That Ian Ayre is such a slimeball.
Lets laugh at Liverpool
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Second weird bump of the night then.
He was on SSN and just always looks like such a slimy greasy fecker.
What the word Nev uses....Sleachy??
What the word Nev uses....Sleachy??
Aye, he's a sleachy cnut.
He reminds me of that scouse cnut that was on xfactor. Same poxy sunbed tan and annoying voice.
Nah, scousist.
It's OK.
It's OK.
*The laugh of audience, you hear in every sitcom after hearing latest Liverpool updates*
Yes I think cnuts are a whole new race now
So what do we think on their season?
I think they did better than expected. Showed some good football at times but their style also showed how poor their players are.
Jonjo shelvey
Jonjo shelvey
Suarez, Sturrige and Coutinho will be a right handfull next season. If they add some strength and depth, they might actually have a very good season.
IMO, they are a good CB, midfielder and winger away from being a very strong team, provided those they bring in are of real quality and not KKKesque signings.
IMO, they are a good CB, midfielder and winger away from being a very strong team, provided those they bring in are of real quality and not KKKesque signings.
They mixed extreme mediocrity with some very good play, and I am concerned, should they hold onto Suarez and Coutinho that they could become a top 4 force again next season with the right signings. They actually finished 4th highest scorers, only 4 below Chelsea and 5 ahead of City, and their defence conceded the same as Uniteds in the end!
So to some extent their table place belies the stats, but it was the fact they pummeled some teams and then drew consecutive 0-0's that really shot them back.
So to some extent their table place belies the stats, but it was the fact they pummeled some teams and then drew consecutive 0-0's that really shot them back.
Don't see them getting top four, who out of Spurs, United, Chelsea, Arsenal, City are they going to replace?
Spurs and Arsenal.
No way. With a good season they might finish ahead one of them if they have a poor one (Spurs most likely) but they won't overtake both.
Respect to your analysis, you are definitely paying attention. And I will be paying attention to your future posts on football in general.
FYI, we are looking at 2 to 3 CBs (Papadopolous is being touted as one), a midfield enforcer (Strootman territory but probably won't be able to get him without CL football) and a winger (Tello has been mentioned). Again early days but the names being mentioned are certainly non-KK-esque - thankfully!
With some good signings this is a real possibility. They need to heavily invest in defense and probably get a midfielder and a winger (attacking midfielder). Like Dumbstar said, if they get Papadoupulos, Toure (cause squad need depth) a decent midfielder and Tello they can be there. Probably a left defender if they have the money. If they can invest about 50-60m and get lucky (good) in their signings they will be there.
If they can hold on to Suarez they've a real chance to build this summer. Rodgers at times has gotten them playing some good stuff, if they can improve some aspects of their first XI (a winger and CB for starters) then they'll have both a starting lineup to compete with the big teams, and the squad depth necessary for a run at the top 4. It all rests on them keeping Suarez though, if he leaves they'll have a tough job replacing that star power.
Next year could be very interesting as the top 3 all come under new management. We'll probably see three or four teams competing for the title, and another 3 or 4 right behind competing for the CL places. Liverpool could certainly join the latter fight next season if they invest wisely this summer.
Next year could be very interesting as the top 3 all come under new management. We'll probably see three or four teams competing for the title, and another 3 or 4 right behind competing for the CL places. Liverpool could certainly join the latter fight next season if they invest wisely this summer.
If Liverpool don't come close to competing for 4th next season, truly will have become a joke of a club.
Everton I think will struggle (probably lose Fellaini and maybe Baines on top of already losing Moyes)
Spurs will lose Bale and will not come close to signing 2-3 players they'll need to just replace him not to mention they need 2-3 players in addition to Bale to really have a good shout on future success.
Arsenal - well Wenger will not invest the way he should to ensure they are head and shoulders above 5th and below, let alone to compete for a title.
Everton I think will struggle (probably lose Fellaini and maybe Baines on top of already losing Moyes)
Spurs will lose Bale and will not come close to signing 2-3 players they'll need to just replace him not to mention they need 2-3 players in addition to Bale to really have a good shout on future success.
Arsenal - well Wenger will not invest the way he should to ensure they are head and shoulders above 5th and below, let alone to compete for a title.
Hopefully Suarez leaves them. With him, Countinho and Gerrard Liverpool have got a good attack. As long as they don't strengthen defensively though.. 
it's as though the whole world stopped just to be thankful you're reading his gobshite. Classic. Love you Rob ;DI think they are close, they just need 5 new signings a couple of really good players and if they can keep Suarez they can finish top four.
