Liverpool 2018/19

By how many points will Liverpool win the title this season?

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Had a fantastic evening watching Liverpool lose yesterday. All this talk of them winning the league, Lovren coming out and saying we can be invincible, Klopp saying he’s enjoying this moment is just brilliant for me. I am hoping the wheels fall off for them now. Thought they bottled it last night. PL champions win games like that. Although it was a great game to watch.
 
Liverpool fans waking up this morning must feel like crap. I know the usual stuff they will be coming out with like, "if someone told us at the start of the season we would be 4 points clear in Jan, we would give our right arm..."
Also some of them saying it's only one defeat and it's to the Champions.

But one thing that sticks out is, Klopp bottled it again. This was a chance to win the title against a team bang out of form and confidence. Klopp has been doing this on a regular basis. Even though I hate him, I respect him as a coach. But I'm starting to wonder if has he got the minerals to get over the line.
 
Liverpool fans waking up this morning must feel like crap. I know the usual stuff they will be coming out with like, "if someone told us at the start of the season we would be 4 points clear in Jan, we would give our right arm..."
Also some of them saying it's only one defeat and it's to the Champions.

But one thing that sticks out is, Klopp bottled it again. This was a chance to win the title against a team bang out of form and confidence. Klopp has been doing this on a regular basis. Even though I hate him, I respect him as a coach. But I'm starting to wonder if has he got the minerals to get over the line.

We lost 2-1 to the reigning champions. at their own stadium! How is that bottling it?
And here I thought the 76 in your name was your birth year not your IQ points.
 
We lost 2-1 to the reigning champions. at their own stadium! How is that bottling it?
And here I thought the 76 in your name was your birth year not your IQ points.

It is though. You had them on the ropes and yesterday might prove to be crucial to who wins the league. A win would have you 10 points clear, which would be very, very hard to make up considering you lot hardly drop any points.

That being said, City was pretty lucky yesterday and Kompany should had been sent off for that challenge on Salah
 
We lost 2-1 to the reigning champions. at their own stadium! How is that bottling it?
And here I thought the 76 in your name was your birth year not your IQ points.
Your response is exactly my point.
This wasn't a normal league game, this was a game to win the title for you guys. Yes, that's right, a game to win the title for the first time in 29 years. Just think for one second what that is.

Klopp and your team fecked it like they have in every major game they have played since Klopp has been your manager.

I know it's hard to take celebrating the title, without actually wining it. But you must be use to that after 2014.
 
Had a fantastic evening watching Liverpool lose yesterday. All this talk of them winning the league, Lovren coming out and saying we can be invincible, Klopp saying he’s enjoying this moment is just brilliant for me. I am hoping the wheels fall off for them now. Thought they bottled it last night. PL champions win games like that. Although it was a great game to watch.

Not really.

PL champions lose very few games, and the games they do lose tend to be exactly like that - tense, tight affairs against their closest opposition. In Chelsea's first title-winning season under Mourinho, they lost only one game but drew twice against 2nd placed Arsenal. In 07/08 we lost against Chelsea in the 3rd last game of the season, finishing just 2 pts ahead of them in the end. In City's 2nd title they lost against Liverpool in April and finished just 2 points ahead in the end.

City were the favourites to win the game, and yet Liverpool remain the favourites to win the league after that loss. So PL champions are expected to lose games like that, once in a while.
 
They'll be fine, if anything they'll take even more confidence from that performance going forward. They are ready to go all the way but City are better on paper (De Bryune for your thought).
 


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Liverpool fans waking up this morning must feel like crap. I know the usual stuff they will be coming out with like, "if someone told us at the start of the season we would be 4 points clear in Jan, we would give our right arm..."
Also some of them saying it's only one defeat and it's to the Champions.

But one thing that sticks out is, Klopp bottled it again. This was a chance to win the title against a team bang out of form and confidence. Klopp has been doing this on a regular basis. Even though I hate him, I respect him as a coach. But I'm starting to wonder if has he got the minerals to get over the line.

How delusional are you? Wow, some of you guys never cease to amaze me. City looked very sharp and confident yesterday, they played like their life was on the line and close enough IMO.

