Lisandro Martinez | Man Utd player - Contract till 2027, with the option to extend for a further year
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That would mean Martinez starting at midfield. I just don't see it, Ten Hag said at his time at Ajax that Martinez didn't had the mobility to play there, and for all the reports I've seen both Martinez and Ten Hag agree he's a CB.
Varane will definitely miss many games due to injury or fitness, but when he's fit he'll definitely play. Maguire has just been confirmed as captain so I doubt he'll be benched.
I don't know, it will be interesting to see how this develops, I think Maguire will be ultimately dropped.
It’s just good that we’ve got different options to explore. Martinez and Varane would be my preferred choice and I think many others would agree but we all know Varane hardly plays due to a lot of injuries.
I agree, Martinez is left footed so he'll obviously play on the left side. That's Maguire's place. Maybe Ten Hag only reassured Maguire's captaincy so he didn't disrupt the squad and create unnecessary discomfort.
But it clear Maguire's doesn't suits Ten Hang style of play at all, being that slow doesn't allow us to properly play a high line. Any player with an ounce of pace will leave him in the dirt.
That's why I think Martinez will eventually overtake Maguire's place.
100%. Just think it’s going to be very difficult to get rid of him and out the team for good.
Having Martinez and his ability to perform in couple of positions is exactly what we need, that will give ETH several options and our team will be unpredictable to the oppositions because literally all the oppositions in last 3 years were able to predict our formation and at least 9 of our starting lineup
I understand that both the player and the manager expressed their opinions that he should play CB but I can easily see him starting as DM when both Maguire and Varane are available and from what I saw (which was really less ) I feel he is the DM we need as he is aggressive and good with ball and short for CB in premier league ( thank God Burnley relegated ), however he seems smart to compensate his short height when he plays CB ..... I am really optimistic with this butcher
I understand that both the player and the manager expressed their opinions that he should play CB but I can easily see him starting as DM when both Maguire and Varane are available and from what I saw (which was really less ) I feel he is the DM we need as he is aggressive and good with ball and short for CB in premier league ( thank God Burnley relegated ), however he seems smart to compensate his short height when he plays CB ..... I am really optimistic with this butcher
Oh we won't get rid of him until his contract runs out. He's an england international, he's on big wages and he's bang average.
He's became some king of a meme so I don't think any team would be willing to take him at his current conditions and I don't think Maguire's ego will settle for something less. We are stucked for another 3 years of him, hopefully the last two only as a part player.
Trust the manager on this one. Can't argue with the logic, we've been crying out for an aggressive little cnut for a while now. Only 24 as well, excited to see him in action!
She has never said that to me
Maguire played the first half on the RCB against the Aussies.
Who will drop back? We do not have enough midfielders to have 3 man in the middle.
Maguire or Lindelöf will battle it out for RCB unless Varane remains fit (not likely).
Ten Hag fills me with so much confidence, I struggle to put my finger on exactly why outside of the obvious of his record but something about him just screams "top level, modern coach".
Worrying
It's the baldness
same. Maybe it's just the honeymoon phase of having a new manager, but I'm very confident in his ideas and abilities.
Sort of had a similar feeling with Ralf because he is a good coach and has a proper system but it was evident very soon it wouldn’t work out. It’s different with EtH.
Not really, it could mean Varane/Bailly take that role instead. As long as it means no Lindelof we're good.
Wether we play mctominay deeper, martinez or de Jong… when we’re attacking and I’ve noticed it in pre season the full backs push high up and one of the mids drops back. De Jong likes playing this role which is why we want him so bad. Can create from deep.
That’s what he should be a rotation and squad player but like you said because of his big wages and his price tag he’s expecting to start every game but why shouldn’t we have a 80/85m player on the bench? City have a ton of expensive bench players. I think the club is just worried about all the negative talk about how an 80m defender who starts for England can’t start for one of the biggest clubs.
Playing for United is a tall order. Seems many here don't think Martinez is up for the challenge. Perhaps, however, he will reach greater heights than they anticipate.
Because we're not ruthless, and the "big signing fee must play and continue to captain the team" even is he's a complete liability.