Just think about the term 'nearly there' and read how many new players they supposedly need. Eclipsing all of that is the big problem of Gerrard being nowhere near as influential and commanding and with him being the captain and talisman if he fades into obscurity the identity of the club takes a huge blow. This season was not good enough by any stretch of the imagination and they are standing on pretty rocky ground if they stand to lose Suarez and possibly Gerrard in the next few seasons they will have to be careful.
(Even if Suarez stays he'll miss half a season and 3/4 of the chances he's offered and still jammy 20 goals anyway).
It's a massive transfer window and vital we make the right signings, especially given the likes of Chelsea and City will probably be spending big.
That said I suppose it's Arsenal and Tottenham we should be looking to compete with.
A top class centre half is essential. Would also like to see a new left back.
Hard to say on some of the other positions may depend on how much faith Brendan has in the likes of Suso and Sterling.
We have to look at challenging for top four spot.
That said I suppose it's Arsenal and Tottenham we should be looking to compete with.
A top class centre half is essential. Would also like to see a new left back.
Hard to say on some of the other positions may depend on how much faith Brendan has in the likes of Suso and Sterling.
We have to look at challenging for top four spot.
Doubt if you'd get him. Barcelona obviously rate him very highly, and with the opportunities he's had this year, over 30 games and their 4th highest league scorer, i can't see why he'd go from Barcelona to Liverpool.
At the expense of Gerrard?
To be honest and I'll take flak for it. I think he's finished at that level. He's got to get somebody more adventurous than Lucas to pick up the flak and actually get a couple of CB's who don't need to be bailed out by a cuetip limited ball winning (fouling) midfielder.
Which is why he bought Allen but that proved to be a mediocre signing at a big chunk of budget.. Not great, not terrible.
Have they really done better than last year? They won a cup and made the FA cup finals last year.
Raising their game against quality opposition and then underwhelm against the sides they should supposedly beat. Hasn't this been the trend in the last few years?
I would wait another half a season before I start fearing Daniel Sturridge. I am not convinced about his ability to deliver consistently and under pressure. Coutinho looks a good player but the second season is much harder when teams have had a look at you.
Rodgers transfer activity has been a hit and miss too.Joe Allen and Sahin have been failures. Borini is a bit meh.
It would be a challenge to keep Suarez at the club next season. My guess is that he would be looking to move on for champions league football. It would be hard for Liverpool to replace a player of his quality even with €35-€40m that his sale will bring. Without the lure of European football, don't think many top players will be interested in Liverpool. Especially when they can join the barrage of new mega-rich clubs in France and Russia.
With Moyes gone they will probably move up a spot and finish 6th next season.
Raising their game against quality opposition and then underwhelm against the sides they should supposedly beat. Hasn't this been the trend in the last few years?
I would wait another half a season before I start fearing Daniel Sturridge. I am not convinced about his ability to deliver consistently and under pressure. Coutinho looks a good player but the second season is much harder when teams have had a look at you.
Rodgers transfer activity has been a hit and miss too.Joe Allen and Sahin have been failures. Borini is a bit meh.
It would be a challenge to keep Suarez at the club next season. My guess is that he would be looking to move on for champions league football. It would be hard for Liverpool to replace a player of his quality even with €35-€40m that his sale will bring. Without the lure of European football, don't think many top players will be interested in Liverpool. Especially when they can join the barrage of new mega-rich clubs in France and Russia.
With Moyes gone they will probably move up a spot and finish 6th next season.
Their football has looked better, their results in the league are a little better, and some of their players are exciting. The cup runs from last year weren't really an indicator of much I don't think. They've definitely improved, but it's going to take a few years of similar improvement to reach the top.
Yes we have done better, though not significantly so. The cup runs hid many issues, and let's not forget many on here were saying the cup 'success' was Mickey Mouse also. We have also seen several good young players coming through.
Moving from 8th to challenging for the league will take years - I think we have made progress but it's going to take a while and we can't afford any mistakes in the transfer market.
You'd need to be extremely lucky in the transfer market to challenge for a 4th spot in the next couple of years. Transfers are a hit & miss, as I highlighted my earlier post, and it would be very difficult to buy near sure things in the situation you are in right now.
I don't know about many young players at Liverpool. From the ones I have seen in the first team, Kelly is the only one who I thought is the brightest. Will be interesting to see next season if Sterling has progressed. Jonjo is a raging donkey. Don't know about the rest.
It will take years of prodding, luck and hope that a couple of the rivals fall off to be anywhere close to challenging for a tittle. Or you can win the oil lottery, which is not that far fetched.
Suso, Wisdom, Sterling were the one's I really meant. There are others too, not that they are title winning material.
I don't agree we need to be lucky to challenge for 4th, I think that's a realistic target, but not one that will be easy to achieve next season.
You never know with rivals falling away, it's hard to predict how Moyes for instance will do at United. Not that we are close to challenging you at the moment, we aren't.
