Liverpool 2018/19

By how many points will Liverpool win the title this season?

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One team and one man stands between Liverpool and a 19th league title and that’s City and Pep Guardiola.

I personally think City have that extra bit of quality and experience to get them over the line.

Liverpool will be close though.
 
Reynoldo said:
They’re gonna win it. Prepare yourselves for the despair lads.
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It had to happen one day. I'm 42, and when you get to that age, you realise there is more to life than football. I'm just so glad that when football was the only thing that mattered in my life during my 20s, we ruled the world. Thank you once again Sir Alex.
 
Josh 76 said:
It had to happen one day. I'm 42, and when you get to that age, you realise there is more to life than football. I'm just so glad that when football was the only thing that mattered in my life during my 20s, we ruled the world. Thank you once again Sir Alex.
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Yes it’s how I feel. I don’t want Liverpool to win the league but there’s more to life than football.

Saying that, let’s see how I feel if it actually does happen!
 
Man City won 6 straight games in peps first season yet failed miserably at end of season.

Its early days....
 
Josh 76 said:
It had to happen one day. I'm 42, and when you get to that age, you realise there is more to life than football. I'm just so glad that when football was the only thing that mattered in my life during my 20s, we ruled the world. Thank you once again Sir Alex.
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Yeah same to be honest, I’m not nearly as bothered as I would have been 10/15 years ago* And as you say these things are cyclical and it was always gonna happen one day. It just seems we are destined for a bit of a slump period at the moment which is the real shame.

* (Though that will probably change if they win it and I have to listen to all my Pool supporting friends banging on about it all the time.)
 
Josh 76 said:
It had to happen one day. I'm 42, and when you get to that age, you realise there is more to life than football. I'm just so glad that when football was the only thing that mattered in my life during my 20s, we ruled the world. Thank you once again Sir Alex.
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Haha! I'm 39 and that is exactly how I feel. You hit the nail on the head.
 
If they win the next 2, then joking aside yeah the nightmare will be very possible. They'll be the most favorite team for the league.
 
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Josh 76 said:
It had to happen one day. I'm 42, and when you get to that age, you realise there is more to life than football. I'm just so glad that when football was the only thing that mattered in my life during my 20s, we ruled the world. Thank you once again Sir Alex.
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I feel likewise. Although I think they will fall just short this year behind City.
 
Vadim said:
One team and one man stands between Liverpool and a 19th league title and that’s City and Pep Guardiola.

I personally think City have that extra bit of quality and experience to get them over the line.

Liverpool will be close though.
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What about Chelsea? They have won 2 of the last 4 PL titles after all. Most of them are still there. They have the experience when the going gets tough, which Liverpool don’t have.
 
Vadim said:
One team and one man stands between Liverpool and a 19th league title and that’s City and Pep Guardiola.

I personally think City have that extra bit of quality and experience to get them over the line.

Liverpool will be close though.
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Whilst I want Chelsea to win it barring the event that Jose performs a miracle, I do not trust Chelsea to get over the line over and above pool.

Chelsea strikes me as a team over-reliant on Hazard. Pedro, Willian, Morata, Rudiger, Alonso, etc would be bang average or a little above average without the influence of Hazard.

City, I trust more to put up a better challenge against pool but then again we wouldn't hear the last about their St. Pep and their arrogance would be over the roof.

Right now I'm not even sure about what I want:nervous::confused::nervous:
 
Bearded One said:
Whilst I want Chelsea to win it barring the event that Jose performs a miracle, I do not trust Chelsea to get over the line over and above pool.

Chelsea strikes me as a team over-reliant on Hazard. Pedro, Willian, Morata, Rudiger, Alonso, etc would be bang average or a little above average without the influence of Hazard.

City, I trust more to put up a better challenge against pool but then again we wouldn't hear the last about their St. Pep and their arrogance would be over the roof.

Right now I'm not even sure about what I want:nervous::confused::nervous:
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It's too early to say, but City look red hot at the moment. I do think City have a bit more in the PL but Liverpool beat them three times last season. After the Christmas period we will know who will actually compete for the title.
 
