Liverpool 2018/19

By how many points will Liverpool win the title this season?

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Avoiding defeat really isn't that huge a deal in a title race so I don't know why they keep going on about it.

You're better off winning one and losing than drawing both.

Liverpool only lost 2 games in 2008/2009, we lost 4 times. Still beat them to the title.
 
Still theirs to lose. I'm preparing for the worst, in my mind They won it in January.
 
these MotD highlights seemed to show that Everton were a bit fortunate

is that fair?
How so? Don't think they were fortunate, if anything they looked like they wanted it more than we did. We failed to take the very few chances we got, than Klopp made some rather pointless substitutions and we never looked winning it late in the game, before it hit the 80-minute mark I knew we wouldn't score anymore. I really don't get why anyone would say this is a good result at Goodison, it's 2 points dropped instead of 1 gained. Most players came out with weird post-game comments as well (apart from Van Dijk), if not being top anymore is what it takes to make them playing well again I'm gonna start questioning their mentality.

I'm a bit gutted even if I never expected us to stay ahead of City anyway.

Really dreading how important our game against City might be, for the title and top 4.
Certainly looks like it, it seems by far the most difficult game City has left this season. Could be an amazing game with lots of tension if you keep up your current form and Arsenal keeps winning as well. I think Ole might be torn inside but ultimately I think he'd rather win to secure top 4 than jeopardize his own chances just not to see us go back top again. However though, if Liverpool doesn't improve their play very very quickly I think City might even afford a loss at Old Trafford.
 
Avoiding defeat really isn't that huge a deal in a title race so I don't know why they keep going on about it.

You're better off winning one and losing than drawing both.

Liverpool only lost 2 games in 2008/2009, we lost 4 times. Still beat them to the title.

Exactly. In a title race it’s not the losses that will cost you, but the draws.
 
Mourinho pinpoints the Leicester game as the day they lost control of their destiny. It was an appalling performance.
 
How so? Don't think they were fortunate, if anything they looked like they wanted it more than we did. We failed to take the very few chances we got, than Klopp made some rather pointless substitutions and we never looked winning it late in the game, before it hit the 80-minute mark I knew we wouldn't score anymore. I really don't get why anyone would say this is a good result at Goodison, it's 2 points dropped instead of 1 gained. Most players came out with weird post-game comments as well (apart from Van Dijk), if not being top anymore is what it takes to make them playing well again I'm gonna start questioning their mentality.

I'm a bit gutted even if I never expected us to stay ahead of City anyway
Everton were somewhat fortunate Salah wasn't sharper. Should have scored yesterday.
 
Looking at their fixtures, they have 9 left.
Southampton and Fulham will play into their hands.
They will dispose of Cardiff, Huddersfield, Newcastle.

So that leaves Burnley (h), Spurs(h), Chelsea(h), Wolves (h).

Their toughest games are at home and I reckon they win at least 2 of them. I wouldnt be surprised if they win 7 of the last 9 and draw the other 2.
 
Looking at their fixtures, they have 9 left.
Southampton and Fulham will play into their hands.
They will dispose of Cardiff, Huddersfield, Newcastle.

So that leaves Burnley (h), Spurs(h), Chelsea(h), Wolves (h).

Their toughest games are at home and I reckon they win at least 2 of them. I wouldnt be surprised if they win 7 of the last 9 and draw the other 2.
On first sight I'd take that in a heartbeat, since it would put us at 93 points. However, I think even such a return won't be enough to overtake City.
 
On first sight I'd take that in a heartbeat, since it would put us at 93 points. However, I think even such a return won't be enough to overtake City.

City got three tough games in a row (and may have cup games complicating things)

So from their league games left, they should beat watford, fulham and cardiff.
But then palace away, spurs at home and then United away followed by Burnley away. Thats 4 tough games in a row (which will be 14 days.) - this stretch of games decides the title imo as liverpool will have come off facing Spurs and will be playing chelsea the same time. (So end march / beginning April should see dropped points)


City should beat Leicester and Brighton to end the season

Its a 1 point difference but Liverpool have the better run in with less than 10 games to go.
 
I still feel if we are within 1-2 points of City going into the last few games we can do it.