You don't really. You just have to identify what you need and buy it. Of course it's shit loads harder without Champions League football to get those 'star' next step players but these days there are hundreds of fringe players who know they can battle to step up and produce the goods for a 'hard working club' like Liverpool.
This whole 'you need to spend shit loads of money to get anywhere' is bullshit. You just need to know what and who to buy.. Jury is still out on the scouting at Liverpool in the last 10ish years it's been pretty horrendous. Even when they had CL football. Some of the youngsters coming through may be impressive though time will tell on that. I still have shit loads more respect for the fact that they are playing their youth and trying to push from within rather than just trying to buy talent.
In my opinion, Liverpool already have a very good squad. On their day, they can beat anyone. Their biggest problem is that they just kept getting the wrong manager at the wrong time.
Gerrard is hit and miss now
Key is holding onto Suarez
They will do well to keep him this summer
Key is holding onto Suarez
They will do well to keep him this summer
I don't see them overtaking Arsenal any time soon. Spurs maybe, but not Spurs and Arsenal. People say 'they just need to buy a good CB, probably a winger or two etc etc'. Yes, then they might be at Arsenal's level now, but Arsenal aren't going to stand still. Nor, I imagine, are Spurs. Plus if they buy three or four players then they'll probably have to go through the 'gelling' season, like Arsenal have this year.
The gunners may not have the superstars like Fabregas and RVP any more, but the consistency of quality across their squad is good, especially with that core of young British talent fleshing out the typical Wenger imports. Liverpool don't have that at all. They have a few good talents - Suarez obviously, Coutinho, Sturridge, Agger, Gerrard (though how long he'll be in this bracket is debatable). But beyond these few, they're largely shit. Henderson, Shelvey, Allen, Coates, Downing, Borini... that is not the bench of a top four club.
The gunners may not have the superstars like Fabregas and RVP any more, but the consistency of quality across their squad is good, especially with that core of young British talent fleshing out the typical Wenger imports. Liverpool don't have that at all. They have a few good talents - Suarez obviously, Coutinho, Sturridge, Agger, Gerrard (though how long he'll be in this bracket is debatable). But beyond these few, they're largely shit. Henderson, Shelvey, Allen, Coates, Downing, Borini... that is not the bench of a top four club.
I'd certainly accept that Liverpool have improved over the course of the season - for all the crap Rodgers speaks, he has made good changes with them and generally improved them compared to the crap that Dalglish oversaw. The challenge is to continue with that progression, particularly if they find themselves challenging for something worthwhile like the top four (which they never were in contention for this season). If they can handle the pressure of such a challenge, then they might make even more substantial progress next season.
The signings they have made under Rodgers have been effective (though more time is needed to entirely judge them of course) and it seems the days of overpaying for crap British players might be at an end, which can only be good for them (and less amusing for us). Suarez leaving could be a benefit given the money they'd get for him, but on the otherhand they're unlikely to attract any similar quality players as things stand.
In terms of actually getting into the top four, then I still think it's too big of a challenge. They have the advantage of not being in the Europa league, but I think that might be more likely to result in them getting good runs in the cups. Of the four Champions League spots then obviously Chelsea and City are guaranteed to finish there as long as their owner's keep spunking money on them. So their best hope is to replace either us or Arsenal - not going to happen with Wenger still at the Emirates, so they'd need us to collapse under Moyes to open up a spot.
I wouldn't rule out one of the two cups next season if Chelsea or City don't take them seriously enough.
The signings they have made under Rodgers have been effective (though more time is needed to entirely judge them of course) and it seems the days of overpaying for crap British players might be at an end, which can only be good for them (and less amusing for us). Suarez leaving could be a benefit given the money they'd get for him, but on the otherhand they're unlikely to attract any similar quality players as things stand.
In terms of actually getting into the top four, then I still think it's too big of a challenge. They have the advantage of not being in the Europa league, but I think that might be more likely to result in them getting good runs in the cups. Of the four Champions League spots then obviously Chelsea and City are guaranteed to finish there as long as their owner's keep spunking money on them. So their best hope is to replace either us or Arsenal - not going to happen with Wenger still at the Emirates, so they'd need us to collapse under Moyes to open up a spot.
I wouldn't rule out one of the two cups next season if Chelsea or City don't take them seriously enough.
Toure is an awful defender these days and would weaken their squad. Papadopoulos I don't really know much about, he's supposed to be decent but will he be an improvement over Skrtel from a couple of years ago? I'm not sure. Tello is far better than any winger they have but I reckon he's still a bit way from being a top player.
He'd be their 4th choice centre back. They currently dont have one after Carragher retired. Not sure how that can be considered as weaking their squad.