Lisandro Martinez | Signs for United

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If he's signed to play at cb this will be an absolute disaster. I don't care how good he is. His height will be exploited all day long in the PL.
 
GMoore23 said:
If he's signed to play at cb this will be an absolute disaster. I don't care how good he is. His height will be exploited all day long in the PL.
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Yes he will struggle moving to a league with on average shorter strikers after having good aerial stats in a league with taller strikers :lol:
 
Terranova said:
Yes he will struggle moving to a league with on average shorter strikers after having good aerial stats in a league with taller strikers :lol:
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Ok, name me 4 or 5 top class cb's in the history of the Premier league around 5ft7.
 
Wouldnt be a good look on the club to fly a new signing out to Australia for only 4 or 5 days.

Especially after all the whinging about the internal flights.
 
GMoore23 said:
Ok, name me 4 or 5 top class cb's in the history of the Premier league around 5ft7.
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Martinez is 5'9 not 5'7 and height doesn't matter that much if your timing is spot on. But you are also ignoring my comment about him having good aerial stats in a league with taller strikers, things winning headers is a thing where it doesn't matter how good the league is, it's all physicality so it really doesn't matter that they aren't that much smaller defenders in the PL. It only matter that Martinez is a surprisingly good header of the ball for his height due to his jumping and timing.
 
Patrice Evra was also 5'9" and could outjump pretty much anyone he played against, including in the box defending corners. If you're a pro at jumping, you can get an extra few inches without much issue.
 
lysglimt said:
Ronaldo is making a fortune - so if he leaves that will free up so much money, it should be easy to persuade the owners to release more money to sign a new striker. Lets assume we get £15 million if we sell Ronaldo - in addition it's likely that the new strikers salary will be at least £200.000 less than Ronaldo - so offloading Ronaldo should easily free £25-30 million the first year alone
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And top strikers cost north of £80 at least, plus none are available or dying to join United on our current lousy form
 
Terranova said:
Martinez is 5'9 not 5'7 and height doesn't matter that much if your timing is spot on. But you are also ignoring my comment about him having good aerial stats in a league with taller strikers, things winning headers is a thing where it doesn't matter how good the league is, it's all physicality so it really doesn't matter that they aren't that much smaller defenders in the PL. It only matter that Martinez is a surprisingly good header of the ball for his height due to his jumping and timing.
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It's not just heading that is in question. Players like VVD are not so dominant because they just win headers, it's in the manner they do it, and in what position that leaves the backline. A 190cm CB will much easier dominate a striker, dial with any duels or a simple ball shield. You are very naive if you think a 175cm CB is not a very very big risk especially at the price we are paying,
 
AjaxCunian said:
If Ajax would get Calvin that would be an awesome replacement though.
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I wanted Utd to buy him, great player, young, fast, strong will be fairly cheap as well. Watch the big teams chase him a season or two after he signs for £50m +
 
diarm said:
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Honestly, If i see a funnier post this month I will be doing very well.
 
WPMUFC said:
Varane "slight knock" and not in the starting XI tonight....how quickly can you fly from Netherlands to Melbourne? :nervous:
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Guy's made of paper. Probably stubbed his toe while boarding the plane.
 
Kostov said:
It's not just heading that is in question. Players like VVD are not so dominant because they just win headers, it's in the manner they do it, and in what position that leaves the backline. A 190cm CB will much easier dominate a striker, dial with any duels or a simple ball shield. You are very naive if you think a 175cm CB is not a very very big risk especially at the price we are paying,
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Centre of gravity, core strength and power trump that in most tussles, a short, powerful player is a nightmare to get around, outmanoeuvre or beat outright because of the recovery time and far superior balance.
 
Got to say out of the signings we have made and are supposedly making this is the one that excites me most, a versatile, ball playing defender defender come DM with pace and awareness, I don't see the height being an issue he seems to have enough awareness to mitigate that (from what I have seen). One of my favourite defenders Stevie Bruce was only just 6ft (okay has 3 inches on Martinez but comparatively, not the tallest defender) as I recall Bruce was not only very solid defensively in the air but scored quite a few headed goals as well.
 
Fortitude said:
Centre of gravity, core strength and power trump that in most tussles, a short, powerful player is a nightmare to get around, outmanoeuvre or beat outright because of the recovery time and far superior balance.
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Kante is an example. He is a tank. Lets say you put him in a 50:50 situation against Lukaku, an imposing figure. Kante wins 100% of the time.
 
lefty_jakobz said:
I wanted Utd to buy him, great player, young, fast, strong will be fairly cheap as well. Watch the big teams chase him a season or two after he signs for £50m +
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Maybe even more than that if he does well, he's homegrown after all I've understood.

He will manslaughter Eredivisie players.
 
Grande said:
Certainly. But they played well. Carlos Tevez played very well, even if he was more of an enabler and less of a star than he had been used to, the trio of Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez had many uses and strengths, and was part of our best team ever in my opinion. In hindsight I also think Fergie could have handled him better when there was trouble, and he could have been one of the club’s all time favorites if Fergie had given him the same treatment he gave Nani. Off course, going to City blee that out of the window anyway.

Heinze was not brilliant, even if he was adored by many because of his no-nonsense gung ho attitude, he was like an Argentinian Nobby Stiles on LB. He was undoubtedly good, though, even if he wasn’t the quickest, the best attacking FB or brilliant in the air. He did a good job, and for a little while, he was sorely missed when Evra had settling in problems.
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Hopefully this time it turns out well.
 
Not to add fuel to the whole height thing as I have no problem with it but he actually might be shorter than his listed stat, looks to be around the same height as messi :lol:
 
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