which remain loyal to Syria and Assad) to provide stability and crush any violent threats. And funny enough if these FSA rebels start cowardly forcing themselves into civilian homes in Homs to launch their mortar attacks from, or if they plant bombs in civilian-dense zones in Damascus, then the army will most likely retaliate. And unfortunately when that happens innocent people get caught up in the crossfire.

The truth is millions of Syrians either remain loyal to Assad, or prefer him to the alternative which would most likely be an Islamic theocracy which would threaten Syria's secular fabric. The best solution would hence to carry out (significant) reforms, not sectarian civil war which is what the gulf nations are currently egging for. I think I speak for most Syrians when I say we don't need another Lebanon or Iraq in the region.

That's not an excuse. He's Syria's authoritarian dictator and could tell his generals to lay off shelling civilians. Sending tanks and helicopters into cities where thousands of families live will get him a crimes against humanity indictment. Either way, he's finished. Its just a matter of time.
 
That's not an excuse. He's Syria's authoritarian dictator and could tell his generals to lay off shelling civilians. Sending tanks and helicopters into cities where thousands of families live will get him a crimes against humanity indictment. Either way, he's finished. Its just a matter of time.

So you're suggesting he tells his troops to stop retaliating against terrorist attacks? So he's just supposed to say "oh nevermind those bearded men running around with RPGs and IEDs, I'm sure they're harmless". Syrians actually feel safer with the army in their cities. You're forgetting that they're not dealing with peaceful protestors, but rather full armed militants, with even some integrated Al-Qaeda elements as evident from the video below (ignore the childish title):



And I wouldn't be sure about him being finished anytime soon, not so long as he still maintains the loyalty of millions of Syrians as well the army.The only way I see that happening is if we have another Iraq style invasion, but something tells me they won't be brave enough to risk the irk of the Russians and Chinese this time round.
 
So you're suggesting he tells his troops to stop retaliating against terrorist attacks? So he's just supposed to say "oh nevermind those bearded men running around with RPGs and IEDs, I'm sure they're harmless". Syrians actually feel safer with the army in their cities. You're forgetting that they're not dealing with peaceful protestors, but rather full armed militants, with even some integrated Al-Qaeda elements as evident from the video below (ignore the childish title):



And I wouldn't be sure about him being finished anytime soon, not so long as he still maintains the loyalty of millions of Syrians as well the army.The only way I see that happening is if we have another Iraq style invasion, but something tells me they won't be brave enough to risk the irk of the Russians and Chinese this time round.


Qaddafi tried to play the terrorism card as well and look what happened to him after he bombed the hell out of Misrata. The more you dehumanize the public by indiscriminately shelling them, the angrier they become. It turns into a tit for tat where the government have to get progressively more violent which in turn angers the public even more. At this point, Assad has far too much blood on his hands to where he can stay in power. The instant he stops bombing, the people are going to start protesting with more passion than before. Its not a matter of if, but when.
 
Qaddafi tried to play the terrorism card as well and look what happened to him after he bombed the hell out of Misrata. The more you dehumanize the public by indiscriminately shelling them, the angrier they become. It turns into a tit for tat where the government have to get progressively more violent which in turn angers the public even more. At this point, Assad has far too much blood on his hands to where he can stay in power. The instant he stops bombing, the people are going to start protesting with more passion than before. Its not a matter of if, but when.

Except the army aren't indiscriminately shelling civilians, they retaliating against FSA attacks...many of which are actually indiscriminate. If the army refuse to fight back and stand down as you're suggesting, then not only will more soldiers die, but many more pro-Assad civilians would be executed (ala Libya). The FSA have also made it clear that they do not accept any reforms and would only stop when Assad's family is left hanging in the streets of Damascus, further solidifying their intentions to develop this into an all out civil war and completely undermining any proposed peace plans.

