Liverpool benefitting from Referees

Thing which annoys me the most. Liverpool get A LOT of decisions in their way. A lot. More than any other team.

But they are still thinking how they are the ones who are robbed all the time and talking about "corruption".
 
These cringy threads whinging about Liverpool should just be merged and renamed “The Moan”.
 
Roy Keane said this about potential Lallana red card first half - ‘Southampton have got away with one there. The more I look at it the worse it gets’
This hasn’t been mentioned once in an objective thread about referee decisions. Weird
 
Roy Keane said this about potential Lallana red card first half - ‘Southampton have got away with one there. The more I look at it the worse it gets’
This hasn’t been mentioned once in an objective thread about referee decisions. Weird
Everton fan, aye?
 
Roy Keane said this about potential Lallana red card first half - ‘Southampton have got away with one there. The more I look at it the worse it gets’
This hasn’t been mentioned once in an objective thread about referee decisions. Weird
You ain’t seen nothing yet. It will ramp up progressively as the season continues if the league positions stay the same. And then the reset happens. So expect a lot of unbiased views to continue.
 
Let’s track this until the end of the season and keep it objective. - Pexbo
I only dipped in and out of the match mate and I haven’t raised any incidents, it’s relying on others to raise incidents for discussion. There’s about 5 Liverpool fans in here and none of them have mentioned it, what do you want me to do?

Anyway interesting first post from a toffee, that’s all I’m saying.
 
I only dipped in and out of the match mate and I haven’t raised any incidents, it’s relying on others to raise incidents for discussion. There’s about 5 Liverpool fans in here and none of them have mentioned it, what do you want me to do?

Anyway interesting first post from a toffee, that’s all I’m saying.
My first post wasn’t aimed at you. But you replied to me. So I pointed out you wanted objectivity. What do you want me to do?
 
Roy Keane said this about potential Lallana red card first half - ‘Southampton have got away with one there. The more I look at it the worse it gets’
This hasn’t been mentioned once in an objective thread about referee decisions. Weird

Everton fan? How dumb do you think we are
 
I only dipped in and out of the match mate and I haven’t raised any incidents, it’s relying on others to raise incidents for discussion. There’s about 5 Liverpool fans in here and none of them have mentioned it, what do you want me to do?

Anyway interesting first post from a toffee, that’s all I’m saying.

You're confessing to being a dipper?
 
If you think these are cringy you should see some of the threads on RAWK
Yea from decades ago when united were winning. Now the united thread is probably a meltdown thread until they get good again.
 
The funny thing is, if that second pen for Soton hadn't been given against the Dippers there would be a vast consiprsy made of it by the Dippers as to how the refs are against them. That one was blatant and probably would've made the game 3-1 to Soton.

That said, it doesn't help people arguments (about how the Dippers get the benefit of the doubt - which they do) when they discuss the Dipper handball pen and say it wasn't a pen. That one was a pen as the player left their arm out to divert the ball. The game turned on the lack of second pen to Soton, not the correctly given pen for handball.
 
Thing which annoys me the most. Liverpool get A LOT of decisions in their way. A lot. More than any other team.

But they are still thinking how they are the ones who are robbed all the time and talking about "corruption".

All football fans are like that

Doesn't matter what team, what country or the level of football.

Fans take it for granted when they benefit and soon forget about it, then they focus on the stuff they feel went against them.

All fans, everywhere.
 
Thing which annoys me the most. Liverpool get A LOT of decisions in their way. A lot. More than any other team.

But they are still thinking how they are the ones who are robbed all the time and talking about "corruption".
I know, moaning about cheating refs the whole last week, then for reasons unknown, their keeper was just allowed to wipe out the Southampton striker with no repercussions whatsoever. They need to shut the feck up to be honest.
 
Got away with another penalty not being awarded against them yesterday, at a time where Southampton could have gone 3-1 up. I can now recall 5 penalties this season that should have been given against them that haven't been.
 
Roy Keane said this about potential Lallana red card first half - ‘Southampton have got away with one there. The more I look at it the worse it gets’
This hasn’t been mentioned once in an objective thread about referee decisions. Weird
Was never a red. Also, why are you masquerading as an Everton fan?
 
Was never a red. Also, why are you masquerading as an Everton fan?


Don't mind the caption, and regardless of whether you think it's a red or not, let's just say that if Van Dijk did this on a Soton player this thread would've been a few pages longer.
 