I guess as Palace miraculously got the win at Etihad, now every team is supposed to get 3 points there, right? City is still the best team in the PL and it's inevitable that even the best teams go through rough patches, it will eventually happen to Liverpool too and then it's in City's hands to capitalize on that.

I don't think Liverpool was that good yesterday either, but you make it look like they played against effing Fulham.
Games between top teams are always close and little things matter, this could've easily gone either way as City looked sharper, but didn't create that much.
 
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Look at the computer generated shadow of the computer generated ball as it sits over a computer generated goal line. Bonus points for genuinely believing that all shadows sit perfectly underneath whatever object is casting them, otherwise they don't exist.
 
It's a brief moment of joy for us United fans after months of seeing you lot win good and win shit to be top of the league and scare us.

I suspect you'll dick Brighton and palace and the fear will return.

Yeh fair one mate
 
It was certainly a cracking game

A battle

City deserved it, we just weren’t quite there

There wasn’t all that much in it chances wise between the two, City were just more clinical

We had the Mane opportunity, ball being cleared off the line and a great save from the keeper with Salahs chance

They were better but with some chances during the game that score could have still gone either way.

Disappointing, but hardly a major upset, nobody “expects” to go to City and get a result, although I was hopeful.

Certainly makes for an even more entertaining Title race for the neutrals

I keep hearing that "City deserved it" and i'm really not sure they did...

They had numerous fairly lucky escapes with Ederson dicking around, they should have had a man sent-off, and they only really got chances on the break once you lot started pushing forward (which is to be expected).
 
I keep hearing that "City deserved it" and i'm really not sure they did...

They had numerous fairly lucky escapes with Ederson dicking around, they should have had a man sent-off, and they only really got chances on the break once you lot started pushing forward (which is to be expected).
They had the upper hand in the general flow the game (to be expected at home) but I also felt we had the better chances - two goal-line clearances, inside of the post, good safe by Ederson on the Salah chance and so on. I don't think City had a goal attempt before they scored their first goal, but that's what you get with a striker like Aguero.

On another day we win or at least draw that game, but I won't forget that we were lucky in the Anfield game against them, so it is what it is. If anything, I think we can take some confidence out of yesterday's game (and hopefully Klopp also that Lovren isn't good enough).
 
Don't see it making much difference to be honest.
Liverpool have looked solid in all their other games, our biggest hope is 'burn-out' but that didn't really happen last season. I still see City as more likely to drop points going forward.
 
Don't see it making much difference to be honest.
Liverpool have looked solid in all their other games, our biggest hope is 'burn-out' but that didn't really happen last season. I still see City as more likely to drop points going forward.

I’m sorry but this is complete bunkum. They’ve had a great December but go back further than that - back to September and October, to be more precise - and they weren’t playing well and were quite fortunate on many occasions to get points, e.g. Benteke’s 90th minute sitter v Palace, Sturridge’s once-in-a-career hit v Chelsea in injury-time, Mahrez’s penalty miss at Anfield etc.

We won’t know for sure the full extent of yesterday’s loss until Liverpool next play but there’s just as good a chance that it derails their momentum as they have at bouncing back immediately with five or six wins on the run.
 
Interesting what Kompany said afterwards. Along the lines of Liverpool being the most physical team in the league and City had to match them. Probably meant in terms of their intensity and pressing, fitness levels off the charts like when Mourinho said watching Robertson was making him tired.

Klopp has hell of a back-room/medical staff behind him. Think he brought in some Bayern guys?

Anyway, really interesting title race now. If Liverpool can continue to be injury free with their key players, I think they'll do it.
 
It is though. You had them on the ropes and yesterday might prove to be crucial to who wins the league. A win would have you 10 points clear, which would be very, very hard to make up considering you lot hardly drop any points.

That being said, City was pretty lucky yesterday and Kompany should had been sent off for that challenge on Salah

Lets face it, City had no option other than to win last night, & it showed in the intensity of their play. Sometimes they were like men possessed. I think it was Bernardo Silva who gave a short celebration with a fist-clench near the end of the game when the ball went out for a City throw. That's how much it meant to them. The big question for us, is how are we going to respond to our unbeaten league run coming to an end ? Maybe the distraction of the FA Cup has come at a good time for us. All-in-all - Lovren & Salah excluded - I thought we put in a pretty good performance against a side with the quality City have, playing on their own patch, & having a need for victory that was far greater than ours.
 