Madrid has Hazard on the bench. I think Ten Hag will eventually bench him if Varane can stay fit. The problem is to do it softly so the squad doesn't get too unsettled. Stripping him off the captaincy and relegating him to the bench without an opportunity to play under Ten Hag would have completely destroyed Maguire's confidence.
Tells you exactly why he signed him and where he expects to play him....Said it all last season that we struggled badly when building out of the back down our left side b/c none of the CB's were left footed nor were they comfortable having to play extended passes with their left. Everything always went short to a CM or to the LB.
Right so Ten Hag has cleared the nonsense up; he’s bought to go into the team not the squad and he will play CB because he thinks the left side of defense is shit
so feck off with that midfield shite
so feck off with that midfield shite
I like how he emphasized on "fighting spirit and we need it". ETH trying to fill behaviour gap as well as skill gap.
Sounds like the CB we signed after spending all summer looking to sign a CB will be playing CB. Who would have guessed?
Yeah second this. It stood out to me as well this statement. He's absolutely correct.
He's also right we the fans love a combative player
Seems Erik has a handle on all things.On Martinez' height: "he is a strong guy and duel is one of his capabilities"
Ive said before i think TH had just started so the easy option was to keep Maguire captain for now. I wouldnt be surprised if this changes as the season goes, as i can see maguire on the bench and Verane alongside Martinez
Work permit taking too long we need to pull the plug and moonwalk away
They have found something wrong with his application. He will be on the next flight to Rwanda
I fixed it for you.
I have to say, despite my reservations regarding his height and suitability to the PL, I am really looking forward to seeing him play. If nothing else it will be a joy to see an aggressive front foot defender after having to suffer years of watching Maguire & Lindelof’s wet tissue, deer caught in the headlights, routine every time someone runs at them.
Thinking about it, a Bailly/Martinez partnership would be brilliant to watch just for the entertainment factor alone. Not sure it would end well but it would be fun while it lasted.
On a serious note, I think a Varane/Martinez partnership makes the most sense on paper. Just providing the former can stay fit for more then 3 games in a row.
Thinking about it, a Bailly/Martinez partnership would be brilliant to watch just for the entertainment factor alone. Not sure it would end well but it would be fun while it lasted.
On a serious note, I think a Varane/Martinez partnership makes the most sense on paper. Just providing the former can stay fit for more then 3 games in a row.
As things stand we have 3 midfielders (McTominay, Fred, van de Beek). Neither of Bruno and Eriksen will be playing in midfield.
We won't be playing 3 man midfield with that bunch of players.
So Eriksen didn’t play deeper for Brentford no? Your saying that only 1 of Bruno and Eriksen will play at a time next season?
I'm sure neither of them will be playing deeper on regular basis, the reason for that is we don't have a natural DM who can cover for them.
I don't think we will be playing Eriksen and Bruno at the same time, OR Bruno will be pushed forward as he's more of an attacker anyway (his effectiveness drops drastically around mid circle for couple of reasons).
So to sum up, even if we consider Eriksen a midfielder, I don't think we will be playing 3 man midfield because that leaves only one midfielder on the bench. So yeah, back to 2 man midfield IMO.
I'm sincerely hoping Lisandro Martinez can do the job I expected Declan Rice to do for us if he joined.
A combination of dropping down into the centreback area and pushing up in the midfield to either intercept (if without the ball) or pass forward (with the ball), as the game demands.
A combination of dropping down into the centreback area and pushing up in the midfield to either intercept (if without the ball) or pass forward (with the ball), as the game demands.
That’s true, maybe if we sign a specialist DM it could work. What are your thoughts on savage and Zidane? I wouldn’t be surprised to see them in and around the first team squad this season looking at how there playing in pre season, they’d make up the numbers, also we are more then likely going to sign a midfielder wether it’s de Jong or an alternative. The problem we have is that we don’t have a single holding midfielder which will be preventing us from playing a 4-3-3. I do think eriksen could work in a 2/3 man midfield if Bruno plays as a false 9 and we have eriksen, Fred and VDB, could work against the lower teams and teams we should dominate.