Aren’t they the only top team in the VAR era to have a goal disallowed for offside which was actually clearly onside? That’s the opposite of jammy. Or how about their best/most important player having his knee wrecked and missing a year of football after an incredibly violent challenge in the opposition box which wasn’t even a penalty, never mind a red card?

Feel dirty as hell speaking up on their behalf but all this crap about referees being biased for/against specific teams is so fecking cringe.

I think moat teams have had something crazy go against them by now. Sheffield United got relegated because the goal line technology just decided to take a break. Wolves lost to Liverpool in the cup because they scored a valid goal that the linesman inexplicably disallowed for offside, and then we were meant to believe VAR didn't have a camera that could check it, despite us all being able to see it.

The only difference with the incident you're referring to is it's only Liverpool who tried to make it into a national catastrophe and demand the game is replayed. A game in which they'd had two players correctly sent off, which was the principle reason why they lost.

Not that I subscribe to it being a big fix in their favour, but they definitely aren't above thinking they should have special treatment and trying to use VAR to pressure officials into not giving things against them, because they have publicly done this (and faced 0 repercussions for it, btw). They have also under Klopp tried to dictate who should be allowed to officiate their games and insinuate certain referees don't like them.

So I do think questioning it is valid because it's Liverpool who have drawn the attention to it with their repeatedly attempting to gain preferential treatment.

This idea that top teams get more favourable decisions I don't think holds much water either. It's not an exact science due to the amount of it that's subjective, but if you look back over the research people have done into it, it's generally disproven. So if Liverpool are an exception (I have no idea if they are) it's definitely something to question.

There are some very odd and hard to explain stats when you look into the officiating a bit more in depth. Like Mike Dean being the only official booking twice as many United players as their opponents and doing so for year after year.

Every time I say this I have to say I'm sick of repeating it, but it's really naive to think the officiating can't possibly be dodgy with some of what we see with our own eyes, and also with accounts from the likes of Dean and Clattenberg where they've openly admitted to deliberately getting things wrong and in the process manipulating outcomes. It's ridiculous to think they wouldn't be above doing that for petty self preservation or ego reasons, yet would be above it if there was actually an incentive.

Or in other words I don't think these questions go away until we have an actual professionally run officiating system. Even then they won't go away because fans are babies, but they'd have a lot less to go on.

And to clarify I'm with you. I don't think Liverpool are top because of referees. Didn't see anything massively controversial yesterday. Mainly Southampton decided to draft their keeper in from the local circus. I also though don't for a second trust that the officiating is actually honest. I just don't think any agenda would be specifically in favour of one team. More that our officials are unprofessional idiots
 


Don't mind the caption, and regardless of whether you think it's a red or not, let's just say that if Van Dijk did this on a Soton player this thread would've been a few pages longer.

"Don't think we don't know what you're up to". :lol:
That is what i am talking about. Pool fans think that they are robbed every week and not just that; they think that league and officials are doing it on purpose.
 


Don't mind the caption, and regardless of whether you think it's a red or not, let's just say that if Van Dijk did this on a Soton player this thread would've been a few pages longer.

We had one yesterday where Delap caught Evans with his elbow. Then not long after, he absolutely flattens Mazraoui. Not a yellow in sight.

The difference is that Liverpool are so used to getting their own way that any perceived injustice is never shut up about.
 
"Don't think we don't know what you're up to". :lol:
That is what i am talking about. Pool fans think that they are robbed every week and not just that; they think that league and officials are doing it on purpose.
Which is why I said "never mind the caption". Twitter is full of lunatics, as much Utd as Liverpool ones.

We had one yesterday where Delap caught Evans with his elbow. Then not long after, he absolutely flattens Mazraoui. Not a yellow in sight.

The difference is that Liverpool are so used to getting their own way that any perceived injustice is never shut up about.
"Never shut up about", give me a fecking break, the VAR thread was full about those Delap/Evans and Mazraoui incidents :lol: "Small teams always get away with these momentum changers", good stuff.

Knew you (and specifically you because you are just the worst) would quote me on that. Which is why I said "regardless whether you think it was a red". I didn't even catch the incident when watching the game so can't say either way.
 
Konate one, the Southampton player went down too easy.

Dibling foul was outside the box.

Lallana was a yellow.