City have a four game period where they play three away games at Palace, United and Burnley with Spurs in there at home. If they come out of that with 12 points then fair play!
 
People make far too much of fixtures before they happen as if they are results that are set in stone yet they haven’t even been played yet.

Football doesn’t work like that and we all love it. City could thrash us and lose to Fulham.

Liverpool could go on a nervy run of draws and losses now.

It’s why we all love the game. Going for the title isn’t as simple as “Easy fixtures for that team but not the other team.”

What I’m saying is obvious but this predictions lark is a mug’s game.

No one expected Liverpool to draw at Everton without even scoring. But it happened.
 
There going to bottle it, away from home, got 2 tough ones, spurs and the toon. Also wolves at home last game won't be easy, there going to show they belong in the prem. As for city just think they have to much of a squad to blow it. There toughest fixture is against us I think.. Going for city by 4 pts
 
In that thread 'Weird feelings of football'.....one guy posted, quite a while back, (to paraphrase):

I cannot accept that Mo Salah is in fact a world class footballer. In my head, he's a decent player who has undergone one of the most incredible purple patches in football history.

This season, that has actually rung true, hasn't it?

I mean, pre-Liverpool, what was Salah? A good attacker playing in Serie A with a good goal return, but he was not seen as potential world-class material. Neither was he before Roma.

Perhaps that is actually true, and last season was simply a perfect storm for Salah.
 
In that thread 'Weird feelings of football'.....one guy posted, quite a while back, (to paraphrase):

I cannot accept that Mo Salah is in fact a world class footballer. In my head, he's a decent player who has undergone one of the most incredible purple patches in football history.

This season, that has actually rung true, hasn't it?

I mean, pre-Liverpool, what was Salah? A good attacker playing in Serie A with a good goal return, but he was not seen as potential world-class material. Neither was he before Roma.

Perhaps that is actually true, and last season was simply a perfect storm for Salah.

He has 17 league goals and 7 league assists this season, he's in a bad run of form where his touch and general play has fallen to bits, but you can tell its confidence related. He'll likely end up one of the most productive players in the league and 2 seasons can hardly be described as a purple patch.

I don't think he was ever going to keep up the levels of last season (he was not that far off messi/ronaldo tier production wise) but I definitely think he's still in the world class footballer bracket, unless your definition of that is very strict.
 
Some liverpool fans are getting excited for Oxlade chamberlain's return. Is he really that good? I thought he was another one of Wenger's failed 'English' projects.
 
Some liverpool fans are getting excited for Oxlade chamberlain's return. Is he really that good? I thought he was another one of Wenger's failed 'English' projects.
He was great for them last season and it’s clear they miss his creativity in that area of the pitch. Hopefully he doesn’t get going again until next season at the earliest.
 
Some liverpool fans are getting excited for Oxlade chamberlain's return. Is he really that good? I thought he was another one of Wenger's failed 'English' projects.
As a cm he's excellent, imo. Even at arsenal he was brilliant as a cm but, for whatever reason, he hardly played there for Wenger.

To me,it was obvious back in the early 2010s in their home leg against AC Milan where he did play as one that he could make that position his own and, having been given the chance, did that at Liverpool.

I think he's the type of CM we should be looking at at partnering Pogba and one of Matic/Herrera.
 
Couldn't believe the reaction from some Everton - & United - supporters in work today. 1 point behind City with still 27 points left to play for, & our title challenge is now over according to some of them.

Crazy people.

It’s not just this result. Your form has been far from title form since the turn of the year.

It’s been City’s title since they beat you at their place.
 
It’s not just this result. Your form has been far from title form since the turn of the year.

It’s been City’s title since they beat you at their place.
It’s still very much in the balance though. One more result like they had against Palace, Leicester or Newcastle and it swings back again.

My dream scenario is that we win all of our remaining games and United are the ones who take the necessary points from City to give us the title.
 
It’s still very much in the balance though. One more result like they had against Palace, Leicester or Newcastle and it swings back again.

My dream scenario is that we win all of our remaining games and United are the ones who take the necessary points from City to give us the title.

I can see City dropping points in the run in but I still don’t see them losing it. Liverpool’s results have started to reflect their performances since the turn of the year. I don’t see you getting that momentum back.
 
