Because we know there’s a budget….so overpaying by £15m probably leaves us without a new RB (example)
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Because we know there’s a budget….so overpaying by £15m probably leaves us without a new RB (example)
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I get sick of utter morons saying this. Because the club doesn't have unlimited fecking funds and has so many other areas that need fixing maybe?
I bet Barca fans were saying the same as you and now they're worried for the future of their club.
iT's NoT yOuR mOnEy ThOuGh.
Martinez.
The guardian actually have Zinchenko to Arsenal for as low as £30m!
We're paying £54M total.
I'm not saying fees are irrelevant you drip.
If we couldn't afford it you might have some semblance of a point regarding Barca. As it is your comparison is complete nonsense.
Wierd that people react so strong on the transfer fee, if he improves and helps the team play how Ten Hag wants us to play then who the feck cares!? We payed 80M for fecking Maguire,calm the feck down 
Bit bizarre to see gnashing of the teeth over the Glazers backing the manager by doing what it takes to sign one of his priority targets even if it means we have to overpay. I thought this is what we wanted. I have a bad feeling the fans are going to turn quickly on ETH if he struggles a bit out of the gate.
He made that choice after Arsenal's interest inflated the price, not before. Obviously with EtH United were a step ahead. He made that choice when he knew Ajax were getting offers they'd seriously consider. But if Arsenal had offered £10m more and United didn't want to match, then Ajax would simply have told him he could go to Arsenal but not to United unless the offer was matched. In that case he would obviously have joined Arsenal. Only wanting to come to OT is just fanboy fairytales.
I tend to be optimistic on most things so I reckon we are going to say this is €64m very well spent in a year's time.
The clip below from the youtuber sums up a small section of the fan base. He's calling them a fungus/mushrooms, which might be a little harsh, but I agree with him that for a base fee of £45m, it's a good deal all round. The add ons may revolve around us winning stuff, which would be a win win situation all round, again.
one CL place and those differences are irrelevant…we spent a fortune on young players who have hardly kicked a ball for us in the last 2 seasons who still haven’t…
What a load of rubbish. If he had the choice between joining Arteta and Arsenal or ETH and United, he isn't going to choose Arsenal.
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Tbh I always get the feeling some posters are more worried about what other fans will think of our signings than if the incoming player will improve us as a team.
Also without doubt the people moaning over the fee would have been complaining about how United are too cheap in the market if Martinez had went to Arsenal instead. City are apparently the best run club in England and they spend €60+ million on bench warmers.
The amount of United fans are here who never miss a chance to hate on their own football club will always surprise me.
Thank goodness, I was just wondering what Terry Flewers made of all this
Who is that mockney spanner?
Terry Flewers is a spoofer no knowing weirdo, why am I seeing his tweets being posted again on here.
Is there a source for £54m? All I saw was up to €55m, so not even close to double
Nvm, just seen it
Is he a cb or DM?
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If sooner read more from Flewers than the hardened core of moaning twats from the Caf who are plaguing the transfer window and trying their very best to spoil my summer with their sad act routine.
I agreed with what he said, so posted the clip. And he isn't saying anything that hasn't been reported on already regarding the fee.
Yes.
Tbh I never believe the briefings around the budget. The Glazers are all over the place, they will dump a load of cash on a Ronaldo at the last minute but could easily massively cut off the cash next summer if we get top 4 this season.
This.
Tbh I always get the feeling some posters are more worried about what other fans will think of our signings than if the incoming player will improve us as a team.
Also without doubt the people moaning over the fee would have been complaining about how United are too cheap in the market if Martinez had went to Arsenal instead. City are apparently the best run club in England and they spend €60+ million on bench warmers.
The amount of United fans are here who never miss a chance to hate on their own football club will always surprise me.
Ta.
Agree with that clip too. Completely baffled by people here moaning about the club paying £45 million for a player the manager trusts, has had success with and has the skillset the manager is looking for in that position.
One of the best centre backs with the ball at his feet in Europe, can cover multiple positions, key to the way the manager plays, Ajax player of the season last season.. not sure what people are complaining about.
Buzzing to have him here.
Buzzing to have him here.
So you might think my post was the stupidest ever seen, but when using players that never played in England as an example of good central defenders in the Premier League under 1.80 m then you don't post to smart anyway.
They never played in the Premier League so we will never know how well they would have done in England? The thing is there not many central defenders under 1.80 m that has done really well in this league and there are a lot of great players that has struggled when coming to the Premier League so even if they were great we can't be sure that they would have been great if they came here.
Why don't you just come up with som examples of class central defenders in the Premier League that has been smaller than 1.80? And please don't give examples of average joes in the league or midfielders or full backs that have played central defenders on occasion.
