Liverpool - 2017/18

They have actually been good defensively for quite awhile unfortunately. Had something like a bunch of clean sheets in a row.

In 2018, their best run of games without conceding is 2 games.

Whole season their best rum of games without conceding is 2 games.
 
Interesting that the moral outragers seem to have disappeared on this one.

Here's hoping for a swift, full recovery. What a bunch of cnuts those Roma fans are.

Isn't it just. Plenty to say when a bus gets hit by missiles, but total silence when an innocent Liverpool supporter ends up in hospital after getting attacked by oppo fans. Now if it was a 53 year Roma fan fighting for his life.............
 
In 2018, their best run of games without conceding is 2 games.

Whole season their best rum of games without conceding is 2 games.

In 2018 in all comps

Liverpool have conceded 19 goals in 21 games

United have conceded 11 goals in 20 games

City have conceded 20 in 23 games

Spurs have conceded 21 in 23 games

Chelsea have conceded 21 in 23 games

Arsenal have conceded 34 in 23 games!!!

Bayern Munich have conceded 18 in 21 games

Barca have conceded 19 in 27 games

R Madrid have conceded 32 in 26 games!!!!

This year so far As you can see, Liverpool aren't amongst the worst defensively with regards to conceded goals to games played ratio
Real Madrids Defensive stats is absolutely mind numbingly appalling
 
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In 2018 in all comps

Liverpool have conceded 14 goals in 21 games

United have conceded 11 goals in 20 games

City have conceded 20 in 23 games

Spurs have conceded 21 in 23 games

Chelsea have conceded 21 in 23 games

Arsenal have conceded 34 in 23 games!!!

Bayern Munich have conceded 18 in 21 games

Barca have conceded 19 in 27 games

R Madrid have conceded 32 in 26 games!!!!

This year so far As you can see, Liverpool are amongst the best defensively with regards to conceded goals to games played ratio
Real Madrids Defensive stats is absolutely mind numbingly appalling

Point was about cleansheets,

Anyways in 2018, Liverpool have conceded 19 goals.
 
Point was about cleansheets,

Anyways in 2018, Liverpool have conceded 19 goals.

Massively miss counted that, amended :)

We still aren't amongst the worse defensively though, clean sheets aside ;)

United record is pretty amazing this year I must say
 
So, if Liverpool progresses to the finals and lose out on the CL trophy, will it be a successful season, for them? I'm sure nobody expected them to reach the finals.
 
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Massively miss counted that, amended :)

We still aren't amongst the worse defensively though, clean sheets aside ;)

United record is pretty amazing this year I must say

With your figures and the correct Liverpool figure:

United 0.55 conceded goals per game
Barca 0.7 conceded goals per game
Bayern 0.86 conceded goals per game
City 0.87 conceded goals per game
Spurs 0.91 conceded goals per game
Chelsea 0.91 conceded goals per game
Liverpool 0.95 conceded goals per game
Real Madrid 1.23 conceded goals per game
Arsenal 1.45 conceded goals per game

I mean, you're not among the worst if you don't count the bottom three as the worst.
 
With your figures and the correct Liverpool figure:

United 0.55 conceded goals per game
Barca 0.7 conceded goals per game
Bayern 0.86 conceded goals per game
City 0.87 conceded goals per game
Spurs 0.91 conceded goals per game
Chelsea 0.91 conceded goals per game
Liverpool 0.95 conceded goals per game
Real Madrid 1.23 conceded goals per game
Arsenal 1.45 conceded goals per game

I mean, you're not among the worst if you don't count the bottom three as the worst.
We're well ahead of the only team we (probably) need to beat this season, so I'll take that.
 
With your figures and the correct Liverpool figure:

United 0.55 conceded goals per game
Barca 0.7 conceded goals per game
Bayern 0.86 conceded goals per game
City 0.87 conceded goals per game
Spurs 0.91 conceded goals per game
Chelsea 0.91 conceded goals per game
Liverpool 0.95 conceded goals per game
Real Madrid 1.23 conceded goals per game
Arsenal 1.45 conceded goals per game

I mean, you're not among the worst if you don't count the bottom three as the worst.

