Liverpool 2014/15 | WARNING: Contains strong amounts of Scouse nonsense

Agree that Mignolet (or Gerrard) aren't the sole reasons why we're so poor defensively but they clearly aren't helping. It's no wonder our centre backs panic when they've got Mignolet shitting himself behind them, glued to his line except when he makes a rare dash forward to give a striker an open net to pass into.

I wouldn't have been overly concerned if we went out either, that's why I was frustrated that Sterling was playing. Glad we went through but it's not worth celebrating.

And agree on Marković but he's only finding his feet, best to judge him in a few months I think.

Mignolet and the CBs seem to lack any sort of understanding. He doesn't know when to come or to go. Doesn't help that the CBs fail to win 4/5 balls that come into the box either.

I'm not sure what Markovic is. Hasn't shown any glimpses at all as of yet.
 
Mignolet and the CBs seem to lack any sort of understanding. He doesn't know when to come or to go. Doesn't help that the CBs fail to win 4/5 balls that come into the box either.

I'm not sure what Markovic is. Hasn't shown any glimpses as of yet.

Agreed. There's a huge issue defensively, and it's one that you can't exactly pinpoint one single problem - it's partly the keeper, partly the centre backs, partly Gerrard, partly the tactics and partly the training (or lack of). One thing that's clear is that no matter which individuals start, we always look poor defensively.

As for Marković, maybe the pre-season injury is still having an effect? Just saying that because we were told he was a really quick player and he looks anything but..so far.
 
As for Marković, maybe the pre-season injury is still having an effect? Just saying that because we were told he was a really quick player and he looks anything but..so far.

Could be. Early days so nothing definitive can be said just yet. But he definitely needs to offer more than he has so far.
 
He wasn't Rafa, Lucas was outstanding in midfield without Gerrard. He gets my vote.

Lucas was better as the match went on but won't say he was outstanding.

Lallana, Raheem and Enrique were the best players today.
 
After five matches that claim is absurd especially as you're using the same amount of games to suggest United will get it right.

Had me perplexed too. By this logic United are 'going backwards fast' considering they're worse off than the same time last season, and have not played what you would call strong sides as yet. Not to mention the money spent.....

Plenty to go in the season for both teams, and I'd be amazed if both teams aren't looking much better come the end of the season.
 
Had me perplexed too. By this logic United are 'going backwards fast' considering they're worse off than the same time last season, and have not played what you would call strong sides as yet. Not to mention the money spent.....

Plenty to go in the season for both teams, and I'd be amazed if both teams aren't looking much better come the end of the season.
I would image both teams will improve(too much money spent not too). Although I think it's slightly different as it's clear with United that the attacking football being played is already vastly better than previous years. Where as with Liverpool at the moment nothing is working both with attacking and defending.

Still it's still so early on in the season to judge both teams.
 
I would image both teams will improve(too much money spent not too). Although I think it's slightly different as it's clear with United that the attacking football being played is already vastly better than previous years. Where as with Liverpool at the moment nothing is working both with attacking and defending.

Still it's still so early on in the season to judge both teams.
Agreed we're shit at the back but they're shit at both ends. Like Rodgers.
 
There are a lot of new players and Sturridge has been missing as well. Once he is back fully fit and gets to play few games with Raheem and Mario, then only it will be fair to pass any judgement on the offensive end. Defensively, Liverpool have been a mess ever since Steve Clarke left.
 
He wasn't Rafa, Lucas was outstanding in midfield without Gerrard. He gets my vote.
Well the fact there is no consensus could be good .. or not. However my 123 was : Lallana, Enrique, Suso (edging out Sterling). Interestingly the Liverpool forums are split too, with Lallana miles ahead on one (I don't know about RAWK .. they are weirdoes but since Lucas is a favourite son over there then I guess he polled highly), weirdly the Echo (which has the most voters of course) has Enrique 5th, Lallana 4th, Sterling 3rd, Rossiter 2nd (empathy votes for a 17 yo perhaps) and Suso at #1. Lucas is 6th or 7th from memory.
 
Agreed. There's a huge issue defensively, and it's one that you can't exactly pinpoint one single problem - it's partly the keeper, partly the centre backs, partly Gerrard, partly the tactics and partly the training (or lack of). One thing that's clear is that no matter which individuals start, we always look poor defensively.

As for Marković, maybe the pre-season injury is still having an effect? Just saying that because we were told he was a really quick player and he looks anything but..so far.

Which all goes to point to our system being the culprit. There is no doubt Skrtel, Lovren and Sakho are very good CBs, they have already proved it either here or elsewhere. I don't know what the solution is but it starts with the GK and the DM.

Agree on Marković, he doesn't look right yet. However the hype from Serbia, Portugal and even our own coaching staff can't be all wrong.
 