Liverpool fans are their own worst enemies. There is so much pressure on them to win that highly anticipated league title from scousers to ex players/ pundits and its taking a toll because they aren't used to it. Klopp is struggling from what I see.

Guardiola, though, is that good a manager be it tactically or keeping his players mentally focused. He's gone against tradition and selected strong teams against lower league clubs in cup competitions. For some this is risky or negligible (fitness, injuries) but imo it has just strengthened them. I'm certain City will win the league and have been for a while. I think they'll drop points but not as many as Liverpool will.
 
It’s still very much in the balance though. One more result like they had against Palace, Leicester or Newcastle and it swings back again.

My dream scenario is that we win all of our remaining games and United are the ones who take the necessary points from City to give us the title.
Rest assured, someone will do a Gerrard
 
It’s still very much in the balance though. One more result like they had against Palace, Leicester or Newcastle and it swings back again.

My dream scenario is that we win all of our remaining games and United are the ones who take the necessary points from City to give us the title.

You've dropped points in 8 games, City in 6. If they have one more result like Newcastle, you are likely to have one more result like Wham, or two. Actually, not beating one out of Spurs and Chelsea might suffice. You haven't had serious injuries to your key players yet: VVD, Robertson and the front 3. Not sure you are likely to stay that fortunate until the end. Those 5 have played (much) more football than the City counterparts even though City are in all compets. It's still in the balance but maybe 60-40 City now.
 
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Some liverpool fans are getting excited for Oxlade chamberlain's return. Is he really that good? I thought he was another one of Wenger's failed 'English' projects.

Pinning their hopes on Ox is a pipedream regardless of how good he could be. He damaged multiple ligaments and a hamstring tendon from a normal coming together. It was a horrifuc injury. He will likely need a few months to get back up to speed and only a factor next season after he gets a preseason under his belt. There is also a chance that he returns a lesser player because the integrity of his knee was obliterated.
 
Some liverpool fans are getting excited for Oxlade chamberlain's return. Is he really that good? I thought he was another one of Wenger's failed 'English' projects.
It's not so much that he's a brilliant player or anything, but he's just the kind of player we're in desperate need of right now, i.e. someone who can link our midfield and attacking play.

Like already said though, you can't expect a player coming back from such an injury to hit the ground running. He might feature in the last few games of the season but it's unreasonable to expect him to push us over the finish line.
 
Couldn't believe the reaction from some Everton - & United - supporters in work today. 1 point behind City with still 27 points left to play for, & our title challenge is now over according to some of them.

Crazy people.

Probably just trying to wind you up.
 
Salah is an interesting one, considering Mane is almost an identical kind of player.

But you can see why Cheaty Mo is the one pushing for World class level - when to stand still after your skill & pace has done the business first up, seems most obvious. But has gone missing a little bit for him atm, it would seem.

Strangely, given the choice, I think I'd prefer marking Salah, easier to get close to him (like Shaw did). He isn't going to bounce off you & chase his own flick. And Mane is a fair bit nastier too, I'd have one eye on Sadio leaving his foot in.

Is it possible that nasty accidental shoulder injury is still a factor? Going in where it's busy & there's some muck & bullets flying around. Even a subconscious loss of bottle - in the confidence sense even, he's not untouchable any more & not everything is going in. Every player has their peak, innit?

And they are definitely more conservative in some kind of way - even if it's just having a better defence.
 
It’s still very much in the balance though. One more result like they had against Palace, Leicester or Newcastle and it swings back again.

My dream scenario is that we win all of our remaining games and United are the ones who take the necessary points from City to give us the title.
It only looks like it's in the balance because you were so far ahead at one stage that the points differential now makes it out to be neck and neck.
It's like Utd and top 4 v Arsenal. Everyone looks at the games we have left saying Arsenal will only drop points here and here so it'll be tight etc. That completely ignores the white hot momentum that we have and the amount of games Arsenal had to drop points in for us to overtake them. We are not at the same starting point for the run in and neither are you two.
The team that overwhelmingly looks as if they'll drop points is Liverpool. City are cruising it at the minute.
 
Any surprise loss is close to catastrophic now though. Say for Liverpool in particular, how do they get 4pts (5 pts with the GD) back over only 8 games or fewer. Some of the 8 games are going to be strolls too.