Corrected again lol

Well atleast we are still doing much better than the team we will likely face in the CL final :)
 
That you're crazy?

Yeah I understand that.
He means that Mourinho sacrifices too much for the defensive aspect of your game, which results in a lack of goals sometimes, compared to City or Liverpool for example. I wonder who has the biggest net margin if you look at goals scored per game as well, probably not United even though you're leading the goals conceded per game category.
 
So, if Liverpool progresses to the finals and lose out on the CL trophy, will it be a successful season, for them? I'm sure nobody expected them to reach the finals.
100% yes, on par or even better then our season if we win the cup.
The whole football world will watch the biggest game, its very good for sponsors, income, prestige, etc.
 
Karius and Lovren seriously need to be upgraded on. That nagging feeling of a sudden incoming defensive brainfart won't go away until they are. If we actually make it to the final, the thought of Lovren vs. Ronaldo makes me shudder.
 
Isn't it just. Plenty to say when a bus gets hit by missiles, but total silence when an innocent Liverpool supporter ends up in hospital after getting attacked by oppo fans. Now if it was a 53 year Roma fan fighting for his life.............
If it was a 53 year old Roma fan attacked by Pool fans, there probaby would have been a thread on here 14 pages long by now... speedy recovery for Mr Sean Cox hopefully. Let's finish the job over there and properly humiliate them. Even De rossi piping off about long balls? Fecking idiot. You were gassed out of breath and had to be pulled off before the game and your talking shite. Let's give those ultras something to really get mad about next week in the form of goals, that is the best retaliation.
 
Karius and Lovren seriously need to be upgraded on. That nagging feeling of a sudden incoming defensive brainfart won't go away until they are. If we actually make it to the final, the thought of Lovren vs. Ronaldo makes me shudder.
Lovren is a conundrum. I hate his guts more than ever right now as I had him to score and Liverpool to win with both teams scoring a goal as well and I would have won over £500 had he scored that header. Simplest of headers. + allowing Dzeko to get in behind him was criminal.
 
Lovren is a conundrum. I hate his guts more than ever right now as I had him to score and Liverpool to win with both teams scoring a goal as well and I would have won over £500 had he scored that header. Simplest of headers. + allowing Dzeko to get in behind him was criminal.

I can live with him not scoring, but that attempt at simple defending was outrageous.

Ouch, btw :lol::lol:
 
They score like 5 goals a game, and It's always expected. That front 3 is absolutely insane. At a point each of them were called flops by many. All 3 world class can't be denied now. Klopp has done exactly what he did at Dortmund.

I can only look on enviously. Could and should have been us, but we persisted with fecking Van Gaal...
 
I can live with him not scoring, but that attempt at simple defending was outrageous.

Ouch, btw :lol::lol:
My line of thinking was that Dortmund goal could be recreated. Fecking idiot both him and me. He'll be moved on swiftly enough in summer.
 
He means that Mourinho sacrifices too much for the defensive aspect of your game, which results in a lack of goals sometimes, compared to City or Liverpool for example. I wonder who has the biggest net margin if you look at goals scored per game as well, probably not United even though you're leading the goals conceded per game category.

I don't think any fan has ever been worried their team concedes too few goals though.

I definitely think we need to be more attacking if we want to overhaul City, in the same way Liverpool need to be better defensively if they want to win the title. Your game management can be pretty poor.
 
Karius was excellent in Germany and is ideally suited to playing in a high line system. He's also been excellent on crosses this season aswell .
He had a poor season last time out, but he was recovering from a broken wrist/hand which is I imagine not the easiest thing both physically and mentally for a goalkeeper.
What we need urgently is depth for the front three and tweaks in midfield as well as a no6.

I don't see us investing at centre half, if he wanted shot of Lovren he would have done it by now.
 