Don't see it making much difference to be honest.
Liverpool have looked solid in all their other games, our biggest hope is 'burn-out' but that didn't really happen last season. I still see City as more likely to drop points going forward.

Eh? Liverpool were a bit naff for a while but were still picking up results, which is where the murmurings of a title challenge started to become something more. They've been incredibly fortunate in a few matches too. Pickford dropping the ball and Mahrez's penalty miss spring instantly to mind. Without those two moments they're not sat top by four points, they're second by a point.
 
Lets face it, City had no option other than to win last night, & it showed in the intensity of their play. Sometimes they were like men possessed. I think it was Bernardo Silva who gave a short celebration with a fist-clench near the end of the game when the ball went out for a City throw. That's how much it meant to them. The big question for us, is how are we going to respond to our unbeaten league run coming to an end ? Maybe the distraction of the FA Cup has come at a good time for us. All-in-all - Lovren & Salah excluded - I thought we put in a pretty good performance against a side with the quality City have, playing on their own patch, & having a need for victory that was far greater than ours.

Of course it was a must-win game for them more than it was for you, but still: Games like that often decide who lifts the trophy at the end of the season. I still think Liverpool will win it though. IIRC you have only 1 away game left against top 6 teams and that is us at OT, where as City have several tough ones to go
 
A tight game that could have gone either way imo. City had a slight dominance on the ball, but we had our opportunities to take a point or even win it. They were a little sharper on the day, so can't complain about the result.

How this will pan out is everybodys guess. Looking forward to an intense title race from now on.
 
Still think that they are going to win it. While it will obviously suck, on long term, City winning it might me more damaging to us. City with Saint Pep can become a dynasty like us in the nineties, Liverpool don't have the ability to do so. The more titles City wins, the more stronger their aura of invincibility will become.
 
This is what a title race is all about. No one knows anything about what's going to happen, but everyone has their opinions on how Liverpool will react. Fans will say whatever makes them feel better. We at Utd had it for 25 years and realised nothing is guaranteed, from clawing back a 12 point deficit to blowing a 8 point lead with 6 games to go. All I can say, you can look at your remaining fixtures, look at your past title challenges, look at if your Manager has been their before, look at your players last few games, it doesn't mean feck all. This is what Fergie called 'Squeaky bum time'. There will be many highs and lows, sleepless nights, analysing pundits thoughts and computer data predictions. Welcome to a title run in my friends. No one said it was going to be easy.
 
Still think that they are going to win it. While it will obviously suck, on long term, City winning it might me more damaging to us. City with Saint Pep can become a dynasty like us in the nineties, Liverpool don't have the ability to do so. The more titles City wins, the more stronger their aura of invincibility will become.

Don't think Pep sticks around long enough for a dynasty. Klopp is more likely to stay long term imo.
 
Don't think Pep sticks around long enough for a dynasty. Klopp is more likely to stay long term imo.
Liverpool don't have the finances to become a dynasty. They might win a title or two, but then will need to rebuild the team which is easier said than done. City on the other hand have more money than any other club in addition to the best coach in the world, so they can go in a run winning many titles.

Obviously would prefer Liverpool to not win it though. It will be hilarious just for their reactions and I won't be able to stand the wankfest of their fans and army of pundits.
 
Not really.

PL champions lose very few games, and the games they do lose tend to be exactly like that - tense, tight affairs against their closest opposition. In Chelsea's first title-winning season under Mourinho, they lost only one game but drew twice against 2nd placed Arsenal. In 07/08 we lost against Chelsea in the 3rd last game of the season, finishing just 2 pts ahead of them in the end. In City's 2nd title they lost against Liverpool in April and finished just 2 points ahead in the end.

City were the favourites to win the game, and yet Liverpool remain the favourites to win the league after that loss. So PL champions are expected to lose games like that, once in a while.
Bang on.
There wasnt much between both teams,Worryingly there wasnt really a blue print to beat liverpool either.
 
