No, it's because he's young and Juanfran is much better as of now. Manquillo is talented, without a doubt but he's dispensable.
Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense
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God I hope you're right. The state of our fullbacks (Johnson, Kelly, Robinson) frightens the hell out of me more than the lack of a striker.
Lingard. Would've been exceptional had Lindegaard scored!
we were missing other key players such as Welbeck, Carrick, Rafael and Januzaj - 'full strength side' seems to suggest this is as good as it's going to get.
LoL - oops Lingard !
Oh yes forgot a couple, how remiss of me
Though full strength certainly doesn't mean, 'as good as it's going to get' ! For either of our teams. It's still pre-season and all clubs are still working on fitness, formations and integrating new players.He looks very very tidy. Did you see the match clip of his performance I put up somewhere in this thread ? Worth searching for.
This is from another forum. Spanish Atleti fan (note. me isn't me !) :
Him:
so finally you got Manquillo dor two years
Me: he's shit, isn't he?
Him: absolutely not
Me: why are you loaning him out then?
Him:he is even better than Juanfran, in my opinion
Me:so why get rid of him if he's potentially so good?
Him:
because Simeone does not like changes
so he only payed 8 matches last season
until that bastad of CR7 iunjured him pretty badly
such a bastanrd
Me: ha - you think we'll end up buying him then?
Him:
hey just two seasons
then Juanfran out and Manquillo in only if Atletico agrees after these two years
re: Moreno:
Me:btw, is this moreno kid from sevilla good?he looks like average on youtube
Him:he is also very talented
Me:but a shit defender no?
Him: dunno why Del Bosque never brought hjim to Brazil. u r wrong señor. Manquillo and Moreno are very good
True that.
You're a stange poster, I'll give you that.
Very bizarre indeed.
Thought i had stumbled in to the Rawk thread for a sec then.
You're right. Don't know what I was thinking (probably wasn't - business calls all through last night).
RvP - this is an interesting one. United fans will of course not agree with me but .... I've a bet on with a friend that RvP will score less Goals per Game than he did last season (irrespective of games played, and he may miss more than a few with age catching up with him, one would suspect his past history may repeat). I've based this theory purely on wishful thinking, conjecture and :-
2010 52.63% (19 games - 10 goals)
2011 66.67% (33 - 22)
2012 77.08% (48 - 37)
2013 62.50% (48 - 30)
2014 64.29% (28 - 18)
Haha not me - just pinched from another forum. Though I do have a certain je ne sais quoi no ?
Looks like something a RAWK member would write to convince themselves they are signing quality players.
Haha not me - just pinched from another forum. Though I do have a certain je ne sais quoi no ?
Ah right. thought it was you. Sorry.
Still, it was a bizarre convo, rawk esk.
This didn't happen though, did it? Is this pulled from the same forum where every scouser's non-existent "manc friend" lives?
Manquillo does have to work on his handstands though :
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Hearsay. The guy who posted it (not on RAWK) said it was a chat with a friend of his, a big Atleti fan. Just an opinion anyway but I always like to hear what the people who see these players on a regular basis have to say.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt then. Although what he said about Simeone not liking change is similar to BR, it's not that they don't like change it's just that both starting XI's are very strong and don't really need much tampering with and unsettling throughout the season. I don't know much about the other lad but I do rate Moreno.
Well with Moreno, Manquillo and even Shaw, we have to remember these are all 20 yr olds or under and they will not be consistent. Any manager buying a FB at this age is doing so on perceived potential only. They are going to have great matches but also make horrendous mistakes, it remains to be seen if any of them meet expectations.
Reina has signed for Bayern according to the Spanish press - so that's one question answered.
Weird one. But good news if true.
Weird game last night. Pre-season for you I suppose.
You're basing it on the fact that he improved his scoring rate in an underperforming team? Weird thing to base it on.
Age & injuries are what I'm basing it on.
So the stats were just a nice illustration of how good he is?
Van Persie is not a pace player, age won't affect his all round game, his technique and brain are his strengths. Couple that with him absolutely loving Van Gaal and his system and the most likely consequence is he improves.