Also, whatever you think of Gadaffi he was right about terrorists being amongst the Libyan rebellion; Al-Qaeda cells being involved was one of the worst kept secrets throughout the whole conflict.
 
I'd prefer assad everyday of the week 24x7 over the these extremists causing problems.

He's doing the right thing in eliminating them. You should know better than anyone how extremists and terrorists hide amongst civilians.
 
Except the army aren't indiscriminately shelling civilians, they retaliating against FSA attacks...many of which are actually indiscriminate. If the army refuse to fight back and stand down as you're suggesting, then not only will more soldiers die, but many more pro-Assad civilians would be executed (ala Libya). The FSA have also made it clear that they do not accept any reforms and would only stop when Assad's family is left hanging in the streets of Damascus, further solidifying their intentions to develop this into an all out civil war and completely undermining any proposed peace plans.

Also, whatever you think of Gadaffi he was right about terrorists being amongst the Libyan rebellion; Al-Qaeda cells being involved was one of the worst kept secrets throughout the whole conflict.

Nonsense. Remember the genesis of this. The army went into Dara'a to squash what were originally Arab spring style protests by people aspiring for greater freedoms and to have their voices heard. What ensued has been an authoritarian crackdown on the majority population, which has generated an anti-regime insurgency. Therefore the Assad regime is completely to blame for any subsequent actions following the assault on Dara'a. It sucks to be a quasi-Shi'a authoritarian dictator in a majority Sunni country, and this is the system cleaning itself up. Assad will be gone before too long.
 
Nonsense. Remember the genesis of this. The army went into Dara'a to squash what were originally Arab spring style protests by people aspiring for greater freedoms and to have their voices heard. What ensued has been an authoritarian crackdown on the majority population, which has generated an anti-regime insurgency. Therefore the Assad regime is completely to blame for any subsequent actions following the assault on Dara'a. It sucks to be a quasi-Shi'a authoritarian dictator in a majority Sunni country, and this is the system cleaning itself up. Assad will be gone before too long.

'Cleaning itself up' is a slightly crude way of putting it don't you think. I wonder if you would also regard the Bahrainis to be also 'cleaning up' the system with their dictator being a Sunni minority. Regardless, Syria is not Iran where it is a religious theocracy, since its independence it has maintained a secular constitution which protects ALL citizens of Syria, whether they're Sunni, Christian, Alawite, Druze, Kurd etc. That would be threatened if the FSA had their way and implemented a Sharia state orientated towards Wahabi doctrines. Believe it or not many Syrians don't want their country to become like Saudi Arabia (or even Iran for that matter).
 
Thats kind of my point, the western media aren't reporting the entire story and naturally are going to side with the rebels, considering Syria's cosy relations with Iran. Meanwhile the Gulf-owned media outlets such as Al-Jazeera and Al Arabiya are also carrying out very one-sided reporting, again hardly surprising considering the Gulf states' animosity with Iran/Syria.

You only hear the 'other side' of the story if you look towards media outlets such as PressTV and RT...yes they're mouthpieces for the countries they're based in, but thats no different to the likes of Al-Jazeera who have been deliberately selectively editing their footage to exaggerate Assad's actions (as confirmed by their former producer in the video I posted above)

RK on AJ
 
What battle? I'm merely reporting things which the western media and Qatari-owned Al-Jazeera are refusing to.

The Syrian army has had no choice but to fire back at FSA terrorists who have had intimidated locals into planing themselves in civilian-dense locations, and plotting bomb attacks in town centres. Not to mention the random mortar fire which is mostly initiated by them.

Is it fair to assume you'll show better understanding of IDF tactics next time violence erupts in Gaza? My bet is that we won't kill 10,000 in retaliation to mortar fire.
 
Is it fair to assume you'll show better understanding of IDF tactics next time violence erupts in Gaza? My bet is that we won't kill 10,000 in retaliation to mortar fire.