OTOH Liverpool could lead by 2 with only 8 left. They have only lost once, hope of their complete demise is a little bit premature for me.
 
Any surprise loss is close to catastrophic now though. Say for Liverpool in particular, how do they get 4pts (5 pts with the GD) back over only 8 games or fewer. Some of the 8 games are going to be strolls too.

OTOH Liverpool could lead by 2 with only 8 left. They have only lost once, hope of their complete demise is a little bit premature for me.

After 15 games City were 2 points ahead.

They have lost 4 games since. Including to Palace at home.

After all that bad form they have ended up 1 point ahead.

They lost 4 games out of 8 in Jan and Dec. In the previous 53 games they lost only 2 games.

City are lucky to be back in it. Just like in 2012 and 2014.
 
Going to be full on honest here.....

I said at the start of the season I'd take second. The best team in the league wins the league. Simples as.

....and Man City are the best team in the league.

You can win cups, as a good side. We're a good side. But no one in this country is winning this league until Pep get's bored/rundown and buggers off.

This season has been a massive improvement, but to take 26 points out of a side as good as City would be almost up there as Leicester winning it.

De Bruyne, or Fernandinho being injured should not matter, if we win the title I want to know we're the best team in the league, and we just plain old aren't. Don't want to win be default.

We came closer than I thought we would, and again to be honest.....regardless of the above.......it's that hope that kills you.
 
I can see City dropping points in the run in but I still don’t see them losing it. Liverpool’s results have started to reflect their performances since the turn of the year. I don’t see you getting that momentum back.
Yeah true but football can swing back and forth. We looked pretty good in December and our fixtures aren't the worst.
You've dropped points in 8 games, City in 6. If they have one more result like Newcastle, you are likely to have one more result like Wham, or two. Actually, not beating one out of Spurs and Chelsea might suffice. You haven't had serious injuries to your key players yet: VVD, Robertson and the front 3. Not sure you are likely to stay that fortunate until the end. Those 5 have played (much) more football than the City counterparts even though City are in all compets. It's still in the balance but maybe 60-40 City now.
Yeah true. I'm hoping we pick up form between now and the end of the season obviously. If we do win it it'll require another swing from where things are at now.
It only looks like it's in the balance because you were so far ahead at one stage that the points differential now makes it out to be neck and neck.
It's like Utd and top 4 v Arsenal. Everyone looks at the games we have left saying Arsenal will only drop points here and here so it'll be tight etc. That completely ignores the white hot momentum that we have and the amount of games Arsenal had to drop points in for us to overtake them. We are not at the same starting point for the run in and neither are you two.
The team that overwhelmingly looks as if they'll drop points is Liverpool. City are cruising it at the minute.
I'm hoping that changes. In December we were looking formidable and City a bit uncertain. City are favorites though for sure.
 
Some liverpool fans are getting excited for Oxlade chamberlain's return. Is he really that good? I thought he was another one of Wenger's failed 'English' projects.
We need something creative in centre mid. Henderson, Gina, Fabinho and Milner are all similar. Ox gives something different and is an experienced pro so always good to have him back and could give the team a much needed boost in that area.
 
In that thread 'Weird feelings of football'.....one guy posted, quite a while back, (to paraphrase):

I cannot accept that Mo Salah is in fact a world class footballer. In my head, he's a decent player who has undergone one of the most incredible purple patches in football history.

This season, that has actually rung true, hasn't it?

I mean, pre-Liverpool, what was Salah? A good attacker playing in Serie A with a good goal return, but he was not seen as potential world-class material. Neither was he before Roma.

Perhaps that is actually true, and last season was simply a perfect storm for Salah.
What is a world class footballer? He is quality. His form over the last 2 seasons has been stellar but he's suffering a small bit as is the whole team since Xmas. I hope he can find his form again.
 
It’s not just this result. Your form has been far from title form since the turn of the year.

It’s been City’s title since they beat you at their place.
It's very rare that a team doesnt have a blip in a title challenge. Liverpool have dipped in form since Xmas but with good management they could pick up again. I wouldn't call this title yet at all but at the same time city are definitely favorites.
 
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