As I've said a few lines up we will never know as they never played in England and considering there has been good players struggling when coming to England you can't be sure that they would have bossed it.
You're actually the first onbe trowing an example of a good central defender under 1.80 m. Touré was a good one and Azpi did well in a three back line. But they are still 3 cm taller than Martinez. Ake is 1.80 m so not really an example of central defenders lower than that but he doesn't play to often for City. Fernandinho was an emergency solution and yes he played there but he was not class, there is a reason they didn't keep him in that position. Blind again not an example, but he got sold didn't he? Cresswell yeah he plays there but would you have signed him for United?
I did see a lot of Italian football in those years I had family living there and visited quite a few times during the year and visiting Delle Alpi quite a few times. Never mind watching Italian football on TV. The Italian football in those years was tough yes, but still he never played in England so we will never know if he would have handled this league.
I really do understand that you all want Martinez to be a class central defender for us. I want that too, we all want us to compete for the title don't wee? Still there is only two central defenders lower than 1.80 m that has been mentioned in this whole thread that has done well and also won the league. Martinez is even lower than than Touré and Azpi. Azpi has not played as one of two central defenders in a four back line. We need a class central defender who can bring us closer to winning the league not just someone who can play there, and considering the facts there aren't many class central defenders under 1.80 out there. Since Martinez will be signed by us I do as anyone else really hope that he does well. Still his height makes using 45 million pounds a bigger risk than necessary. There are central defenders out there that fits the physical profile that is needed in this league so why take chances.
I really hope he proves me wrong, and I will admit that if he becomes a class central defender in the Premier League, but unfortunately I think he will b
One CL place? No idea what you are trying to say here?
The figures are absolutely relevant. Arsenal wanted Martinez, thought they had him, we hijacked the deal and they looked at alternate options and landed with Zinchenko.
Zinchenko won the league four freakin times!
He's a proven premier league asset for £30m! TBF They were going to pay £40m plus add ons of £5m for Martinez, then he said he wanted United so moved on.
Who knows how it'll go and maybe in a years time Martinez will be the better of the two but here and now, we've paid a hefty over price.
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Pages and pages of short jokes and now we all need to cancel this transfer because we’ve “overpaid”
So just for the fact he keeps his mouth shut we should look past the fact that he’s not good enough? Hmmm after 6 years I thought there’d be less excuses not more brought out!
Now new reasons to moan
I really don't understand why it gets tagged as "negative" or "moaning". It's a discussion is all.
We've paid a hefty price fee for the kid.
Yep the guy that originally broke the transfer news a few days back.
So outstanding questions that need cleared up:
what height is he?
Isn’t it risky playing a leprechaun as a CB?
Is he being bought to play DM?
Can he play DM?
Who will pay alongside him?
I don’t see any posts that clear these up
what height is he?
Isn’t it risky playing a leprechaun as a CB?
Is he being bought to play DM?
Can he play DM?
Who will pay alongside him?
I don’t see any posts that clear these up
You started with how he was attracted by Arsenal when they made bid which was rejected, now the same player rejected Arsenal, you started moaning about fee and bringing up some irrelevant player to the discussion.
I just don't understand why some feel we have been shortchanged here. I'm sure he will prove his worth.Pages and pages of short jokes and now we all need to cancel this transfer because we’ve “overpaid”
One CL place? No idea what you are trying to say here?
The figures are absolutely relevant. Arsenal wanted Martinez, thought they had him, we hijacked the deal and they looked at alternate options and landed with Zinchenko.
Zinchenko won the league four freakin times!
He's a proven premier league asset for £30m! TBF They were going to pay £40m plus add ons of £5m for Martinez, then he said he wanted United so moved on.
Who knows how it'll go and maybe in a years time Martinez will be the better of the two but here and now, we've paid a hefty over price.
Jones won the league, "he won the league" is a feck all statement. He is a bench player and highest league starts for him was around 15 league games.
I'm all for paying the extra to get the top targets in the positions we are prioritizing. It's not like there is any particular player we were going to sign for the 10m or so we save from buying the potentially inferior player or worse fit.
At worse we will have a reduced budget for our next signings and may be forced to go for players lower down the list. Expecting plenty of flexibility anyway, and I doubt a strict budget exists to being with.
At worse we will have a reduced budget for our next signings and may be forced to go for players lower down the list. Expecting plenty of flexibility anyway, and I doubt a strict budget exists to being with.
Thanks Hester. I have an aunt Hester. Hester’s unite.
beat me to it!
How is Zinchenko irrelevant to this? It's the player Arsenal moved onto after failing to sign Martinez.
Absolutely fair then to compare the two transfers.
Both 25, 2 years left on Zinchenkos deal vs 3 on Martinez. Yet the variance in the fee is considerable.
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