Well, to be fair, anyone who puts 'OMG' in any post automatically loses some credibility. I thought that phrase was reserved for teenage girls.I'm just gonna pretend I never read your post because honestly it's really baffling me , must be a WUM
Well, to be fair, anyone who puts 'OMG' in any post automatically loses some credibility. I thought that phrase was reserved for teenage girls.
You might disagree, but its not exactly a shocking statement is it? 'Dean Windass is a better player than Kaka' would be a shocking statement to make.
Never seen anyone fill the net as well as our Ronaldo, and he's a feckin winger. These types of predictions are always opinion-based, and that is mine.
I think he's in the same bracket. Don't forget that he scored one of the most beautiful goals in his United career with his left foot (the one against Portsmouth).
Agreed, and we have to take an entire career into account here. Fat Ronaldo essentially under-performed, as ridiculous as that is to say about a world cup winner.I don't think it's that controversial to be honest. I think Brazilian Ronaldo was slightly better at his best but the Portuguese one is an amazing footballer as well. The only reason why some people think they cannot be compared is that Brazilian Ronaldo belongs to the past, and people believe that the past is always better than present.
Agreed, and we have to take an entire career into account here. Fat Ronaldo essentially under-performed, as ridiculous as that is to say about a world cup winner.
Our Ronaldo seems destined to dominate the game for the forseeable future. Time will tell on that score though.
Fat Ronaldo was on his way to become one of the best ever footballers ,competing with the likes of Maradona/Pele and such . However good is C.Ronaldo ,it's not the same level by a long margin
Fair enough. Fat Ronaldo was a great player when fit and on form. No disputing that.I respect your opinion ,make no mistake about that. I respect every opinion, I just STRONGLY disagree with yours.
At striking the ball with power his left foot is excellent. But I've not seen enough subtlety to say he's essentially two-footed.
The key part of your post in bold. He never got there, whether by his own making or not. Our Ronaldo is well on course to be in that elite group of players.
You are drastically underestimating how good our Ronaldo is.
Agree. The thing that seperates our Ronaldo from most is his attitude to the game. He won't stop until he is as good as he can be. Sounds like a common attribute for a professional sportsman, but few ever truly reach that goal.I hope you're right (as long as it's at United though) about Ronaldo.
Do not forget the injuries Fat.Ron went through and still got back to an amazing level
Do you know what, I wouldn't be as surprised as most would if he played out the majority of his career at United. I wouldn't bet on it, but I wouldn't be that surprised either.As long as it's in our club, I hope you're right even if I somehow can't see it happening
I think he scored a great, beautifully curved goal against Everton with his left foot as well, plenty of technique. Do not remember which season was that, probably the last one.
and I think that is almost as important as having the talent in the first place. Fat Ronaldo, ultimately, didn't have that. Which is a shame, because he was obviously a hugely talented player.I agree with you on this 100% ,his desire and hunger "for more and more" is rare even among the best .
42 goals from a wide starting position. He'll probably get close to it again this season.
You can't argue with those numbers.
If there's a criticism to be made of him it is that the numbers are basically the main argument for why Ronaldo is the best.
Without the goals, he simply doesn't have that exceptional air about him that makes truly great players stand out. He'd be 'just another' of those 'one of the best today' but never the very best. He wins out by the sheer quantity of his end product moreso than the exceptional quality of his game.
But basically you're right, you can't argue with those numbers.
Fatty Ronaldo had similar/marginally better end product but he also had that je ne sais quoi to make you stand up and say 'wow, this guy could one of the best ever' from watching him play. Ronaldo's greatness is in the stats over a season moreso than actual brilliance on the pitch. That's why he won't be remembered with the same reverence.
Wow, spot onIf there's a criticism to be made of him it is that the numbers are basically the main argument for why Ronaldo is the best.
Without the goals, he simply doesn't have that exceptional air about him that makes truly great players stand out. He'd be 'just another' of those 'one of the best today' but never the very best. He wins out by the sheer quantity of his end product moreso than the exceptional quality of his game.
But basically you're right, you can't argue with those numbers.
Fatty Ronaldo had similar/marginally better end product but he also had that je ne sais quoi to make you stand up and say 'wow, this guy could one of the best ever' from watching him play. Ronaldo's greatness is in the stats over a season moreso than actual brilliance on the pitch. That's why he won't be remembered with the same reverence.
If there's a criticism to be made of him it is that the numbers are basically the main argument for why Ronaldo is the best.
Without the goals, he simply doesn't have that exceptional air about him that makes truly great players stand out. He'd be 'just another' of those 'one of the best today' but never the very best. He wins out by the sheer quantity of his end product moreso than the exceptional quality of his game.
But basically you're right, you can't argue with those numbers.
Fatty Ronaldo had similar/marginally better end product but he also had that je ne sais quoi to make you stand up and say 'wow, this guy could one of the best ever' from watching him play. Ronaldo's greatness is in the stats over a season moreso than actual brilliance on the pitch. That's why he won't be remembered with the same reverence.
I think you call someone both footed if he's able to do the same thing with both feet,dribbling,passing,shooting ,trapping,tackling .....
Ronaldo can shoot,pass but he isn't 100% both footed, Ashley Young is a good example if i'm not mistaken.
Yeah I think I agree with this, although B9's post was along the right track. The Ruud remark was bang on the money.Bollocks. Football is about scoring goals and Ronaldo can score them in every possible way. He can be efficient and spectacular at the same time. To say that he doesn't stand out is silly, he's great to watch and nothing like Ruud who would fit your description more accurately.
I would've thought Ronaldo is more two footed than Young.
Bollocks. Football is about scoring goals and Ronaldo can score them in every possible way. He can be efficient and spectacular at the same time. To say that he doesn't stand out is silly, he's great to watch and nothing like Ruud who would fit your description more accurately.
Could we actually be witnessing the greatest player ever?
Seriously, could he one day be regarded as an all time great?
My tip - YES.
Stats are always the main argument when talking about our Ronaldo. It does get tedious when people continually say '42 goals' and base that around their argument.
People don't refer to the fact that Ronaldo scored 34 goals in 37 games for Barcelona at the age of 20, they talk about how brilliant he was, how he was the standout player in big games. constantly or how he had unrivalled technical ability in his era.
But 34 in 37 is something we can witness more or less often from strikers. 42 from a winger is something that simply does not happen, that's why it was so impressive. For Brazilian Ronaldo you have to mention his class and style to make it something else, what our Ronaldo did last season in terms of delivering is already something else even if you don't mention that he did it in style.
Bollocks. Football is about scoring goals and Ronaldo can score them in every possible way. He can be efficient and spectacular at the same time. To say that he doesn't stand out is silly, he's great to watch and nothing like Ruud who would fit your description more accurately.
You don't honestly think Ronaldinho's a better player than Ronaldo?
You don't honestly think Ronaldinho's a better player than Ronaldo?
In a big game, it would be the buck-toothed one every day of the week. And there's a good argument for him being better over the course of a season at his peak as well.
wait, which Ronaldo are you talking about? He isn't fit to lace the fat one's boots. Our Ronaldo, I'd say is on par with Ronaldinho.
And as talented as Ronaldinho was he is not on the same level as our Ronaldo in terms of consistency.
For three seasons, he was consistently great.
For me the most impressive thing about Fat.Ron goals in Barcelona isn't the number of goals but more like the way he was scoring them. Some ridiculious video games (PES) goals really and also at his age
