I smell the narrative but easy guys, could you please not assume English fans = any straight fans?
LGBT issues in Football
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Ah and both the penisless guy and the one with flare in his arse should be punished severely.
Just like anyone in any public place should be if behaving like that, regardless of sexual preference.
Just like anyone in any public place should be if behaving like that, regardless of sexual preference.
The right one is disgusting but I can’t see anything inappropriate on the left with the Ken doll.
Bloody eunuchs!
Why Billy Gilmour in particular?
Because he's a Chelsea player I'd assume?
Yeah. Did they accidentally out Billy here?
Billy Gilmour is a Chelsea player. One of the hilarious nicknames witty football fans have for Chelsea players and fans is rent boys, which is a homophobic slur indicating that someone is a [typically young] male prostitute who sells himself to other [older] men.
Nah...they were singing Chelsea Rent Boy when he came on.
I agree, but this scrote does not:
Nothing homophobic about a homophobic slur, so everybody move along, nothing to see.
Reminds me of the "F Word" episode of South Park. I honestly did not know the term rent boy was linked to what it was (wasn't aware of the double meaning). It's not something we hear across the pond.
Tits, fanny and United is offensive. Rent boys. I dunno, it's a chant to slag off Chelsea not gay people.
We always sing Chelsea rent boy ?
I don’t see the problem tbh
I don’t see the problem tbh
Do people find that chant offensive or just people wanting to be offended on the behalf of others? I think it'll be sung at every ground this season.
Since when is the word 'quilt' an insult? Isn't it something you cover yourself up with when it's cold.
Because heterophobic isn't really a thing.
I would argue that it's that one word is referencing a group that has been marginalized, made fun of, and criminalized in the past and the other is referring to someone near the top of the power structure and isn't disparaging a marginalized sexual orientation.
Tbh, thinking about it more, it's offensive to gay people because it's saying being gay is an insult. I'm from a generation where "gay" was the most common school yard insult, and it doesn't seem like a big deal on the basis of that experience, but maybe it should be. I've got a my first kid due in two months, and if they decide they are gay in 20 years time, id rather there wasn't still the negative association with it.
Why do you think that is?
What's heterophobia?
Though I still think misogyny in chants is more offensive than light homophobia.
Happy to be corrected and educated on it, but isn't rent boy basically a male prostitute
So how is that homophobic? saying male whore is crass but homophobic? How so?
Edit: just googled it and rent boy is a gay male prostitute
Got it
So how is that homophobic? saying male whore is crass but homophobic? How so?
Edit: just googled it and rent boy is a gay male prostitute
Got it
You mean women?
So am I, and I don't think it really hit me until my mid 20s as just how wrong that was. I'm glad the climate seems to be changing in that regard.
Yeah edited my post after googling it
Now my search history will look suspect
Normally when a woman is referred to as a whore, she is not an actual prostitute, but if you are making a homophobic slur, you are making fun of someone for something they are, not what they do. I don't think either is right but one is worse in my opinion.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and, as a gay man, say that the nickname 'rent boys' for Chelsea is only very tangentially homophobic. It's a reference to the fact that their modern fans are glory supporters following Abramovic's money.
Doesn't make it an ok thing to shout from the stands, though. If people used the N word in reference to a rival club for some esoteric reason that had nothing to do with race, we still wouldn't be ok with them shouting the word at their players.
Doesn't make it an ok thing to shout from the stands, though. If people used the N word in reference to a rival club for some esoteric reason that had nothing to do with race, we still wouldn't be ok with them shouting the word at their players.
Stop being ridiculous, it's 2021, we can't be taking context into consideration. Everything is offensive x
Yeah, being in high school in the 80's, the "other" f-word was used all the time, especially when you did something that wasn't quite manly (dropping a ball being thrown to you etc...). It's embarrassing to think of how I behaved back then and even into the 90's.
Great response. Vert similar to the Mexican fans and their chant. They don't "mean" it as homophobic but it needed (needs) to be stopped anyway.
Neither is ok. You're only calling the woman a whore because of her gender, and you're only calling someone a homophobic slur because of their sexuality. Neither person can change that thing about themselves, and neither deserves to be insulted on that basis.
It's not homophobic. And it is an overreaction.
But it's also understandable in the current climate of correcting for historic prejudices in order to get to a more equitable society.
Chelsea are called 'rent boys' for selling themselves out to Roman Abramovic. And Gilmour is a part of Chelsea so one follows from the other. If Chelsea were called 'male prostitutes' instead, maybe that would be considered less homophobic. Or possibly just 'prostitutes' to remove the gendered part of it.
Either way, I wouldn't say that 'rent boy' is a homophobic slur with a history of use as such. But this isn't an issue worth being on the other side of, so it's fair enough that it should be retired in order to err on the side of caution.
As long as opposition fans can keep abusing Chelsea in some other way. That's the most important thing.
But it's also understandable in the current climate of correcting for historic prejudices in order to get to a more equitable society.
Chelsea are called 'rent boys' for selling themselves out to Roman Abramovic. And Gilmour is a part of Chelsea so one follows from the other. If Chelsea were called 'male prostitutes' instead, maybe that would be considered less homophobic. Or possibly just 'prostitutes' to remove the gendered part of it.
Either way, I wouldn't say that 'rent boy' is a homophobic slur with a history of use as such. But this isn't an issue worth being on the other side of, so it's fair enough that it should be retired in order to err on the side of caution.
As long as opposition fans can keep abusing Chelsea in some other way. That's the most important thing.
Just like Chelsea rent boy are not actual male prostitutes.
Ehhh...