That's friggin brilliant
Brilliant player, little Leo Messi. So easy on the eye to watch
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That's friggin brilliant
Brilliant player, little Leo Messi. So easy on the eye to watch
I read that Godfrey Chitalu with 107 goals in 1972 should actually hold the record for most goals in a calender year...
the zambian football federation says that the alleged 107 goals are not official
http://www.fazfootball.com/content/super-league-history/
http://www.fazfootball.com/content/super-league-history/
Thats a great infoposter!
Shows how similar they are to each other statswise in their record breaking years.
Nice one Brwned!
I'm going with the Godfather.
taken from the newbies
The defending... Oh my god, the defending!
Let's see him try that when he's playing against Clint Hill
I thought it was Matthaus?
He'll get >107 next year just to clear any doubts.
Even worse is that Zico has piped up now and says that he scored 89 goals in a calendar year. It is incredible that one player beats a record and then the others will come out of the woodwork. Why don't we go as far to say that Bican could have held the record at some point. He scored 57 goals in 24 matches which is phenomenal, and considering Muller was at 1.4 goals per game and Messi is at 1.3, Bican was at 2 goals per game. If, and it is a big if; Bican had continued to score like that then, he would have scored 114 goals in 48 matches. However, it doesn't work like that in the real-life, and it is still impressive to score 2 goals a game in 24 consecutive matches.
The record is artificial to begin with. I find his 50 goal season more remarkable.
These are a few of Bican stats:
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|Season |Club |Games|Goals|
|1938/39|Slavia Prague|20 |29 |
|1939/40|Slavia Prague|22 |50 |
|1940/41|Slavia Prague|22 |38 |
|1941/42|Slavia Prague|22 |45 |
|1942/43|Slavia Prague|20 |39 |
|1943/44|Slavia Prague|26 |57 |
|1945/46|Slavia Prague|16 |31 |
|1946/47|Slavia Prague|23 |43 |
|1947/48|Slavia Prague|13 |20 |he reached 90 today
how many games more this year?
how many games more this year?
Freak.
It's just a pleasure to watch him. Out of this world.
I try and watch him as often as i can because he will be talked about for years and years to come, we will never see the like of him again!
Pleasure to say i saw him score i live play, 09 rome CL final
Wasn't even that good today, but still provided two quality finishes. Second one was a bit of a cock up from the Madrid defence to be fair, but the first was great.
Even though it WAS a cock up from the defense, he still gets some credit for pressuring them getting the ball back IMO.
If Messi scores a hat-trick in his next league game and Ronaldo fails to score, he'll have double the amount of league goals in the same number of appearances... Insane 
Typical Messi that finish, too.
Falcao's goal reminded me of Messi a lot, funnily enough. A bit like Van Nistelrooy's against Arsenal in a way too.
Falcao's goal reminded me of Messi a lot, funnily enough. A bit like Van Nistelrooy's against Arsenal in a way too.
No one comes close to this guy.
If Messi scores a hat-trick in his next league game and Ronaldo fails to score, he'll have double the amount of league goals in the same number of appearances... Insane
The Real Madrid of this season is a bit like the Barcelona of last season, they have to rely on one player. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be working out for him that well because apart from scoring long-range efforts, his individual skill in small spaces leaves a lot to be desired. This is why the gulf between the two players is naturally getting wider and wider. With Falcao also joining in, it won't be long before we have a Messi v Falcao, such is the quality of this player.
Cal will still maintain that Ronaldo ought to win POTY because Real won the league last season, completely neglecting the fact that Barcelona are currently 13 points ahead of them which basically means they've won the league.
if we play barca in the CL this season and messi shits on us again, I can't be mad. how can you get mad when you witness greatness like that.
It is quite understandable. I can remember Ronaldo being a great deal better than Messi then, the Champions League Final put paid to that argument. Ever since then, Messi simply has got better and better. Ronaldo has done well, let us be honest about that, but when you are a big name player and the team is missing players that generally score for the team, then you have to take the mantle, you have to do the scoring. Messi had Villa until December of last year then, he had only the likes of Pedro or Sanchez. These two cannot even be compared to the likes of Higuain and Benzema.
The problem is that although Ronaldo scored yesterday, his arrogance in taking virtually every shot whilst he has teammates in better positions to score, could actually be the downfall of Real Madrid.
Back to Messi though, he really is stepping up his game a notch and finally putting some clear daylight between the two as far as I'm concerned.
Indeed, would you prefer to lose against a Barcelona side with Messi scoring the winning goal in the Champions League or lose against West Ham, with Carroll scoring the winning goal in the league?
If only Sir Alex had sent scouts over years ago.
