Lionel Messi

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sammsky1 said:
* - Your lot can't even win a proper title. And even when you do win some diluted disputed version, celebrating in an empty stadium and on a laptop in your bedroom, because the Mrs wont allow you to watch it on TV in ihefront room, no-one gives a crap just a few weeks after.

Case in point: look at you, here on a United forum desperately seeking relevance. :lol::lol:
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Look at this beauty, full on attack mode on Liverpool, irrelevant just like your last reply since I never even mentioned them, because you know I'm right and your initial post was full of shite. I'd put some more asterisks in your next one or make it an ever bigger one just to get your point across.
 
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Gasolin said:
At 33, I don't think it makes sense to see him at United but I might be wrong.
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On a free though. Wages are huge but he's absolutely worth it. Can't see most clubs refusing Messi. It's about whether they can afford him and he wants to go there.
 
RobinLFC said:
Look at this beauty, full on attack mode on Liverpool, irrelevant just like your last reply since I never even mentioned them, because you know I'm right and your initial post was full of shite. I'd put some more asterisks in your next one or make it an ever bigger one just to get your point across.
Some pathetic poster you are, man.
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Truth hurts hey? :lol:

PS: you stated Liverpool or its players 5 times in one short body of text.
 
As disgusting as it would be seeing him in a City shirt to see probably the best player of all time playing in the league i watch every week would be amazing,

So yeah, if it's him going to PSG or City, i would hope he goes to City.
 
sammsky1 said:
Truth hurts hey? :lol:
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I'm glad you desperately avoided to reply to my arguments because now I definitely know I was right.

Anyway enjoy rubbing another one out over the thought of Messi at Utd, I'll leave you to it.
 
JXCK said:
As disgusting as it would be seeing him in a City shirt to see probably the best player of all time playing in the league i watch every week would be amazing,
So yeah, if it's him going to PSG or City, i would hope he goes to City.
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And therein lies an existential threat to United. We'd immediately stop acquiring new fans, and would lose many existing ones too. Messi succeeding at City would establish them at the premier club in the region for an entire generation. They would sell out their stadium and become the most watched team on TV in UK/world.
 
JXCK said:
As disgusting as it would be seeing him in a City shirt to see probably the best player of all time playing in the league i watch every week would be amazing,

So yeah, if it's him going to PSG or City, i would hope he goes to City.
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Issue is it cements City as a superpower as a team at that point.

The GOAT player signing for City, it actually shows them as a team that interests a player like Messi.

It's all positive PR for City too. When City attracted players like De Bruyne it was different, he was leaving Wolfsburg, but leaving Barca for City as the GOAT? it's a huge deal.

Parallels to when City tried to get Kaka as their first big player and he left to go to Madrid with Ronaldo, now we're a decade on and if Messi goes there it truly shows how much United have regressed.

Ronaldo went to Juventus, Neymar to PSG, the name Manchester United under SAF was revered now it just feels like it's hard to get players to come.

Messi to City really does show who the biggest team in Manchester and England are currently.

United need to seriously attract Messi and Sancho in this window, if United really are a superpower in world football, and if they are a commercial powerhouse then screwing this up has major issues down the line, Sancho is a player United can't miss out on, but Messi available now for free? allowing City to get him is also catastrophic.

Once SAF said "If United want a player they'll get him" now it really doesn't feel that way.
 
No doubt in my mind that City's valuation would soar past ours within 5 years if they pull this off. They'd almost instantly become the 'It' club in the world honesty

Kind of why I expect the club to attempt to respond in kind as they still think in business terms above all and that possibility would be quite bad for business
 


"Messi at Juve? Adidas leaders like the idea"

Are the cnuts at Adidas aware that we are a far bigger brand than Juve?!
 
sammsky1 said:
And therein lies an existential threat to United. We'd immediately stop acquiring new fans, and would lose many existing ones too. Messi succeeding at City would establish them at the premier club in the region for an entire generation. They would sell out their stadium and become the most watched team on TV in UK/world.
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Messi going to city would ruin the one thing the Glazers and Ed care about most. The 'Manchester United brand'. Sponsors, new fans, etc will flock to City.
 
peridigm said:
Top 10 reasons why I hope City can get him.

