Lisandro Martinez | Signs for United
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Compared to other CBs presumably?
Lisandro Martínez no longer trains at Ajax. In the next few hours, he will travel to Manchester to pass the medical examination and sign until June 2027. As anticipated, move closed at € 50M plus 5 in bonuses.
Love that!!
Her voice fecking does my head in.
I used to think that but I actually think she's quite nice now.
Handle Kane? The monstrous powerhouse who is an imperious athlete, or just a very good striker who will get the better of the majority of CB's he comes up against regardless, and irrespective of their height, leap, speed or whatever singular attribute you wish to apply?
Outliers are never the mean, and the cream of forwards do not even account for CL qualification. Those tussles can go either way on any given day. Whether Martinez comes in and proves himself to be outright top tier as an actual CB or DM is independent of his contribution to our play and offensive capacity. The guy can be responsible or chief contributor to point accumulation in more ways than one, which is enticing when talking about a team who is intending to squeeze the life out of the opposition.
I feel the views on him are ironically linear given the eclectic nature of his game and positional merits. If you look at him purely through the lens of defence for defendings sake, he is obviously a player who has it all to do to prove the doubters wrong, but if you look at him as a whole: passing, controlling, aggression, tactical insight and awareness as well as instinctive actions, he suddenly shoots up any tier list for a defender, but the problem people are having is that these types of defender are anachronistic throwbacks to the times of the 70's and 80's, so they don't know where to place or categorise them when compared to the modern CB who is lauded for being able to hit a 40yard pass let alone control the game and its flow from deep.
Martinez is one of very, very few of such a type there's been in England; I think you're going back to Buchan and Hansen for anything like this kind of influence, so it's completely foreign as a concept and evident in the way he is being discussed.
If we're playing a high line correctly, his pace should be the thing questioned not his height or heading prowess. And at corners, the whole team are set up to deal with every factor, so it should never be as binary as Martinez is to blame as opposed to a failure to set the team up correctly.
@golden_blunder ......I'm sure this is a welcome signing after watching those two clowns in the first half of the match today with their defending, lack of pace but more so inability to actually initiate an attack out of the back which is no wonder why all of our meaningful attacks came down the right hand side
She's one of us, South African (i think that's Melissa Reddy right?) but her accent is weird - think she's maybe trying too hard to not sound like a Saffer
.Like caught in the middle of a flat South African accent merged with a little bit of a UK one.
Isn't Melissa Reddy a Liverpool fan?She's one of us, South African (i think that's Melissa Reddy right?) but her accent is weird - think she's maybe trying too hard to not sound like a Saffer
Like caught in the middle of a flat South African accent merged with a little bit of a UK one.
Same here.
@TheReligion can you confirm?
Shaw, Martinez and De Jong as a left side is going to be unbelievable in buildup.
She's a Sadio Mane fan.
Shaw needs to to get running in behind rather than taking up central positions.
So she's our girl now and not Liverpool's?
Honestly not too arsed about him not flying all the way to Australia for a couple of days. He already knows ETH's system inside out so the value of it greatly diminishes compared to the other members of the squad working with the manager for the first time.
Just glad it got over the line and we'll have an injection of quality in the backline
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Id take her out for a fine seafood dinner and never call her again. Let’s put it that way.
Yeah, i think she is and the last i heard she was dating Sadio Mane (not sure how true that is). I think that's her in the video above, right?
Hopefully also leaving the bill for her to pay!
There's jetlag involved and also he needs to settle in Manchester somewhat. He needs to find a place to live and all the stuff related to that. I think its too tight, he can easily make the final two pre season games and be ready.
Eugh don’t start me on them. But hey, according to many we don’t need a new CB. It’s everyone else’s fault but laurel & hardy
When you’ve ordered the Lobster Thermidor it’s the only way.
You don’t sign a player as fundamentally different to every other centre back we have, and him come in as a back up.
I won’t even pretend to know that much about the player, but he’s quite clearly going to be central to ETH’s plans. Nobody signs a short arse centre back that passes like a midfielder if that’s not exactly what they want on the pitch. He’d be too unique to sit on the bench.
Indian from South Africa? Her last name is Reddy. That’s Indian.She's one of us, South African (i think that's Melissa Reddy right?) but her accent is weird - think she's maybe trying too hard to not sound like a Saffer
Like caught in the middle of a flat South African accent merged with a little bit of a UK one.
Yeah, South Africa has a fairly large Indian population bud. I say fairly large but im only talking about a couple of million possibly.
He’s not perfect, but on his day he’s an excellent shot stopper. I agree he isn’t great at commanding his box, but he’s actually gotten better at that. His mistakes cost us 2-3 goals a season. The poor defending by the fullbacks is more like 15-20.
Dalot is dreadful as a defender. I’ve said this 100 times over. Incredibly easy to turn, gambles too frequently.
Do we have a flight to track or what?
Edit: There is a KLM flight just took off from Schipol for Manchester. KL1079. Can't see any scheduled private jets so maybe he's on this.
Edit: There is a KLM flight just took off from Schipol for Manchester. KL1079. Can't see any scheduled private jets so maybe he's on this.
Yeah, absolutely true, most have the surname of Reddy, Naldoo, Pillay, Govender, Naicker etc.
Yep, fairly diverse aren't we?
She does me in that in another way, mate!
Who started? Will ten Hag try Lindelof at rb? Or will it be wan Bissaka and either lindelof or Martinez at dm? Seems like he wouldn’t. I would even rather have maguire there at DM to be honest.
Yeah seems like he would be best as RW, but i don’t even see his crosses doing anything. I really wonder if Erik reckons he could make a player out of Wan Bissaka
Lindelof and Maguire at CB. Mate, they were dreadful. Laird at RB did OK.
If he makes the timing right then he can disrupt any header, force mistake even if he doesn't win.
OTOH if any PL side takes the bait and decides to lob the ball all the time in our box - a la moyes - then all good. A ball playing side can kill such games.
OTOH if any PL side takes the bait and decides to lob the ball all the time in our box - a la moyes - then all good. A ball playing side can kill such games.
Everyone goes on about his height which is a potential problem but what about his speed? Everyone banged on and on and on about our CB's being too slow and we cant play a high line because of them and yada yada yada. Now its all of a sudden fine?
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