If it was a 53 year old Roma fan attacked by Pool fans, there probaby would have been a thread on here 14 pages long by now... speedy recovery for Mr Sean Cox hopefully. Let's finish the job over there and properly humiliate them. Even De rossi piping off about long balls? Fecking idiot. You were gassed out of breath and had to be pulled off before the game and your talking shite. Let's give those ultras something to really get mad about next week in the form of goals, that is the best retaliation.
Agree about the deafening silence on here in regards to the Sean Cox incident. Like you said if the reverse happened there'd be multiple threads calling for a European ban and calling us every name under the sun.
The De Rossi quote is taken out of context, the full quote he admits they couldn't deal with the pace and ferocity of our attacks.

Weird game initially I thought they'd set up deep here and high at home. Seems like it caught us by surprise too, midfield was nowhere for the first 20. Once we cottoned on and adjusted the tactics we wreaked havoc.
Im slightly nervous for the away leg but comforted by the fact they pretty much have to set up the exact same way again.
 

Unfortunately I doubt it will stop the Roma ultras, it's their first time in the latter stages of this competition in well over 30 years. Many will use that as a platform to show the world how violent and dangerous they can be.
 
Karius and Lovren seriously need to be upgraded on. That nagging feeling of a sudden incoming defensive brainfart won't go away until they are. If we actually make it to the final, the thought of Lovren vs. Ronaldo makes me shudder.

Alisson and Pavard please. Should sort it out for us and won't need to worry for years about our defence after that assuming Pavard can hit the ground running and he certainly has the quality to.
 
Our issue this season is lack of backup to our front 3 and individual mistakes in defence. Most of the goals we've leaked are Lovren/Moreno/Gomez brainfarts or one of the midfielders (mostly Can) not tracking back actively. Also, our conceded per game with VvD playing dropped from around 1.1 to 0.8 (i don't remember exact numbers, but i looked that up a week ago).

We need to defend better and have adequate subs to be level with City in a long run. We're nowhere near atm.
 
Our issue this season is lack of backup to our front 3 and individual mistakes in defence. Most of the goals we've leaked are Lovren/Moreno/Gomez brainfarts or one of the midfielders (mostly Can) not tracking back actively. Also, our conceded per game with VvD playing dropped from around 1.1 to 0.8 (i don't remember exact numbers, but i looked that up a week ago).

We need to defend better and have adequate subs to be level with City in a long run. We're nowhere near atm.

100% agree with you. If we make it to the final I bet our bench will be absolutely dreadful :') It'll probably be Mignolet, Klavan, Clyne, Moreno, Woodburn, Solanke and Ings. What a joke :')
 
He means that Mourinho sacrifices too much for the defensive aspect of your game, which results in a lack of goals sometimes, compared to City or Liverpool for example. I wonder who has the biggest net margin if you look at goals scored per game as well, probably not United even though you're leading the goals conceded per game category.

Figures for the PL top 6, your prospective CL final opponents + Barca because they're leading the way in La Liga.

Man City: 135 goals scored in 53 matches. Average 2.55 goals scored per game. 45 goals conceded in 53 matches. Average 0.85 goals conceded per game. On average, City score 1.70 goals more than they concede per game.

Man Utd: 98 goals scored in 51 matches. Average 1.92 goals scored per game. 37 goals conceded in 51 matches. Average 0.73 goals conceded per game. On average, United score 1.19 goals more than they concede per game.

Liverpool: 128 goals scored in 51 matches. Average 2.51 goals scored per game. 55 goals conceded in 51 matches. Average 1.08 goals conceded per game. On average, Liverpool score 1.43 goals more than they concede per game.

Tottenham: 105 goals scored in 51 matches. Average 2.06 goals scored per game. 48 goals conceded in 51 matches. Average 0.94 goals conceded per game. On average, Tottenham score 1.12 goals more than they concede per game.

Chelsea: 99 goals scored in 54 matches. Average 1.83 goals scored per game. 54 goals conceded in 54 matches. Average 1.00 goals conceded per game. On average, Chelsea score 0.83 goals more than they concede per game.

Arsenal: 104 goals scored in 54 matches. Average 1.93 goals scored per game. 66 goals conceded in 66 matches. Average 1.22 goals conceded per game. On average, Arsenal score 0.71 goals more than they concede per game.