Liverpool don't have the finances to become a dynasty. They might win a title or two, but then will need to rebuild the team which is easier said than done. City on the other hand have more money than any other club in addition to the best coach in the world, so they can go in a run winning many titles.

Obviously would prefer Liverpool to not win it though. It will be hilarious just for their reactions and I won't be able to stand the wankfest of their fans and army of pundits.

True.

And yeah, anyone but Liverpool. It will be horrible to watch, and I think they can do it this season.
 
Still think that they are going to win it. While it will obviously suck, on long term, City winning it might me more damaging to us. City with Saint Pep can become a dynasty like us in the nineties, Liverpool don't have the ability to do so. The more titles City wins, the more stronger their aura of invincibility will become.

Pep's already got his eye on managing a team in Qatar, he's not a dynasty manager. City, like every team, will have a bit of a rebuild on their hands soon too, and you can't guarantee that money is the answer. Kompany, Silva, Fernandinho and Aguero won't be around forever.
 
I’m sorry but this is complete bunkum. They’ve had a great December but go back further than that - back to September and October, to be more precise - and they weren’t playing well and were quite fortunate on many occasions to get points, e.g. Benteke’s 90th minute sitter v Palace, Sturridge’s once-in-a-career hit v Chelsea in injury-time, Mahrez’s penalty miss at Anfield etc.

We won’t know for sure the full extent of yesterday’s loss until Liverpool next play but there’s just as good a chance that it derails their momentum as they have at bouncing back immediately with five or six wins on the run.

Looking at it through rose tinted glasses there. You could go through every teams' games and say "oh if he'd scored". The Chelsea game we had loads of chances to score and ended up scoring the hardest one of all. What bout yesterday the goal almost crossing the line? Kompany's lunge? Does that not count because it's in our favour i guess. There's been enough moments in games which haven't gone for us this season but because we've won anyway a big deal isn't made about it.
 
Of course it was a must-win game for them more than it was for you, but still: Games like that often decide who lifts the trophy at the end of the season. I still think Liverpool will win it though. IIRC you have only 1 away game left against top 6 teams and that is us at OT, where as City have several tough ones to go

Yeah, United is the only away match we face against a top 6 side now. After the Brighton game next weekend, where we'll still be top irrespective of the result, we have 9 home games & 7 away left to play. On paper that puts us in a strong position. But it'll mean nothing if we don't capitalize on it. & I guess that's what everyone will be watching, & waiting, to see. Squeaky bum time indeed.
 
Looking at it through rose tinted glasses there. You could go through every teams' games and say "oh if he'd scored". The Chelsea game we had loads of chances to score and ended up scoring the hardest one of all. What bout yesterday the goal almost crossing the line? Kompany's lunge? Does that not count because it's in our favour i guess. There's been enough moments in games which haven't gone for us this season but because we've won anyway a big deal isn't made about it.

Buchan rates our midfield is 'utter shite', thinks VVD is a 'spoofer' and TAA over-rated. All of which could be true, but he doesn't seem the most balanced when it comes to things Liverpool.

But, you're right, you win some and lose some. Our goal incorrectly given offside v Arsenal, Kompany red last night and we would be 12 points clear. It doesn't work like that, though. There's a coulda, woulda, shoulda in every game in every season.
 
Sometimes when I read redcafe I think I should go visit England someday to see and hear all those horrible LFC-supporting relatives, neighbors, friends and colleagues of yours.

Anyway, yesterday's game was close, despite some people here fail to acknowledge it. We had our chances, they had theirs. Not many clear cut ones on both sides. The difference between Mane's and Sane's strikes is a few degrees angle.
Hope Gomez will return soon, Lovren is not good enough.
It's still ours to lose, we'll see what happens next. No point in predicting anything until end of March.
 
Of course it was a must-win game for them more than it was for you, but still: Games like that often decide who lifts the trophy at the end of the season. I still think Liverpool will win it though. IIRC you have only 1 away game left against top 6 teams and that is us at OT, where as City have several tough ones to go

Both teams have United away, with the only difference being that City have Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs at home, while Liverpool have Chelsea and Spurs. That's it.
 
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