I'm not saying they will win the league, but I've been thinking they're pretty much exactly what we used to be.

They play exciting attacking football and have a 'score one more than you' attitude. When Fergie was in charge I always believed we'd win even if we conceded three.

They have a mix of all the types of player needed:

- Young prospects playing regularly (TAA, Robertson, Gomez). We always had something like this but yes I'm aware we still do now.
- Players bought for decent money/shrewd signings who have turned into stars (Salah, Mane, Firmino). We used to do the same with players like Ronaldo, Vidic, Evra, Hernandez, Nani, Ruud, Rafael.
- Big money signings (VVD, Allison, Keita). People said all sorts of shit when we signed Rio for 30m and it did seem a lot of money at the time. Same thing happened when they paid 70m for VVD but it's a similar scenario.
- The hard-working players (Milner, Henderson). Just like how we had Fletcher, Park, etc...

They have that team cohesion, the amount of movement when they attack compared to ours is night and day. It's sad to see and it'll probably be a few years before we see much change in that area for us, whether that is with Mourinho or not.
 
For all the talk of Liverpool's new found strength in depth following their summer transfer activity I still think they are a forward short of a title winning team.

They basically have their usual front 3 plus shaqiri and Sturridge (Origi and Solanke are not good enough). If their front 3 stay fit all season they can win the title but 1 long term injury and I can't see Shaqiri or Sturridge reaching the same level of performance.

Actually Sturridge is probably the key to it all, if he stays fit and gets goals off the bench and comes on and turns draws into wins it's possible but 2013/14 was his last good campaign and his usual season is to have a number of injuries and finish up with 5 goals. That's why Solskjaer was so important for us and as responsible for our successes as the players starting every game.
 
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Our next four games are:

Chelsea (h) CC
Chelsea (a) PL
Napoli (a) CL
Man City (h) PL

Time to see what we’re really made of.
 
Klopper76 said:
Our next four games are:

Chelsea (h) CC
Chelsea (a) PL
Napoli (a) CL
Man City (h) PL

Time to see what we’re really made of.
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We've already beaten PSG in the CL and Spurs away from home though, whilst comfortably beating Soton without a few of our key players. It's say it's not that decisive for us - I'd take a draw at Chelsea and at Napoli, and don't care a zilch about the League Cup. Only game we should be winning is City, they are the favourites for the title and head to head games could be very important this season. Luckily they've been poor at Anfield in recent times and Klopp seems to have Pep's number. Long may it continue.
 
ActionJackson said:
For all the talk of Liverpool's new found strength in depth following their summer transfer activity I still think they are a forward short of a title winning team.

They basically have their usual front 3 plus shaqiri and Sturridge (Origi and Solanke are not good enough). If their front 3 stay fit all season they can win the title but 1 long term injury and I can't see Shaqiri or Sturridge reaching the same level of performance.

Actually Sturridge is probably the key to it all, if he stays fit and gets goals off the bench and comes on and turns draws into wins it's possible but 2013/14 was his last good campaign and his usual season is to have a number of injuries and finish up with 5 goals. That's why Solskjaer was so important for us and as responsible for our successes as the players starting every game.
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Pretty much my opinion. Over the course of the season Daniel Sturridge will be the deciding factor for us, barring a move for Fekir in January which seems unlikely given the reason we walked away.
He’s not going to hit his 13/14 level, he has nowhere near the legs and pace he had that season. However he doesn’t need it in order to make the impact we’ll need him to. His skill vision dribbling ability ball retention under pressure are all still top draw and if he can handle the physicality and stay fit he’ll be crucial.
 
RobinLFC said:
We've already beaten PSG in the CL and Spurs away from home though, whilst comfortably beating Soton without a few of our key players. It's say it's not that decisive for us - I'd take a draw at Chelsea and at Napoli, and don't care a zilch about the League Cup. Only game we should be winning is City, they are the favourites for the title and head to head games could be very important this season. Luckily they've been poor at Anfield in recent times and Klopp seems to have Pep's number. Long may it continue.
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Napoli are very beatable, dont think we should be content with a draw home or away. If we get 3 points we're pretty much set in terms of qualification to the round of 16.

