If we give him money, we should also get a couple of years extension on his deal, no?
6
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 45
- Clean sheets
- 20
- Goals
- 1
- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
- 10
- Status
He has played well but surely he has performed as what we should expect given the size of the transfer fee?
I'm sure footballers know the salary of each other. If he doesn't, his agent surely knows. So the club has to be careful, it's good to keep players from getting overpaid but at the same time, you want to keep your best players from feeling underappreciated. We no longer have Woodward so if the club decided to give him a raise, it must be justified. And seeing how we play without him... I think it's the correct decision as his wages must be kinda low compared to most of our players after coming from AJAX.
Its probably linked with CL football. The players already at the club took a paycut for missing out on CL football this season, so some of the new signings would've been on the same terms.
Someone like Casemiro might have been in a negotiating position to have had that waived.
Someone like Casemiro might have been in a negotiating position to have had that waived.
Rather give big bonuses than pay rise after 1 season
It’s been a general problem with United to pay high salaries which make players impossible to sell. In this very case it could very well be however that he’s on a low salary and deserves a raise. A bit United though to increase salary for a player who is long term injured.
For me he has been our most consistent player, i would honestly call him world class. It's amazing how good he has been. If his wages are low compared to the rest of the squad he definitely deserves a rise that reflects his performances on the pitch.
The most insecure club on the planet. We throw money at players as if it's confetti
If there's no new contract, it'll surely be some terms in his current one that'll trigger the wage rise. I can't really see even us just handing out more money without getting a deal extended.
It'll be something like his wage would go up to whatever next season if he made x starts in this one, or tied to CL qualification as others have said.
It'll be something like his wage would go up to whatever next season if he made x starts in this one, or tied to CL qualification as others have said.
Equally most gullible and naive fanbase who would believe anything even if it's coming from garbage sources to shit on Club .
He's had an amazing season, but do we really need to throw money like that?
Yeah. And the article is definitely true
If his reported £120k wage is true and is going to be upped to £170k then I wouldn't have a problem with it. It's still half of what Varane earns and is still below Maguires wage.
We shot ourselves in the foot when upping players wages like Rashford and Martial, then giving Sancho a ludicrous contract and paying Antony 200k. It's true our wage bill needs to be brought under control but paying Martinez £170k shouldn't be the place to start as I think the general consensus is he's well worth the money.
I’m bricked up
Miss you Licha.
Akin to my earlier post about a salary increase, why are we doing this after 1 season?
Because he deserves it?
It will also make it easier to sign players this summer without being screwed out of an insane up front salary. We’ll review your salary in a year. Just like we did with Martinez.
This. Why people get triggered by this sort of stuff is a mystery to me. Especially with Martinez. He's been outstanding.
I know he's out for the season, but every time I see this thread bumped, my initial thought is some breaking news he'll be fit for the final 
An absolute leader and model of consistency. Giving him more money is not a concern.
As a reward for adapting from a weaker league and being so important to the team? Happiness to ward off interest from other clubs?
Imagine being a South American earning 1/3 of Varanes wages and being on a lower salary than Maguire and complaining about it...
especially after the season he's had.You lot do know that these types of players have La Liga as their primary destination right? Last thing you want to do is make them feel unhappy or underpaid
Don't get this at all. A 5-year contract is a 5-year contract!
It's been one season. Yes, he's done very well, but no better than any other player we spent £50m on. I fully expect his contract represents his value based on that transfer fee.
If Real Madrid were genuinely sniffing around, then by all means persuade him to stay with a pay rise. However, who seriously is likely to come in with a transfer bid this summer? Not even his agent could try persuade us that this was true.
Let the player reward his employer with a positive second season and we'll talk about a new contract next summer. An increased wage now would be millions down the drain. Who's to say that he doesn't get another big injury next season and we've just extended the contract of the new Phil Jones?
The important thing is to be paying players what they are “worth” - not more but also not less. We’ve often got this wrong, it’s true, but reviewing contracts is sensible. We need to reward the right players for the right reasons.
This guy is becoming one of our best players so it makes sense to keep him happy.
He wasnt being paid as one of our best players because he came in from the Netherlands and may not have adapted as well as he did. Now we want to make sure he feels valued and wants to stay. Would you rather we just sell him this summer or next because another team wants him more than us?
Surely given the state of club ownership this is something that is being triggered if we finish Top4.
The club is poorly run but a wage increase with no extension should be investigated by the FCA.
The club is poorly run but a wage increase with no extension should be investigated by the FCA.
‘No better than any other player we spent £50 million on…’ Really? Christ, he’s probably been better than several of them while spread out on a hospital bed!
WHO?! Seriously, who is going to to come in for him this summer, especially considering he his injured until pre-season? No one!
What if multiple teams come in for him next summer after a decent season... He'll have another 3 years left on his contract. If he throws his toys out the pram about wanting a move (which will show his true colours), we demand a highly inflated fee of at least £80m and make a profit for once. If a fee can't be agreed, then clearly those clubs (Real Madrid, PSG) don't want him enough and we restore power. He can either sulk in the reserves (unlikely) or accept our then improved contract offer and continue playing.