10) Would get to see one of the greatest players of my generation play every week in the PL, albeit his feigning years. I don't watch Spanish football except for the occasional el Classico.
9) Could put pressure on the board to obtain Ole's targets as it would mean increasing the gap further between City and United if they don't.
8) Would narrow the gap between City and Liverpool. More wishful thinking but there is a chance.
7) Would possibly destabilize the City squad due to his wages. Then again, City got around that by secretly paying their players from outside sources so this probably won't happen.
6) FFP - see #7.
5) Messi vs the best RB in the league. Am I right?
4) Ed Woodward will stop chasing him and move on to more obtainable targets.
3) Messi would tear Spurs apart resulting in Jose sticking his finger in Juan Manuel Lillo's eye.
2) We may finally get an answer to the age old question of whether Messi can do it on a cold wet night at Stoke. Okay, maybe not unless Stoke are promoted next season or City get them in one of the cups.
1) Would be Ole's first real test vs City.
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Number 9 is the only one that really matters to us
 
Utd7 said:
Messi going to city would ruin the one thing the Glazers and Ed care about most. The 'Manchester United brand'. Sponsors, new fans, etc will flock to City.
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Yeah all the new generation of fans would definitely start supporting City
 
Utd7 said:
Messi going to city would ruin the one thing the Glazers and Ed care about most. The 'Manchester United brand'. Sponsors, new fans, etc will flock to City.
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It will be the biggest signing in the history of the premier league.

If they can pull it off.

I'm still not convinced. Its not coincidental that Messi has one year left on his contract and was in negotiations for a renewal.
 
Utd7 said:
Messi going to city would ruin the one thing the Glazers and Ed care about most. The 'Manchester United brand'. Sponsors, new fans, etc will flock to City.
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Agreed, it's a commercial failure for United.

Adidas also being the kit manufacturer would want Messi at an Adidas team like United or Juventus.

United are also due to replace Chevrolet next year, and as a sporting brand to attract suitors means big players in the transfer window.

The Sancho front seems dead, and Messi going to the major rivals is just not good.

When Guardiola signed you felt it was bad, Liverpool rising and winning their first league in 30 years was a major blow this year, and then losing out on the GOAT to City for "the biggest team in the world", the major sporting brand that is Manchester United just shows the regression of the team and the board.

How many more years is that going to persist? being beaten by rivals, falling further and further down FIFA rankings.

This Summer should be:
  • Get Messi on a free (would only show on the finances next summer post-covid)
  • Get Sancho at a world record fee (instalment payments)
  • Offload Mata, Lingard, Rojo, Pereira
That would show what Ed Woodward said about United "doing things in the transfer market other teams can dream of" and it would make United a global superpower again.

Right now its flat as always, City being the first option is worrying signs for the history of the club.
 
DevilRed said:
It will be the biggest signing in the history of the premier league.

If they can pull it off.

I'm still not convinced. Its not coincidental that Messi has one year left on his contract and was in negotiations for a renewal.
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Yeah it would easily be the biggest premier league signing ever by an absolute country mile, cannot think that one which even comes close in terms of world status
 
croadyman said:
Yeah it would easily be the biggest premier league signing ever by an absolute country mile, cannot think that one which even comes close in terms of world status
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I find it hard to believe that after passing on Sanchez and Maguire, they would spend that type of money on messi, fully knowing it could bring back the wrath of FFP and all kinds of other issues within their squad.

This is going to be a great summer for the shithouse "journos". Between this and Sancho they must be masturbating themselves silly.
 
RobinLFC said:
Look at this beauty, full on attack mode on Liverpool, irrelevant just like your last reply since I never even mentioned them, because you know I'm right and your initial post was full of shite. I'd put some more asterisks in your next one or make it an ever bigger one just to get your point across.

Some pathetic poster you are, man.
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And look at you. Belgian Liverpool supporter spending his time on a Utd forum, letting everyone know how you don't give a feck about Utd and it's history. Definitely not pathetic. Just piss off from this forum then, because I'm fairly sure no one gives a feck about you either.
 
I can’t imagine Messi and his family being happy in Manchester for 2-3 years. Wherever he goes will he demand that the club signs Suarez or someone else as well so he has his mates around him? Or maybe he would be fine as Aguero & Co are already in Manchester / at City.
A lot of question marks but regardless of what all the journalists say, I still believe he will stay at Barca.
 
simmee said:
And look at you. Belgian Liverpool supporter spending his time on a Utd forum, letting everyone know how you don't give a feck about Utd and it's history. Definitely not pathetic. Just piss off from this forum then, because I'm fairly sure no one gives a feck about you either.
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Luckily I mainly spend my time in the NBA and NFL thread where there's actual civilized discussions to be had, rather than in the football forums with people like yourself, yes.

Have a nice day!
 
DevilRed said:
I find it hard to believe that after passing on Sanchez and Maguire, they would spend that type of money on messi, fully knowing it could bring back the wrath of FFP and all kinds of other issues within their squad.

This is going to be a great summer for the shithouse "journos". Between this and Sancho they must be masturbating themselves silly.
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Wish that was the case but when you are getting such strong sources talking up this deal then clearly City have no concerns about this affecting their FFP at all
 
united_99 said:
I can’t imagine Messi and his family being happy in Manchester for 2-3 years. Wherever he goes will he demand that the club signs Suarez or someone else as well so he has his mates around him? Or maybe he would be fine as Aguero & Co are already in Manchester / at City.
A lot of question marks but regardless of what all the journalists say, I still believe he will stay at Barca.
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If they were BS journalists it wouldn't be so bad but they aren't
 
RobinLFC said:
Luckily I mainly spend my time in the NBA and NFL thread where there's actual civilized discussions to be had, rather than in the football forums with people like yourself, yes.