Chelsea away, I'm of the same opinion as I was against Spurs. City beat them home and away last season and since that's the benchmark we should really be going for all 3 points. We are tailor made to beat sides like theirs.

City have a terrible record at Anfield, hope that doesnt mean they are due a win. We always seem to do well against them and I really wouldnt take their defenders or front 3 over any of ours If Mendy starts Salah is going to have a party down that right hand side but we have 3 other matches to play before then. So hopefully the good form continues.
 
Solius said:
I'm not saying they will win the league, but I've been thinking they're pretty much exactly what we used to be.

They play exciting attacking football and have a 'score one more than you' attitude. When Fergie was in charge I always believed we'd win even if we conceded three.

They have a mix of all the types of player needed:

- Young prospects playing regularly (TAA, Robertson, Gomez). We always had something like this but yes I'm aware we still do now.
- Players bought for decent money/shrewd signings who have turned into stars (Salah, Mane, Firmino). We used to do the same with players like Ronaldo, Vidic, Evra, Hernandez, Nani, Ruud, Rafael.
- Big money signings (VVD, Allison, Keita). People said all sorts of shit when we signed Rio for 30m and it did seem a lot of money at the time. Same thing happened when they paid 70m for VVD but it's a similar scenario.
- The hard-working players (Milner, Henderson). Just like how we had Fletcher, Park, etc...

They have that team cohesion, the amount of movement when they attack compared to ours is night and day. It's sad to see and it'll probably be a few years before we see much change in that area for us, whether that is with Mourinho or not.
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Bang on.
 
Gonna be up to City or Chelsea to stop that mob. Sickening that we have let them become the better side than us.
 
It's easy to get carried away by our results since the start of the season, but I'll remain casually optimistic until I've seen how we do against Chelsea and City. As good as it is that we've gotten 18/18, we haven't really played that well in the league, although I didn't see us against Southhampton. It'll be interesting to see how we deal with the the added pressure.
 
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I haven't seen them play this season but they definitely are getting the results. No matter what the opposition, they've put the points on board and it will be difficult to chase them.
 
Josh 76 said:
It had to happen one day. I'm 42, and when you get to that age, you realise there is more to life than football. I'm just so glad that when football was the only thing that mattered in my life during my 20s, we ruled the world. Thank you once again Sir Alex.
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Exactly, I’m 33 but feel the same way. If they’re in the mix, it will happen between my 30’s and 50’s - that’s something I have come to accept. Here’s to hoping they never will and that they go bankrupt next season, Klopp ending up at an insane asylum where he belongs.
 
Solius said:
I'm not saying they will win the league, but I've been thinking they're pretty much exactly what we used to be.

They play exciting attacking football and have a 'score one more than you' attitude. When Fergie was in charge I always believed we'd win even if we conceded three.

They have a mix of all the types of player needed:

- Young prospects playing regularly (TAA, Robertson, Gomez). We always had something like this but yes I'm aware we still do now.
- Players bought for decent money/shrewd signings who have turned into stars (Salah, Mane, Firmino). We used to do the same with players like Ronaldo, Vidic, Evra, Hernandez, Nani, Ruud, Rafael.
- Big money signings (VVD, Allison, Keita). People said all sorts of shit when we signed Rio for 30m and it did seem a lot of money at the time. Same thing happened when they paid 70m for VVD but it's a similar scenario.
- The hard-working players (Milner, Henderson). Just like how we had Fletcher, Park, etc...

They have that team cohesion, the amount of movement when they attack compared to ours is night and day. It's sad to see and it'll probably be a few years before we see much change in that area for us, whether that is with Mourinho or not.
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We made exactly the same comparisons about Brendan’s 13-14 side and this side is up against a much better challenger in City.

It’ll be close but the pressure will be huge and when fatigue sets in, a couple of dodgy results can change everything.
 