I'd better understand IDF tactics if their senior officers weren't riflebutting Danish activists in the face unprovoked. But thats a pretty cheap point to score, there's no similarity with whats happening in Gaza and whats happening in Syria.
 
I'd better understand IDF tactics if their senior officers weren't riflebutting Danish activists in the face unprovoked. But thats a pretty cheap point to score, there's no similarity with whats happening in Gaza and whats happening in Syria.

Unprovoked? Provocations don't make a good video. I don't mind "peace activists" being smacked every now and then if I'm honest, but the officer had to pay the price for getting caught.

I agree that there are many disimilarities between the Syrian massacre and the Gaza conflicts. The attempts to avoid civilian casualties among the major ones.
 
HEY HEY HEY.. Please take your IDF fight some place else. :nono:

You boys are taking this way off topic.


RK...

SFA are not going to come through this with clean hands. The rebels of Lybia had the same trouble. If you want to post on the nasty things that the SFA are up to, I don't have a problem with it.

War is ugly and mostly undesirable for myself to get behind. Although with the massacre that we have witnessed by the hands of the Bashar military, I stand behind the people fighting a mass murderer.
 
SFA are not going to come through this with clean hands. The rebels of Lybia had the same trouble. If you want to post on the nasty things that the SFA are up to, I don't have a problem with it.

War is ugly and mostly undesirable for myself to get behind. Although with the massacre that we have witnessed by the hands of the Bashar military, I stand behind the people fighting a mass murderer.

Judging from your previous posts I'm sure your intentions are both nobel and sincere Bob, but I honestly think you're misled on the actual events taking place in Syria.

You talk about massacres that 'you' have witnessed in Syria at the hands of Bashar, but where are you getting this information from? Unfortunately its true that many people from all sides have been slain in this conflict, but Bashar hasn't been going around indiscriminately slaying civilians for the sake of it, which is what the media is shallowly suggesting. Whats in fact happening is that there's a civil war fought between radical Sunni Islamists (who want Syria to become an Islamic theocracy) and the Syrian Army. There have been war crimes committed from both sides most likely, but remember that this only became a sectarian conflict because these lovely FSA folk had decided they didn't fancy having a secular Shia at the helm....and naturally they were going to be egged on by fellow theocrats such as Saudi Arabia.

Also you have to question the people you're committing your support too. I think that scarved woman in those videos you posted (her name escapes me) summed up my frustration - she was demanding democracy for Syria while waving a Saudi flag, and thanking the Saudi regime for its 'support' for Syria's democratic struggle. Does she not see the irony in all this? Furthermore, don't you think something's wrong when you're on the same wavelength as John McCain, Joseph Lieberman and Lindsey Graham:

 
Once Syria flips, it will be bad new for Iran and their Hezbollah chums in Lebanon. The Shi'a crescent dream will effectively be in tatters.
 
Once Syria flips, it will be bad new for Iran and their Hezbollah chums in Lebanon. The Shi'a crescent dream will effectively be in tatters.

This 'Shia crescent' fear is far too overplayed. For starters Syria isn't a Shia country, its always been a secular Arab nation with a secular Alawite dynasty, Iraq can't even look after itself and is as divisive as ever, ditto Lebanon. That leaves Iran as the only Shia 'powerhouse' surrounded by hostile states.

If Syria flips (which it wont ;) ), then the ME will find itself with the awkward position of having another unstable Islamic theocracy, something which I'm sure the Israelis would be grateful to have at their doorstep.
 
The brave men of the FSA massacre a family of 5 in cold bood in Hama, presumably because they follow the 'wrong' sect of Islam:

 
I know people won't exactly be thrilled listening to a Russian diplomat, but he speaks some sense here - particularly on why its irresponsibly detrimental for countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar to fund sectarian militias in Syria, undermining any peace plans or diplomatic initiatives:

 
Since you're so enamoured with YouTube clips, you should see what Syrian Scholes is posting in the newbies.