That's a consistency thing though isn't it ? Chelsea had it in bucketloads in 2016/17 & we didn't. Nothing to do with playing games in midweek. We had a really poor January & early February that season which derailed whatever title challenge we had building. We've achieved periods of a having a good run of results even when we're playing regularly 3 times a week. On the flip side, we've had periods of not so good results even when we've played once a week.
Liverpool 2018/19
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That's a consistency thing though isn't it ? Chelsea had it in bucketloads in 2016/17 & we didn't. Nothing to do with playing games in midweek. We had a really poor January & early February that season which derailed whatever title challenge we had building. We've achieved periods of a having a good run of results even when we're playing regularly 3 times a week. On the flip side, we've had periods of not so good results even when we've played once a week.
Our Weakness is midfield.
The issue isn't the individual quality of the back ups its the fact they don't/can't play Klopps system as well.
An example was when Sturridge came on for Firmino yesterday. They immediately lost that front press/turnover threat in a system that can quickly fold if everyone is not on the same wavelength.
It is our 'weakest' area but this season it is overstated. Just by splashing some money in the summer the likes of Wijnaldum and Milner have gone on to another level that even they didn't realize they had.
Mark my words, at some stage this season Liverpool will implode.
Why wasn't Firmino's goal offside? Surely he came from an offside position, he was behind the goal line.
And the challenge on Son at the end was a penalty.
And the challenge on Son at the end was a penalty.
When Mane released the ball from his foot Firmino was onside. After that it was a free for all.
The question you should be asking is why was Firmino's first goal disallowed?
Because Mane was offside and interfering with play.
TBF that's more like pulling a Liecter or two, not quite the normal state of affairs.
erm... because Mane had been stood offside directly in front of the GK & the goal for the previous 10 minutes & then the ball whizzed just past the end of his foot
at a guess,
(they have tweaked the wording / interpretation of the rule again I think)
I thought Mane was interfering with play? His movement towards the ball would’ve impacted Vorm’s movement.
Mane made an attempt towards the ball in a clear offside position. Plus, the place he stood was "interfering with the play".
We've won 5 league title since Jose's first spell at Chelsea (14 years). Leicester like? Pfft!
Real Madrid only won 4 in that period. Leicester like?
But he didn't touch it. I know it's technically offside but those decisions will not be given against other teams. Not saying this is a conspiracy against us, other teams will benefit or suffer from ref inconsistencies.
If we both keep our 100% records going into our game in two weeks time that match is set to be a belter!
Can imagine it being a disgustingly open game
Can imagine it being a disgustingly open game
I swear 90% of the people I hear/read talking about us winning the league at this stage are the opposition fans.
Personally, I feel City are still by far the best team and so far Chelsea has shown the best form. Liverpool have been scraping the wins a bit, to be honest. Anyway, the next 3 weeks will show us how prepared we are to take on the top teams.
Personally, I feel City are still by far the best team and so far Chelsea has shown the best form. Liverpool have been scraping the wins a bit, to be honest. Anyway, the next 3 weeks will show us how prepared we are to take on the top teams.
Agreed. Btw do you see Sarri resting players for the League Cup tie? Also, given a choice would you prefer to win the PL game or LC?If we both keep our 100% records going into our game in two weeks time that match is set to be a belter!
Can imagine it being a disgustingly open game
I have no clue honestly! I think the LC will be a mixture of youth and second string players with a few of our main players potentially starting. I would prefer us to win the LC tie in the sense it will give us a lot more games for Hudson Odoi Ampadu etc
But then our league game is at Stamford Bridge so I guess that is definitely the more important tie
I'll be quite happy to mark your words, file them, & discuss them at a later date to see if you were right or wrong. Sadly, unlike you, I don't have the power to see into the future, so you have me at something of a disadvantage at the moment. We do need to ascertain though what your definition of 'implode' is. Is it something akin to United imploding last season after winning 7 & drawing 1 of their first 8 games ? Or is it Liverpool having a poor run of results the way they did a couple of seasons ago in mid-season ? Maybe it's a Stevie G type slip that will see us quickly go from title favourites to title chumps in a matter of minutes. Or perhaps you'll just see us as imploding if we simply fail to finish top of the pile come May despite achieving a healthy points total over the course of the season.
Yes I agree. Momentum is a big thing. City scored an incredible amount of late goals to win close matches in the early part of last season but all anyone remembers is them being utterly dominant (rightfully so). And the trend in recent years has been of a strong front runner being fast out of the gates and never looking back.
And sadly I do think this Liverpool team, when in a confident place, has the consistency and quality to go on beating the standard PL with regularity. So I'm looking at things like big teams taking points off them, a general loss of form/confidence over the season and most importantly a top contender competing with them. So I'm oddly thankful City are as strong as they are right now. Because I do think they are a better team than Liverpool. It has to reflect in results soon though.
