Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense

Liverpool seem to struggle with Villa. Or maybe I am just imagining that,, but I think they have had some poor results. Could be an interesting match. Expect them to do alright from that start though.
 
Liverpool seem to struggle with Villa. Or maybe I am just imagining that,, but I think they have had some poor results. Could be an interesting match. Expect them to do alright from that start though.
Bogey team at home for us, yet we always beat them on their patch as does everyone else really. Bentekes always a handful when he plays. looking at them opening fixtures I'd rather get them away ones at city & spurs out of the way either than playing the likes of them sides at a crucial time at Xmas where we came away with nothing.
 
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So despite my actually saying in the opening post, in actual words, not just alluding to something, : "I've based this theory purely on wishful thinking, conjecture and .... (I list the stats)" you feel you have the right to categorically state something regarding my intentions to the contrary, as a fact ? Jog on son.
Your stats didn't back your point so were utterly useless. You might want to take a wee jog yourself.
 
So in theory, it will be Manquillo and Flanagan competing at right back and Moreno starting at left back with Enrique covering? Any means to get Johnson out of the picture I suppose.
 
So in theory, it will be Manquillo and Flanagan competing at right back and Moreno starting at left back with Enrique covering? Any means to get Johnson out of the picture I suppose.
That sounds just about right. Flanno (Manquillo) - Lovren - Sakho - Moreno (Enrique). Two attack-minded FBs (the young Spanish lads) and two defensive-minded FBs.
 
That sounds just about right. Flanno (Manquillo) - Lovren - Sakho - Moreno (Enrique). Two more attacking FBs (the young Spanish lads) and two more defensive FBs.
Distinctive improvement on the defence last season. A lot might depend on Rodgers approach which I think was a bit gung-ho at times, but I can't see Liverpool conceding anywhere near the amount conceded in the league last season.
 
An almost complete new backline is too risky. Rodgers' might ease each player in, such as:

Johnson Skrtel Sakho Flanno, then
Flanno Skrtel Sakho Moreno, then
Flanno Lovren Sakho Moreno

I'd be happy with that last lineup. Can't afford opposing teams taking advantage of two new full backs.
 
Distinctive improvement on the defence last season. A lot might depend on Rodgers approach which I think was a bit gung-ho at times, but I can't see Liverpool conceding anywhere near the amount conceded in the league last season.
One hopes so ! I'd be happier if the rumoured sale of Johnson to QPR goes through (nothing concrete there yet though) so Flanno would be confirmed in the RB slot. I'd be quite happy seeing Enrique (who I've always rated as a defensive FB) rotated with Moreno for the LB slot, depending on who the opposition is. So either two defensive FBs or one defensive and one offensive.
 
Liverpool have made a £17.9m offer for Paris St Germain playmaker Ezequiel Lavezzi, according to reports in Spanish newspaper AS.
The French champions are apparently keen to bring in funds to finance a move for Real Madrid winger Angel Di Maria.

Would be a good signing to be fair, would get into starting eleven as of now, and would have what Sterling/Lavezzi starting with Markovic, etc covering..

Still reckon the priority now should be after the defensive additions, a centre forward for your club.
 
Liverpool have made a £17.9m offer for Paris St Germain playmaker Ezequiel Lavezzi, according to reports in Spanish newspaper AS.
The French champions are apparently keen to bring in funds to finance a move for Real Madrid winger Angel Di Maria.
Would be a good signing, he's a bit of a poor man's Tevez (no slight on Lavezzi by the way, he's a very good player, he's just not quite as good as Tevez but shares similarities). He runs a lot and makes up for his technical flaws (which aren't huge at all, he's just not at the highest standard from that point of view) with his huge workrate. He's very useful in a counter attacking team, he's pretty fast. He'd be great for you guys, and I could see it happen to be honest, though I'm surprised at the reported fee which seems incredibly random. Thought it might amount to something like 25M€ but 17.9M£ is 22.56M€, weird. Would've thought he'd be worth more actually, but then again they're looking to offload.
 
Yeh sure il take your word for it..

Not too familiar with PSGs wage structure..
His contract had been made public a while ago during a documentary, can't remember how exactly, so it's pretty common knowledge. I used xe.com cos I wasn't sure of the pound to euro conversion rate, but 6.6M a year is 127K€/week, which is apparently just above 100K€.