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So is there revisionism afoot ? Imagine so, what's the outcome ?
Your now below United and 3/4 of the league.
@Rafateria "a good manager gets his team through injury spells" Ain't that right lar... :lol:

So just to recap, your going to miss Suarez yea ? Especially with Sturridge and his sick note. No ?
 
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So is there revisionism afoot ? Imagine so, what's the outcome ?
Your now below United and 3/4 of the league.
@Rafateria "a good manager gets his team through injury spells" Ain't that right lar... :lol:

So just to recap, your going to miss Suarez yea ? Especially with Sturridge and his sick note. No.

:lol:
 
So is there revisionism afoot ? Imagine so, what's the outcome ?
Your now below United and 3/4 of the league.
@Rafateria "a good manager gets his team through injury spells" Ain't that right lar... :lol:

So just to recap, your going to miss Suarez yea ? Especially with Sturridge and his sick note. No ?

Stand by what I said that Arsenal, Man Utd and Liverpool are going to be fighting for 4th. Unfortunately looks like advantage to the other 2 teams though...
 
Stand by what I said that Arsenal, Man Utd and Liverpool are going to be fighting for 4th. Unfortunately looks like advantage to the other 2 teams though...
I admire you Bob your a realistic voice amidst the abnormal balloons, Barney used to be the voice of reason round here but you've paved the way for actual realism amongst the scouse contingent.
Out of your list United and Arsenal will likely go forward, looking at Liverpools options I just don't know ? It seems Sturridge is key to everything and without him there's a goal drought, United are amazing going forward but shite at the back, they will toughen up as the defense settles or scorer one more.
Arsenal will just plod away and with the pace they have up top are a fecking nightmare but still carry that soft core.
Liverpool have been in poor shape goal wise and perhaps even worse at the back, there's a hell of a lot to fix even though the managers had plenty of time to fix it, attacking wise fixing the loss of Suarez is bordering impossible but defensively he's had 4 windows and in honesty it simply looks worse.

I dunno mate, but no surprise, I don't fancy you at all.Have you got a sister ?
 
Stand by what I said that Arsenal, Man Utd and Liverpool are going to be fighting for 4th. Unfortunately looks like advantage to the other 2 teams though...

I think it's debatable because in terms of the league table Liverpool are in a slightly better position looking at fixtures played and points but in terms of performances I think United are doing a little better.

United have Everton, City, Chelsea and Arsenal in their next 6 so let's see how they do. As of now, unless United do well in their next 6, I predict Liverpool will be ahead after 19 games.

I do expect United to perform very well in their final 19 games, I'm not sure whether Rodgers can repeat the performances of last season with his side but we will know more when Sturridge returns.

Another international break after next week so hopefully Hodgson doesn't injure him again, well hopefully for me but not for Liverpool fans.

What's your opinion, do you think Rodgers could get this side playing like he did last season?
 
feck off Empire, your on the wum and it's dull, cheer it up bro.
What you wanna do is ask them how they feel the season is going ?
It's basically a trip switch, they thought it was just going to continue along the same luck laced path as last season but it's just gone back to normal = wank.

So yea how's the season so far feckers ?
 
Our Liverpool fans are very very quiet this season.

Can't be posting here A.N.D preparing your season highlights of thrashing Wham 10-0 to finish the season ahead ofLiverpool in a special short season.

I'm only human. DVD is nearly ready.
 
Can't be posting here A.N.D preparing your season highlights of thrashing Wham 10-0 to finish the season ahead ofLiverpool in a special short season.

I'm only human. DVD is nearly ready.

How's that comparison stuff going? The thing where you said ah but we still have more points from these corresponding fixtures than we did last season, hinting at a positive season ahead?
 
Can't be posting here A.N.D preparing your season highlights of thrashing Wham 10-0 to finish the season ahead ofLiverpool in a special short season.

I'm only human. DVD is nearly ready.

On a more serious note, what did you think of the game and the players' performaces?
 
How's that comparison stuff going? The thing where you said ah but we still have more points from these corresponding fixtures than we did last season, hinting at a positive season ahead?

You poopooed it all so what's the point?

From a Liverpool perspective we're down 6 points from the corresponding fixtures last season. So not looking great now.

Edit: Utd beat West Ham 3-1 in their corresponding fixture.
 
On a more serious note, what did you think of the game and the players' performaces?

Wasn't live so haven't watched it. Will have to go by MOTD highlights which cannot give any real idea of how players performed.
 
feck off Empire, your on the wum and it's dull, cheer it up bro.
What you wanna do is ask them how they feel the season is going ?
It's basically a trip switch, they thought it was just going to continue along the same luck laced path as last season but it's just gone back to normal = wank.