Have a nice day!
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You were the one that made the discussion uncivilized... I really could not care less where you spend your time. Try to stay on topic when you post in the football forum at least.
 
united_99 said:
I can’t imagine Messi and his family being happy in Manchester for 2-3 years. Wherever he goes will he demand that the club signs Suarez or someone else as well so he has his mates around him? Or maybe he would be fine as Aguero & Co are already in Manchester / at City.
A lot of question marks but regardless of what all the journalists say, I still believe he will stay at Barca.
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Underrated point. Not disrespect to the city of Manchester. But going from Barcelona to Manchester is a MASSIVE adjustment. I've visited both cities. Some don't settle (di Maria). Others (Aguero) do.

Perhaps happiness/mental well being are more important than ever before during a pandemic. The needs of his family could be more important now than ever before.
 
mu4c_20le said:
A GOAT cannot be used as a propaganda tool for oil monarchs. I'm more concerned about the becoming a spokesman part of it.
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I get the moral quandries but it's not rare unfortunately in a world where you've had Brazilian GOAT's like Ronalidnho, Rivaldo and Kaka publicly supporting autocrats in their own country
 
croadyman said:
Yeah it would easily be the biggest premier league signing ever by an absolute country mile, cannot think that one which even comes close in terms of world status
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You don't need to consider "PL" on this scale as it would be the biggest signing of all time simply for the fact the story was written and Messi was supposed to retire a 1-club legend at Barcelona.

It's the equivalent of Pele leaving Santos when he was a national treasure, which... didn't actually happen until they allowed him to (the Brazilian government that is).

Some state Messi as the greatest player of all time - a player of that stature going anywhere is the greatest coup in that club's history and the filter effects on the league itself is also enormous.

You can bet the PL and its sponsors, as well as the UK media are all absolutely drooling at the thought.

City's profile will also go through the roof instantneously.

The great irony of Messi going to any other club and there being no fans in stadiums to witness it is as twisted as it gets, too.
 
RobinLFC said:
I never said that. But there are reasons why City and PSG are the teams most mentioned - if Utd are even mentioned at all, it's because you're one of the only teams that could potentially pay him but let's be real, it's nothing more than a pipe dream imo. Fair enough if you disagree with that and you think you're a realistic destination for him, but I think you definitely are not. Neither are Liverpool by the way, not in a million years, so I'm not trying to shit on your team or anything like that.

The sheer arrogance (and ignorance) of the post I quoted is what ticked me off. You're not that special anymore compared to a lot of other clubs out there. And there have been hundreds of players in the last decade or so that have proven that history means little to nothing for them. Messi is known in every single corner of the world. Whether he plays for the 3th or 8th most supported club in the world, or 15th, it won't matter to him at all.
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I would agree with your assessment. United will only be in because we might afford to somehow pay his wages.

Him coming to United might or might not make United title contenders, but the global eyeballs will be even more on United with us already even leading the pack in terms of global fans even under the worst situation the club is under since Fergie retired.

It is simple that if Messi goes to City or Liverpool, it's game over for the rest as Messi will guarantee the title as City and Liverpool have a base and know their system very well and can adapt to bring the best out of Messi.

Ole at this stage cannot because in this case the player will be bigger than the manager. If this was 1 or 2 more years down the line with Ole proving himself with a title or a cup win, then things would have been more better and Messi might have even thought about coming to United. Right now United might not even be in his thoughts.

We are right now what Liverpool were, dreaming of the old days and how great we were and how big of a club we were. We are getting better but it might be another 2-3 years without losing focus to challenge City and Liverpool which is tough.
 
Fortitude said:
You don't need to consider "PL" on this scale as it would be the biggest signing of all time simply for the fact the story was written and Messi was supposed to retire a 1-club legend at Barcelona.

It's the equivalent of Pele leaving Santos when he was a national treasure, which... didn't actually happen until they allowed him to (the Brazilian government that is).

Some state Messi as the greatest player of all time - a player of that stature going anywhere is the greatest coup in that club's history and the filter effects on the league itself is also enormous.

You can bet the PL and its sponsors, as well as the UK media are all absolutely drooling at the thought.

City's profile will also go through the roof instantneously.

The great irony of Messi going to any other club and there being no fans in stadiums to witness it is as twisted as it gets, too.
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Yeah actually your right it could be the biggest transfer ever even surpassing the likes of Zidane & Ronaldo moving to Real & Inter Milan respectively in their prime
 
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