Injuries are impossible to account for, he went close on two seasons without a knock for Arsenal then United.
Pacey players are more likely to pick up strains and pulls.
Injuries are impossible to account for, he went close on two seasons without a knock for Arsenal then United.
Pacey players are more likely to pick up strains and pulls.
Take another look. Figures are indicative of his injury record there too. However that is by the by because I said I had a bet that his GpG would be lower - that list shows you what it is, now stop trying to be clever or just being obtuse.
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It's as if people don't remember Bergkamp who was still an important player at Arsenal at 35.
Southampton (h)
Man City (a)
Spurs (a)
Villa (h)
West Ham (a)
Looking at the first five games I think we can do rather well points-wise from these. I think it will be a good time to face Southampton, Spurs and West Ham. Southampton will either be playing half a team containing new signings or players that were back ups last season and aren't good enough (depth was a big weakness of theirs last season). Spurs will have a new manager. West Ham will hopefully still be pursuing the "Big Sam must play attacking football" thing and that bodes well for anyone who has to come up against them I think.
Man City (a)
Spurs (a)
Villa (h)
West Ham (a)
Looking at the first five games I think we can do rather well points-wise from these. I think it will be a good time to face Southampton, Spurs and West Ham. Southampton will either be playing half a team containing new signings or players that were back ups last season and aren't good enough (depth was a big weakness of theirs last season). Spurs will have a new manager. West Ham will hopefully still be pursuing the "Big Sam must play attacking football" thing and that bodes well for anyone who has to come up against them I think.
Good article by Tony Barrett in the Times.
Barrett is as informed as anyone on club goings-on. Always worth a read. The Spurs comparisons have been dealt with intelligently. Plus, who would disagree that Liverpool need another frontman?
Your post made no sense. You were talking about your stupid bet that his goals per game ratio would drop and then told us why. Only it actually increased last season so the correlation you were hoping for wasn't really there.
The post made perfect sense in context, your assumptions / perversions didn't. As I said "I've based this theory purely on wishful thinking, conjecture and .... (the stats) " The post was wholly about a bet made for fun - since you are trying to discard that then you are also distorting the whole intent.
I'd also prefer to play any 'big game' that we would be favourites to lose (City away), very early on when there are always a few surprise results before teams settle into a rhythm.
Good article by Tony Barrett in the Times.
I don't think either United or Liverpool will be complaining about the quality of their pre-season training/preparations. Not only the quality of the opponents' players on display at each match, but also the quality of the training facilities, was top notch.
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It's whatever suits agenda, Gerrard for example is bordering on spent force but due to his withdrawn role it will allow him to play on, despite his whole career playing as a midfield engine concentrated on explosive energy.
You can apply the same logic with Rodgers, now that Suarez is gone Rodgers is the key focus to Liverpools success, flip it over and take away an out of depth Moyes replace him with a far better and more proven manager than Liverpool currently employ, add him to a squad of Champions that have improved vastly and the focus is on losing players and that's despite adding first team quality to an already excellent squad.
Or Sheringham was 35 when he won PFA player of the year in 2001.
You were basing it on stats that showed an improvement from the previous season. I pointed out it didn't make sense. Had there been a drop each season your point would've been valid but it didn't.
So despite my actually saying in the opening post, in actual words, not just alluding to something, : "I've based this theory purely on wishful thinking, conjecture and .... (I list the stats)" you feel you have the right to categorically state something regarding my intentions to the contrary, as a fact ? Jog on son.
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That's a good point. Of those five, City will be tricky and you'll be expected to lose at the Emptihad anyway, so it's kind of a no lose situation, the rest are nice fixtures given the context. Southampton at home given the state they'll be in especially is good, I could actually see you giving them a good beating.
Villa not sure, but again it's at home, Spurs and West Ham you'll beat as well I think.
A shame you're meeting City so soon though, I like these big games to have more context, second game of the season is a bit early and kind of a 'waste' in a way between the champion and the runner up.