Pexbo said:
We made exactly the same comparisons about Brendan’s 13-14 side and this side is up against a much better challenger in City.

It’ll be close but the pressure will be huge and when fatigue sets in, a couple of dodgy results can change everything.
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Only if Guardiola has a meltdown (say, after their likely loss at Anfield). Otherwise, they'll hit 95 pts and that would be too much for Liverpool. Their potential in attack is way higher than Liverpool's as they have several young players who could make a big step forward (Sane, Sterling, Jesus, Bernardo) whereas Liverpool's forwards are in their prime and quantum jumps are unlikely.
 
Rob said:
It's easy to get carried away by our results since the start of the season, but I'll remain casually optimistic until I've seen how we do against Chelsea and City. As good as it is that we've gotten 18/18, we haven't really played that well in the league, although I didn't see us against Southhampton. It'll be interesting to see how we deal with the the added pressure.
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I'll second that. It's difficult to stay pessimistic at the moment. We're doing very well, but it's still early days. I'll wait too and see the outcome of these games, before believing we can do it.
 
The problem Liverpool have, as well, is that their style depends much on their physical shape. If they take care of it, it will pay dividends in the last rounds in CL. But if they put a big effort on the league as well, it will be incredibly hard for them to sustain a high level in both tournaments.

I think Klopp's style is particularly good for knock-out competitions so I don't see him wanting to discard CL, especially after what happened last season. That's why I think they will collapse in the league at some point.
 
In all fairness

If we beat Chelski and City, thats still only 8 games we've played!

There'd still be a lonnnnnnnnng way to go to being anywhere near to possible champions

I think we'll be favourites for it for sure if we beat them two but it certainly won't be a given
 
Treble said:
Their potential in attack is way higher than Liverpool's as they have several young players who could make a big step forward (Sane, Sterling, Jesus, Bernardo) whereas Liverpool's forwards are in their prime and quantum jumps are unlikely.
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True. We have a few youngsters in defence, who could improve though.

Squad depth could easily be the decisive factor. We have some good options in midfield, but we're only an injury away to VvD from fielding two of Lovren/Gomez/Matip as the CB pairing. No proper backups at the back positions too. And any of our front three would be very hard to miss. Especially Firmino, who makes it all tick imo. We're still short of quality options in defence and attack.
 
I'd have them as top favourites if they had no European football. But I can't see them competing for both the CL and the PL. Their journey to the CL final last season almost cost them a top 4 finish.
 
Klopper76 said:
Our next four games are:

Chelsea (h) CC
Chelsea (a) PL
Napoli (a) CL
Man City (h) PL

Time to see what we’re really made of.
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Kids/non-regulars for the CC game is all I hope for. Probably weak thinking to not want to compete for all four trophies we still have a chance of winning, but the CC is just... Meh, I'd rather give key players a little bit of a rest before those three tough fixtures.
 
Halds said:
True. We have a few youngsters in defence, who could improve though.

Squad depth could easily be the decisive factor. We have some good options in midfield, but we're only an injury away to VvD from fielding two of Lovren/Gomez/Matip as the CB pairing. No proper backups at the back positions too. And any of our front three would be very hard to miss. Especially Firmino, who makes it all tick imo. We're still short of quality options in defence and attack.
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True. The best thing about your squad is that you almost lack aging players apart from Milner. City have Fernandinho, D. Silva, Kompany and Aguero. United have Valencia, Young, Matic, Mata, Sanchez, Fellaini. This might be one of the reasons why United board were reluctant to sanction moves for experienced players this summer. Age wise Liverpool and Spurs are the best, Chelsea do not have many oldish players too.
 
GhastlyHun said:
When do City and Liverpool meet?
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Loads of teams get off to a cracking start and are seen as odds on favourites only to slip up.

Yes they are looking good but like us, they have a huge number of points to make up on City compared to last season.

At the end of the day it is up to us to take 6 points off them and then see how it pans out.

Which are the least worse - City or Liverpool?
 
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