So yea how's the season so far feckers ?

I'm not on the WUM.

I like Bob Loblaw and I genuinely want to hear his thoughts, also everything I said is my opinion not an attempt at provocation. I also think what I said was quite a reasonable opinion.

You're the one trying to cause arguments, I see you're obsessed with @Rafateria these days.
 
What do you mean by that? They didn't televise it where you are from?

London, UK? No, it was a Saturday 3pm kickoff which are not televised to encourage attendance at the grounds. I didn't bother with streams.
 
So is there revisionism afoot ? Imagine so, what's the outcome ?
Your now below United and 3/4 of the league.
@Rafateria "a good manager gets his team through injury spells" Ain't that right lar... :lol:
So just to recap, your going to miss Suarez yea ? Especially with Sturridge and his sick note. No ?
I am simply in awe of how it's possible for an obviously intelligent person to continually come up with inane jibes (e.g. 'You're going to miss Suarez yea? When virtually everyone in this thread as already said we will) instead of pertinent comment. Amazing. Taking Wummery to another level. I really should just put you on ignore since you rarely have anything constructive to say and, taking the quoted post as the perfect example, even your attempted wind-ups are exponentially deteriorating in quality.
 
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Ming - 6 - sod all to do really bar one excellent save .. oh no that was Lloris in the later match, my mistake. No he had feck all to do.
Moreno - 6 - can't blame him for being out-muscled by the boy-monster Lukaku. Love his pace and determination but does need to time his tackles a little better at times.
Lovern - 7.5 - thought he had an excellent game, moving out of defence into midfield to hold up potentially dangerous attacking breaks before returning to CB when the danger had passed or our midfield had got back.
Skrtel - 6.5 - did what he had to do unspectacularly.
Manquillo - 6.5 - had his hands full with first Moralis an then Baines/McGeady but coped pretty well. One superb run deserved to have set up a goal.
Gerrard - 7 - substantial improvement in movement, the same range of good to excellent passing and a good goal, even though Howard should have saved it. FKs were off today.
Henderson - 6.5 - I didn't see what others seem to have seen today, a couple of very good passes and the usual harrying aside. Made a couple of defensive errors that on another day could have had repercussions.
Markovic - 4 - he isn't a winger so we should stop playing him there. He looked much better when BR moved him more centrally at HT, he looked far more confident there. Still, he isn't as good as our other options there. Whether he just hasn't settled/matured yet I don't know so we need to give him lots of time. Obviously BR is seeing something in training that isn't translating into match day performances.
Lallana - 8 - another big, following up on last week, 'feck You' to his detractors. Brilliant feet, running down defenders all day long (his kms per match stats are similar to Henderson's) and as someone else said, the perfect description of him is the 'White Sterling', though maybe not at that level yet ! It is very frustrating though, that without runners - you can see him looking for them - a lot of his effort is going to waste. He could be brilliant with Studge and Sterling up front.
Sterling - 7.5 - Another excellent performance. Good tracking back and defence and once he had the ball at his feet was always looking to make things happen.
Balotelli - 6 - I want to give him more, at times his effort was excellent, at others far less so. At times I thought he was going to blow one through the net, at others he was wasteful. And then there were those two misses, misses that cost us 2 points and him 1.5 points on his score.

Coutinho - 7 - slick passing, vision. tricky feet and a much improved performance. Every time we drop him he seems to come back like this, I just wish he could sustain it.

BR - 5 - I'm marking him down because a) he didn't go with the 2 up front (Balo & Sterling) I wanted to see to have the fast striker-on-the-shoulder that Lallana & Couninho needs, and b) because he inanely started Markovic over Suso or Coutinho. At least he saw the error of his ways after 56 mins but that was too late and I think that decision cost us 2 points.

Overall, a much improved performance, more akin to the Spurs match, unlucky not to get a cast-iron penalty and to lose 2 points to a hail-Mary, but worldly, strike in injury time. If we play like this from now on (but with Studge replacing Markovic in the team) we'll win more often than not.

Match was live here on both Astro and Star.
 
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You poopooed it all so what's the point?

From a Liverpool perspective we're down 6 points from the corresponding fixtures last season. So not looking great now.

Edit: Utd beat West Ham 3-1 in their corresponding fixture.
5 .. not that I'm counting like ;)
 
I'm not on the WUM.

I like Bob Loblaw and I genuinely want to hear his thoughts, also everything I said is my opinion not an attempt at provocation. I also think what I said was quite a reasonable opinion.

You're the one trying to cause arguments, I see you're obsessed with @Rafateria these days.
He is indeed. A 2-1 home win over West Ham and United moving 1 point above us and he's flashing himself about like there's no tomorrow. He was remarkably quiet in this thread after last week though.