Let's all laugh at England

[Luke1995]

I can relate to you, english people. Had to watch Argentina win the title here yesterday.

I think you can still be positive in regards to the 2022 World Cup. The players will have one more season of experience (given their youth) and by that point, the improvement may be massive.

Of course other countries will improve aswell, but this is still England's best generation in quite a couple of years.

 

[Charlie Foley]

I wonder what he thinks about the non-English players who play / have played for United.

Or the managers. Especially the Scottish ones.

He does not think, you’re giving him too much credit

 

[Carolina Red]

Yea and I laughed at Wales too. I’m not sure what your point is?

oh wow

 

[Hectic]

I can relate to you, english people. Had to watch Argentina win the title here yesterday.

I think you can still be positive in regards to the 2022 World Cup. The players will have one more season of experience (given their youth) and by that point, the improvement may be massive.

Of course other countries will improve aswell, but this is still England's best generation in quite a couple of years.

That's fair and quite considerate really. The only problem is I can relate to Argentina so I'm actually laughing at you.

England Brazil

 

[Charlie Foley]

A fan (who supports their local team) finding it odd that other fans support a foreign (and conveniently successful) team while simultaneously hating the country that the aforementioned team plays in.

I find it a weird mentality.

Most of the people who support England hate United. I just reverse that. It lines up pretty well

 

[VidaRed]

The fact that you think your club is in a "drought" this past decade says it all, ffs.

If these people you accuse to be glory hunters were actually glory hunters then they'd have jumped ship by now to city,psg,madrid.

Your not even a utd fan, your just here to grind your shit.

 

[Carolina Red]

How dare we indeed. It's not as if the clubs have been courting us or anything either, is it?

Crazy innit? It isn’t like United is a global club or anything.

 

[fergies coat]

I read 'the England fans who are' as in those who are like that rather than all are like that. They also mentioned subsets of fans earlier which gives credence to that interpretation but I can see the ambiguity.

He's says English fans are very commonly racist.
I'm sorry that's bullshit, and is a sweeping generalisation.

 

[lefty_jakobz]

Well, seems like the English fans can only dish it out. Act like babies when they get

Yea and I laughed at Wales too. I’m not sure what your point is?
There’s obviously a significant difference between that and the tirade of threads and arguments that have ensued since England got through to the semies.

We (other home nations) revel in your misery as you did in ours.
Only thing is it seems like the English can only give it out and not take it.

Your salty tears taste sweet.

Cry more.

Your team isn’t bringing anything home but sore arses.

Its 55 years and counting.

 

[Ludens the Red]

You’re right, all the unfunny England fans made too many threads. They can cry about it now for all I care

Thanks for proving my point.

Well, seems like the English fans can only dish it out. Act like babies when they get


We (other home nations) revel in your misery as you did in ours.
Only thing is it seems like the English can only give it out and not take it.

Your salty tears taste sweet.

Cry more.

Your team isn’t bringing anything home but sore arses.

Its 55 years and counting.

Are you 12?

 

[Hawks2008]

Cam on Ingurland, score sum fackin goals!

 

[entropy]

Hold on a minute...were you not in the Scotland thread when they got beat laughing at them???

obviously that doesn’t count. duhhh.

 

[VidaRed]

Solid point, well made. How dare we!

Clearly your a glory hunting plastic fan. Why are you still here ?

Quick, be gone to city or psg.

 

[Bondi77]

So if United had 0 English players… then who would you support?

I would still support them as I love the club but I am not going to do cartwheels if any country gets beaten in a final.
If someone does not like a particular country then why support a club that comes from that country???
We are talking about the World game here and people are spoilt for choice to find a club that is in a country that they like or even not dislike to support.

 

[lefty_jakobz]

If these people you accuse to be glory hunters were actually glory hunters then they'd have jumped ship by now to city,psg,madrid.

Your not even a utd fan, your just here to grind your shit.

His team is only succesful because foreign owners came in with loads of money and bought a team of (largely foreign players) to win the league with a foreign manager...do you think he sees the irony about supporting a local team full of foreign influence???

 

[Carolina Red]

I would still support them as I love the club

Kinda makes you wonder why…

(see how that works?)

If someone does not like a particular country then why support a club that comes from that country???

What about Scots who support United because of Busby, Fergie, Fletcher, etc?

Or Irish who do because of the likes of Irwin and Keane?

Or French who do because of Cantona and Evra?

Your argument makes 0 sense

 

[Withnail]

And neither is the England football team. What's your point?

Maybe re-read the conversation.

He's says English fans are very commonly racist.
I'm sorry that's bullshit, and is a sweeping generalisation.

This reads to me like it's identifying a subset who exhibit a particular behaviour.

the English supporters who are...

 

[OL29]

But then go and support Manchester United. Weird that isn't it?

I don’t know why you’re so sensitive to the fact that not all United fans want England to succeed, I’m United fan, born and raised in Manchester yet despite wanting our players to do well, i couldn’t stand the sight of England winning the tournament. And that’s coming from someone who’s travelled abroad to watch England at international tournaments. Me personally, I stopped supporting England when they dropped Rio from the squad to recall John Terry who had been found guilty of racially abusing Anton Ferdinand. Like it or not, there’s plenty to dislike about the National team and it’s fans so it should hardly be surprising that many take joy in seeing them fail.