Would've thought his salary would be higher though to be honest, he was one of the first big 'stars' they attracted, though it was probably a huge pay bump for him back then.

Not sure about before/after taxes, but I think PSG takes care of tax for its players, so wouldn't surprise me if that was close to net.
 
Lavezzi is 29, he's not young.

EDIT: this was in response to a post that's since been deleted claiming he was still young and had loads of talent to work with.
 
Still reckon the priority now should be after the defensive additions, a centre forward for your club.

Totally agree. Though TBF Rodgers has said we'll have at least one before the window closes so it's now a guessing game as to whom it might be.

I want us to buy two so ...
Any one from : Lacazette, Firmino, Aubameyang, Higuain or Balotelli (a nutter but with a 1:2 goals scoring record and would only cost €15m).
Plus Ings.
 
I deleted my post mate. For some reason I was thinking about Lacazette (well they do both begin with L) !
Yeah making me look like a fool! :D

Yeah Lavezzi won't improve anymore, he's been the finished product for a while, but he's a very good player and would be really useful for you. Really think it would be a good purchase.

You mentioned also in that post Newcastle were in for him, he's much too good for Newcastle.
 
Yeah making me look like a fool! :D

Yeah Lavezzi won't improve anymore, he's been the finished product for a while, but he's a very good player and would be really useful for you. Really think it would be a good purchase.

You mentioned also in that post Newcastle were in for him, he's much too good for Newcastle.
Yes sorry the Newcastle bit was also referring to Lacazette ! You might want to edit again :D

Lavezzi I'm not sold on. Wouldn't come cheap, high wages, not really a goalscorer (has a 1:4 to 1:5 per game record I believe) and we have plenty of those creative/energetic types already. We really need players who can put it in the back of the net. Which is why I'm not totally against Bony, I know he's not at that level but he's more suited to what we require (IMHO) close to 1:2 Goals per Game and something a little bit different for when we need a player in the box who can score when the opposition have 10 men behind the ball.
 
Yes sorry the Newcastle bit was also referring to Lacazette ! You might want to edit again :D

Lavezzi I'm not sold on. Wouldn't come cheap, high wages, not really a goalscorer (has a 1:4 to 1:5 per game record I believe) and we have plenty of those creative/energetic types already. We really need players who can put it in the back of the net. Which is why I'm not totally against Bony, I know he's not at that level but he's more suited to what we require (IMHO) close to 1:2 Goals per Game and something a little bit different for when we need a player in the box who can score when the opposition have 10 men behind the ball.
I think you're looking at it wrong with those stats, you're looking at the stats of a guy who's #1 choice at his club, which he's not going to be at Liverpool and would revert to much weaker stats. Lambert probably has decent goals to games stats, but I'm pretty sure he's going to be quite poor for you lot and his stats are going to collapse. Whereas Lavezzi has got decent stats playing second fiddle to Zlatan (who is given a free pass at everything at PSG) and others, and who is seen as a water carrier in the offensive play of the team. Context is really important when looking at stats. He's very good at what he does imo and slightly underrated I'd say, I'd be more worried about him signing for you guys than any other of your summer transfers (or reported targets).
 
An almost complete new backline is too risky. Rodgers' might ease each player in, such as:

Johnson Skrtel Sakho Flanno, then
Flanno Skrtel Sakho Moreno, then
Flanno Lovren Sakho Moreno

I'd be happy with that last lineup. Can't afford opposing teams taking advantage of two new full backs.

I'd be doing the same not only in the defence, but throughout the team. The first few games I would have at most one or two signings starting.
 
Totally agree. Though TBF Rodgers has said we'll have at least one before the window closes so it's now a guessing game as to whom it might be.

I want us to buy two so ...
Any one from : Lacazette, Firmino, Aubameyang, Higuain or Balotelli (a nutter but with a 1:2 goals scoring record and would only cost €15m).
Plus Ings.

Yeh original quotes was up to 4 I believe so include the two Spanish boys in this.. So obviously yous are still in the market.

Higuain would be a great buy if I'm honest, as a player obviously Napoli would demand big money, etc but top players cost money.

Balotelli, was only talking about him recently saying the same.. and will probably get slated because of his city past and previous antics but for 15m you can't go wrong, scores goals and doesn't seem to be in the headlines as he previously was. Worst case anyway Liverpool would make that amount back if he disappointed.
 