Regardless of whether the Glazers continue (**shudder**) or new owners come in, the wage structure at the club needs to be reset. Just because a new signing has a good season as a key player does not mean they should instantly be looking at the salary ladder. We're Manchester United. Despite our current turmoil, there are still only a limited few clubs who could attract our players away with fame and fortune. We offer that in their first contract, so a much bigger wage is all that will appear more attractive. In addition, Real Madrid and PSG both seem to be on paths to rebuild with youth and have financial restrictions of their own, so let's see one of them double Martinez's contract.
He's under contract. Honour the bloody contract (at least for 2-3 seasons).
Did you predict City would sign Akanji?
You have no idea who is interested. But teams were last summer, including us, and he just had a good season in a stronger league so most likely stronger clubs are now interested
I don't see the relevance of your point. Akanji (a Dortmund player) was always available to the bigger sharks in the transfer market like City. United are linked with virtually every player who may be open to a transfer in the summer. Our interest was never proven. Are you suggesting City may bid for Martinez?
Regardless, once we acquire that player, they are more or less 'banked' until we decide to let them go via transfer or on a free. How many players of worth since Ronaldo can you remember forcing a move away through?
100% agree with your post.
Seems like the United-way is handing out new in ‘good favor’ just to please anyone who’s had a good season or even patches (‘patches’ is not aimed at Martinez). No wonder we find ourselves in the mess that we’re in trying to get rid of players for decent fees..
Give him a 6 year contract so he's locked in til 31
I'm suggesting what I suggested. You have no idea if teams are interested in Lisandro and wont be able to predict every CB that teams go for. The club are a lot more likely to know about interest, and tying him down suggests there was enough to warrant it.
If there's one player that I don't mind getting an improved and extended contract, it's this guy. Been absolutely fantastic the entire season, he's a warrior and a leader, and we have missed him greatly since his injury. Delighted that we signed him.
Well deserved
nothing to see here
nothing to see here
So you're suggesting Martinez could be lured away by clubs other than Real Madrid or PSG? I would therefore consider you as someone who doesn't understand modern-day football and Manchester United very well.
Manchester United is the pinnacle of most players careers. If Martinez is leaving the club in the next few seasons, it is because United want that and not Martinez. Unfortunately, the rumours about a new contract are most certainly true. This doesn't mean interest has been shown; this just means we are doing the same old routine as we have done for years under this ownership.
I'm all for positivity but this seems unnecessarily premature. I know it's become a rarity for us to sign players that are actually a success, but is this the done thing with other clubs? Do City, Liverpool etc give out significantly improved terms less than a year in? I can see this making sense this time next year, but this feels hasty.
The thing here is that people talk about the transfer fee, but this ones normally do not end in the player's pockets.
So if you have a team with wages way above your new acquisition, a move increasing his salary it's not a bad move if you consider this player as an important piece to build your future team.
Also it's not just the great season he had, the technical ability is there to be seen and when adding the mental strength and leadership qualities, making him feel appreciated is a good thing.
More than probably also, the wages thing was talked since he signed the contract, sthg in the lines of "ok you'll have way lower wages than Harry and cia, but if I/you proof my/your worth, we'll sit again".
I won't be surprised if his agent, himself or even the club talked about it since minute one, more than probably the club arranged a below par wages explaining that they have paid a handsome sum to Ajax and asked him to make that "sacrifice" in the negotiations.
All of this obviously just imagining a more than probable scenario.
PD1: In a general sense (leaving this case in particular aside, because Licha always have put his career above other matters since he started, yet he is no longer an struggling youngster trying to find his place, he now knows his value) suitors will always appear if the player starts to feel underappreciated, it's the first thing agents want to do in order to gain extra bucks in a transfer.
PD2: yes many clubs do it, City made the same with Alvarez recently just as an example.
So if you have a team with wages way above your new acquisition, a move increasing his salary it's not a bad move if you consider this player as an important piece to build your future team.
Also it's not just the great season he had, the technical ability is there to be seen and when adding the mental strength and leadership qualities, making him feel appreciated is a good thing.
More than probably also, the wages thing was talked since he signed the contract, sthg in the lines of "ok you'll have way lower wages than Harry and cia, but if I/you proof my/your worth, we'll sit again".
I won't be surprised if his agent, himself or even the club talked about it since minute one, more than probably the club arranged a below par wages explaining that they have paid a handsome sum to Ajax and asked him to make that "sacrifice" in the negotiations.
All of this obviously just imagining a more than probable scenario.
PD1: In a general sense (leaving this case in particular aside, because Licha always have put his career above other matters since he started, yet he is no longer an struggling youngster trying to find his place, he now knows his value) suitors will always appear if the player starts to feel underappreciated, it's the first thing agents want to do in order to gain extra bucks in a transfer.
PD2: yes many clubs do it, City made the same with Alvarez recently just as an example.
- Status