RM have so many of those that if you steal one or two here and there it might not even be noticed in the cabinet, can't say the same about CFC or Leicester. CFC getting two would naturally seem more Leicester like than the other way.
I can't see Liverpool winning the league, not because they aren't a good side but because Man City are unbelievably strong.In my opinion this City side is as good as anything the Prem League has seen and I can't see any reason why City can't repeat the 100 points of last season. Ultimately Liverpool and Chelsea could be battling for 2nd place which is 15-20 points behind City.
Firmino missed training today. I wonder if it'll be a straight swap for Sturridge if he misses out? There's also the option to put Shaqiri in and move Salah into the middle.
Milner is their player of the season so far, for me. Absolute monster of a performance from him today, especially for the second goal - both the penalty and its build up.
Is it a better team than the 13-14 one that lost the title in the final three games of season?
Yes - that team was phenomenal in attack and dare I say it more unpredictable but it was a very top heavy team. This team is more structurally sound and an all round stronger side.
Definitely a deeper and more balanced squad, and a better manager. But if Salah continues to play as a shadow of himself from last season, they'll miss a player with Suarez-eqsue numbers. It'll be close.
Aye. Looking at the team we had versus Man City in 13/14 compared to the team we had tonight, you'd say the only two positions we haven't improved on are Coutinho (who was playing behind Sterling/Sturridge/Suarez) and Suarez.
You'd take Allison over Mignolet, you'd take Robertson/TAA over Flanagan/Johnson, VVD/anyone over Skrtel/Sakho, Mane over Sterling (at that point), Salah over Sturridge. Might get some stick from other Liverpool fans from saying it, but I'd take Milner over Gerrard at that point in his career. Hendo = Hendo
13/14 Suarez you take over anyone on the field on either nights. Coutinho over Gini, too (honestly I just lumped midfielders together).
Yeah he's been class. 101 games or so for us now, and he's been nothing other than solid for us. Rarely spectacular, but rarely less than a 6/10 or 7/10 performance.
We kicked off the 2013/14 season with an uninspiring 1-0 home win against Stoke. Our starting line-up that day line-up included the likes of Mignolet, Glen Johnson, Enrique, Kolo Toure, Lucas Leiva, & Aspas. Even taking into account Salah's sluggish start to this season & Suarez's return from suspension in 2013/14, this side & squad is head & shoulders above that one from 4 years ago. I think you'd be crazy to think that at some point soon Mo Salah won't pull himself out of this malaise. & whilst he may not hit the numbers he did from last season, he'll certainly improve, which in turn means the team will improve. Even at this stage last season there was no hint as to what was to come from the little Egyptian. 4 goals in 5 games was a decent return, but the team wasn't looking like a team that would eventually score the amount of goals it did, & reach the final of the CL. & Salah never looked like he'd be the goal-machine he became in his 2nd stint in the PL.
The 13/14 team conceded 50 goals in the league. I don’t think this side will do that.
That 13/14 side also scored 101 goals. I don’t think we’ve got those numbers in us this season.
That 13/14 side also scored 101 goals. I don’t think we’ve got those numbers in us this season.
Liverpool = CL finalists = Pot 3.
Someone was going to suffer for this shithousery.
Someone was going to suffer for this shithousery.
They're pretty good. Am trying to mentally prepare myself for the inevitable.
I can't be the only one that prefers City to win the league right?
I can't be the only one that prefers City to win the league right?
They look like what we used to be...
Doubt you would find any United fans who wouldn’t prefer City to win it over them.
Has Klopp instructed his earlier teams to dive too? or is it something the players just do against his say and he isn't condoning it?
Who dived tonight? I thought the challenge on Wijnaldum was a penalty.
Both Wijnaldum and Mane didn't dive but made much more of the fouls then there actually has been. Don't know if you can blame them for that, nowadays unfortunately nearly every footballer does this. I don't like it, but our players also do it.
But what Sturridge did was imo disgusting. It's alright that he tries to touch the ball and jump into the GK, that happens. But then not even giving a feck about Areola after kicking him like that and cheering with his teammates instead was terrible.
Yeah, a penalty is fair on the basis that it was extremely clumsy, but he went to ground easy at the same time, you'll have to admit. I can't remember specific situations but I'm pretty sure there was two, might have been Milner and Van Djik? and then it was Mané as well that went to ground at least two times without having to. One or two situations is expected in any game, but even though it seemed subtle because of the home crowd, i think its fear to be asking the question.
Yes, that was nasty. Looked really painful so to be ignoring that was weird, maybe he was afraid of being in the spotlight for it because he knew it was wrong? Im not saying he did it on purpose, but imagine it was Ramos and most Liverpoolfans wouldn't have a doubt in their mind it was intentional
Not even sure Gini expected the penalty. He didn’t appeal, and he was up and after the ball again as soon as he was tripped/ fell over.
Thought the ref did well in the end. Consistent, if nothing else.
Really reaching there. No one has mentioned anything about diving.
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