Do you think they will try for Cavani?

I'm not sure, I think they need someone of that level but then I can see Brendan Rodgers playing one up top so it would make sense going for a number 2 striker.
 
Do you think they will try for Cavani?

I'm not sure, I think they need someone of that level but then I can see Brendan Rodgers playing one up top so it would make sense going for a number 2 striker.
Just his agent trying to pressurise PSG I'd guess. We have no chance of signing him - Liverpool don't sign star players, we make them :D

The agent of Edinson Cavani claims Liverpool have made an approach to sign him.

Cavani’s representative Claudi Anelluci says that the Reds and Arsenal have shown interest in the Uruguayan striker.

Liverpool are keen to bolster their attacking options before the start of the new Premier League season next weekend following the departure of Luis Suarez.

Manager Brendan Rodgers looked to have tied up a deal for Queens Park Rangers forward Loic Remy but his move fell through at the last minute following complications with his medical.

Now, it is claimed he has turned his attention to Paris Saint Germain’s Cavani.

There has been much interest in the player during the last six months,” Anelluci is quoted in El Telegrafo.

“I can confirm that Cavani heard proposals from Liverpool and Arsenal.

“(Cavani) Already said he would love to play in England, but has not yet made a final decision.

“He is not interested in money and fame; just want to be happy playing football.”
 
Just his agent trying to pressurise PSG I'd guess. We have no chance of signing him - Liverpool don't sign star players, we make them :D

The agent of Edinson Cavani claims Liverpool have made an approach to sign him.

Cavani’s representative Claudi Anelluci says that the Reds and Arsenal have shown interest in the Uruguayan striker.

Liverpool are keen to bolster their attacking options before the start of the new Premier League season next weekend following the departure of Luis Suarez.

Manager Brendan Rodgers looked to have tied up a deal for Queens Park Rangers forward Loic Remy but his move fell through at the last minute following complications with his medical.

Now, it is claimed he has turned his attention to Paris Saint Germain’s Cavani.


There has been much interest in the player during the last six months,” Anelluci is quoted in El Telegrafo.

“I can confirm that Cavani heard proposals from Liverpool and Arsenal.

“(Cavani) Already said he would love to play in England, but has not yet made a final decision.

“He is not interested in money and fame; just want to be happy playing football.”


Do Liverpool fans seriously bite this crap, atleast we muppet over big name players before going for the no mark, I mean are we really to believe had Liverpool bought remy they wouldn't be looking at Cavani and Falcao now... I guess we have no worries for Liverpools squad bolstering if the transfer committee can't see that Cavani and Falcao are better players than Remy....can you imagine Brentons conversation with these guys.....

Brenton: "Cavani, come join our revolution, we'd love you here, look how the fans cheered your bitey compatriot. You're my number one pick, we'd want you even if Luis was here still"

Cavani: "What about your failed bid for Remy"

Brenton: "hmm, I didn't know you knew about that...." "I wonder if Falcao reads the British news..."
 

Absolutely. That's exactly how I would be selling Liverpool to players too (to the South Americans who dream of Barcelona or Madrid). Let them know they can show how great they are with us and then they can move on and join one of the Spanish giants.
 
Just his agent trying to pressurise PSG I'd guess. We have no chance of signing him - Liverpool don't sign star players, we make them :D

Oh come you yourself know that Liverpool have just about no chance of signing him simply because they can't, not because they don't want to. When was the last time Liverpool bought an established star who was well sought after by premium clubs? Fernando Torres perhaps. Even United doesn't buy that many established star players with only Mata and RVP being signed under extenuating circumstances. Most of the sensible United fans know where we are in the transfer market hierarchy and know there are several clubs who are more attractive than us, esp due to financial reasons, but we don't go around saying we don't buy star players just for the sake of it etc(Brendan Rodgers). I've seen a few Pool fans saying they don't need star players etc but they don't acknowledge the fact that they are not in a position to sign them in the first place. Reus? Cavani? Never going to happen in a million years.

You seem like a reasonable and knowledgeable liverpool fan unlike most pool fans here and maybe that line was tongue-in-cheek but it irks me to see certain Pool fans with the attitude that the club doesn't need star players when it actually reeks of sour grapes.