Bayern: 130 goals scored in 48 matches. Average 2.71 goals scored per game. 38 goals conceded in 48 matches. Average 0.79 goals conceded per game. On average, Bayern score 1.92 goals more than they concede per game.

Real Madrid: 129 goals scored in 55 matches. Average 2.35 goals scored per game. 58 goals conceded in 55 matches. Average 1.05 goals conceded per game. On average, Real Madrid score 1.30 goals more than they concede per game.

Barcelona: 125 goals scored in 54 matches. Average 2.31 goals scored per game. 32 goals conceded in 54 matches. Average 0.59 goals conceded per game. On average, Barcelona score 1.72 goals more than they concede per game.

1st Bayern 1.92
2nd Barca 1.72
3rd City 1.70
4th L'pool 1.43
5th Real 1.30
6th United 1.19
7th Spurs 1.12
8th Chelsea 0.83
9th Arsenal 0.71
 
Added point but our depth is somewhat crippling us, when we need to replace gassed legs in the final and middle third we only have defenders to bring off the bench.
Can Lallana and Ox all being injured is such a massive blow.
 
Figures for the PL top 6, your prospective CL final opponents + Barca because they're leading the way in La Liga.

Man City: 135 goals scored in 53 matches. Average 2.55 goals scored per game. 45 goals conceded in 53 matches. Average 0.85 goals conceded per game. On average, City score 1.70 goals more than they concede per game.

Man Utd: 98 goals scored in 51 matches. Average 1.92 goals scored per game. 37 goals conceded in 51 matches. Average 0.73 goals conceded per game. On average, United score 1.19 goals more than they concede per game.

Liverpool: 128 goals scored in 51 matches. Average 2.51 goals scored per game. 55 goals conceded in 51 matches. Average 1.08 goals conceded per game. On average, Liverpool score 1.43 goals more than they concede per game.

Tottenham: 105 goals scored in 51 matches. Average 2.06 goals scored per game. 48 goals conceded in 51 matches. Average 0.94 goals conceded per game. On average, Tottenham score 1.12 goals more than they concede per game.

Chelsea: 99 goals scored in 54 matches. Average 1.83 goals scored per game. 54 goals conceded in 54 matches. Average 1.00 goals conceded per game. On average, Chelsea score 0.83 goals more than they concede per game.

Arsenal: 104 goals scored in 54 matches. Average 1.93 goals scored per game. 66 goals conceded in 66 matches. Average 1.22 goals conceded per game. On average, Arsenal score 0.71 goals more than they concede per game.

Bayern: 130 goals scored in 48 matches. Average 2.71 goals scored per game. 38 goals conceded in 48 matches. Average 0.79 goals conceded per game. On average, Bayern score 1.92 goals more than they concede per game.

Real Madrid: 129 goals scored in 55 matches. Average 2.35 goals scored per game. 58 goals conceded in 55 matches. Average 1.05 goals conceded per game. On average, Real Madrid score 1.30 goals more than they concede per game.

Barcelona: 125 goals scored in 54 matches. Average 2.31 goals scored per game. 32 goals conceded in 54 matches. Average 0.59 goals conceded per game. On average, Barcelona score 1.72 goals more than they concede per game.

1st Bayern 1.92
2nd Barca 1.72
3rd City 1.70
4th L'pool 1.43
5th Real 1.30
6th United 1.19
7th Spurs 1.12
8th Chelsea 0.83
9th Arsenal 0.71

Real Madrid and Liverpool both love to concede goals. That could be some final. Or 0-0 and goes to penalties :D
 
100% yes, on par or even better then our season if we win the cup.
The whole football world will watch the biggest game, its very good for sponsors, income, prestige, etc.
Nah, not for me.

If you win the FA cup and finish second, and we lose the CL final (providing we get there) you would have had the better season.

If you finish second and lost the FA final and we lose the CL final then yeah, i’d Say it was a better season then yours.
 
So, if Liverpool progresses to the finals and lose out on the CL trophy, will it be a successful season, for them? I'm sure nobody expected them to reach the finals.
Only if they use it as a spur to go on and win something next season. Until Klopp wins cup finals there will always be a question mark over him and by extension his players