Uno...Valladolid at the Zorrilla
I was just thinking that the ideal CL final would be against Barca with Messi scoring a hat trick, Rooney scoring a hat trick and Van Persie getting the winner in injury time, with a volley like one he got against Everton last season.
Personally I really don't want to lose against Barca in a final again. Messi or no Messi. I will tell you now that I would be delighted if he got injured before the game.
I mean fo 2012, Cal reckons Ronaldo should win it for 2012. A year when Messi broke Gerd Muller's record from 70s by at least 4 goals.
One question we need to ask ourselves though, is Messi capable of beating his 50 goal in a La Liga season? All he needs is another 26 goals (according to La Marca), 25 goals according to everyone else. In knowing that he has another 22 games to play. Suffice to say that if he continues like this until the end of the season, I can see him getting 60+, and he might be tempted to beat his own record for goals in a calendar year.
At the start of the season Ronaldo had a solid case for the Ballon d'Or but now it's impossible.
The difference between him and Ronaldo is greater than the difference between Ronaldo and whoever is the third best player in the world(Xavi, Iniesta, Falcao, RVP etc)
This is probably true now. Worth keeping in mind as well that Ronaldo is probably going to taper off his peak now. He is going to be 28 soon and has been at his peak since 2006. That's a good amount of time for any footballer to be at his absolute best. I reckon he has at best another 2 monster seasons in him. Messi is 25 and it all really seems set up for him to be at his absolute best in 2014 when he will be 27 with WC looming over him. Ronaldo did as well as he could to keep himself in a conversation against the best of all time, the difference will start to widen now.
Looks like the process already has started to happen.
I think that he might have lost a little bit of motivation, he probably realises that Messi cannot be caught, and with Madrid's ambivalent/arrogant attitude towards him, he is probably thinking 'what is the point'.
For me though, Ronaldo is one of the very greatest of all time too. Like you say, he came close to keeping up with Messi for a number of years but Messi just kept getting better and better - and better and better. Better than anyone who has been before.
Cal is a clown though.
You really do wonder how he does all that, it is incredible. Would really be interesting to see how well he does for another team than Barcelona (preferably United ) and if he could keep up that level
) and if he could keep up that levelIt is an interesting one actually. Has Ronaldo's standing in the game fallen due to playing in Messi era or risen? His consistency in any other era would have won him at least one more individual award, most probably two more. With 3 of those he would have invited comparisons with likes of Platini.
34 goals already this season
Christ almighty, I'd be blooming dead excited if RvP or Rooney manages that in a whole season!
He's only 25 years old as well. You are talking about another 7-8 years at the top if he can stay clear of injuries. How many more records will he have broken? How many more goals will he have scored? How many more Ballon d'Ors will he have won? How many more trophies with Barca?
It's mind boggling.
Christ almighty, I'd be blooming dead excited if RvP or Rooney manages that in a whole season!
He's only 25 years old as well. You are talking about another 7-8 years at the top if he can stay clear of injuries. How many more records will he have broken? How many more goals will he have scored? How many more Ballon d'Ors will he have won? How many more trophies with Barca?
It's mind boggling.
34 goals already this season
Christ almighty, I'd be blooming dead excited if RvP or Rooney manages that in a whole season!
He's only 25 years old as well. You are talking about another 7-8 years at the top if he can stay clear of injuries. How many more records will he have broken? How many more goals will he have scored? How many more Ballon d'Ors will he have won? How many more trophies with Barca?
It's mind boggling.
It'd be a bit of a shock if he didn't at least double his current total of 3 and it's not absurd to think he'll treble that and win something like 9 awards in 10 years. If he continues this form until the end of the season he'll be 3/4 of the way there to winning 5 in a row, the next award will go to a World Cup star. If he pulled that off he'd have double the amount of any player at the age of 28. Maradona and Pele weren't eligible, Di Stefano could easily have won a couple more awards at Madrid in the three years preceding the Ballon D'or and Van Basten won his 3rd at 28 and was on course to improve on that before injury took him out. Even then I'm not sure any of them would have won 6 Ballon D'ors let alone 6 in a row. One World Cup could do that for Messi.
This'll be Messi's 4th year in a row in which he's improved his goal tally which is something none of Pelé, Di Stéfano, Müller, Cruyff, van Basten and the rest have done. Of course all of them hit their peaks in their mid to late 20s and adapted their play brilliantly into their 30s but few of them did so while not only maintaining but improving on a ridiculous scoring record. Eusébio's one of the few who can match that feat. It's actually something Ronaldo was on track to do along with Messi this season but that now looks unlikely - at this rate he'll do well to match 10/11's record of 40 league goals never mind last season's overall record of 60.
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