 

[big rons sovereign]

I'm not sure why I have to say this but Man United isn't the British Empire.

The Brits aren't the only bastards in relatively recent history, Portugal and Spain had a real good go at the Americas, the French and Germans aren't exactly saints. Belgium are right up there too.
Honourable mention for the ottomans and Russia.

 

[lefty_jakobz]

Thanks for proving my point.



Are you 12?

Hahaha its our time to dish it out and your time to take it

 

[OL29]

I would still support them as I love the club but I am not going to do cartwheels if any country gets beaten in a final.
If someone does not like a particular country then why support a club that comes from that country???
We are talking about the World game here and people are spoilt for choice to find a club that is in a country that they like or even not dislike to support.

Not liking the national team doesn’t equate to not liking the country. As someone who’s English myself, it’s pretty easy to separate the 2.

 

[Lay]

Imagine still supporting England when the fans were burning effigies of David Beckham and allowing racist players to play over United ones.

 

[Carolina Red]

Not liking the national team doesn’t equate to not liking the country. As someone who’s English myself, it’s pretty easy to separate the 2.

Indeed. I’m American and can’t tell you the last time I watched the USMNT play.

 

[RedDevilRoshi]

Imagine still supporting England when the fans were burning effigies of David Beckham and allowing racist players to play over United ones.

And racially abusing them online right now

 

[Irwin99]

I thought all fans understood that United was bigger than anything. Look at these gems/sayings/chants over the years;

66 was a great year for English football...Cantona was born
Classic 'ARGENTINA ARGENTINA ARGENTINA' chant, my personal fave
"He winks on the left, he winks on the right, that boy Ronaldo makes England look shite"
Stuff the rest, we love you Becks

etc etc.

Chill out.

 

[VidaRed]

I don’t know why you’re so sensitive to the fact that not all United fans want England to succeed, I’m United fan, born and raised in Manchester yet despite wanting our players to do well, i couldn’t stand the sight of England winning the tournament. And that’s coming from someone who’s travelled abroad to watch England at international tournaments. Me personally, I stopped supporting England when they dropped Rio from the squad to recall John Terry who had been found guilty of racially abusing Anton Ferdinand. Like it or not, there’s plenty to dislike about the National team and it’s fans so it should hardly be surprising that many take joy in seeing them fail.

If you dont support england then you cannot be a fan of any english club. I reckon you should try supporting madrid, barca or psg. But don't forget to support the national team also.

 

[big rons sovereign]

Hahaha its our time to dish it out and your time to take it

It's been getting dished out for weeks, more so this last week.

 

[VidaRed]

I thought all fans understood that United was bigger than anything. Look at these gems/sayings/chants over the years;

66 was a great year for English football...Cantona was born
Classic 'ARGENTINA ARGENTINA ARGENTINA' chant, my personal fave
"He winks on the left, he winks on the right, that boy Ronaldo makes England look shite"
Stuff the rest, we love you Becks

etc etc.

Chill out.

All these chants were made up foreigners, yep those bloody glory hunting foreigners at it again.

 

[Withnail]

The Brits aren't the only bastards in relatively recent history, Portugal and Spain had a real good go at the Americas, the French and Germans aren't exactly saints. Belgium are right up there too.
Honourable mention for the ottomans and Russia.

So instead of taking onboard what I've said you give me some whataboutery about some other countries that did some things elsewhere because of course you did.

 

[OL29]

If you dont support england then you cannot be a fan of any english club. I reckon you should try supporting madrid, barca or psg. But don't forget to support the national team also.

Shit, you’re right. I think I’ll pick PSG and France, they have nice kits.

 

[big rons sovereign]

And racially abusing them online right now

What worries me is it tends to be young uns handing out the abuse.
Faceless social media seems to have brought about a new wave of nasty little feckers.

 

[lefty_jakobz]

It's been getting dished out for weeks, more so this last week.

Yeah from both sides.
Why cant the English take the banter? Some of the comments from English fans on this thread regarding foreign fans is borderline/undertone racist.

 

[Zaphod2319]

Shit, you’re right. I think I’ll pick PSG and France, they have nice kits.

Madrid has really hot women. Dont jump without considering all options.

 

[OL29]

Madrid has really hot women. Dont jump without considering all options.

Good point well made, but then I’d have to support Spain and I’m not so sure I’m comfortable doing that. Decisions!

 

[Carolina Red]

Madrid has really hot women. Dont jump without considering all options.

Have you seen the women in Paris though?

 

[Ludens the Red]

Hahaha its our time to dish it out and your time to take it

Mate that’s all good. I have no issues with England/Scotland/Ireland/Wales banter but if you can’t see the hilarity of the bitterness on here over England making one measly final. I mean you’ve had people posting essays on England’s colonisation hundreds of years ago, brexit etc. People blabbering on about incidents from 1998, getting into an almighty strop over booing of anthems. Thread after thread full of bickering.
If this was a club side someone would have reigned it in and gone “lads, you’re all getting a bit weird now”…

And racially abusing them online right now

Look at this guy. Presumably he was asleep when Tuanzebe and co were being racially abused online by “United fans”

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Ban every cnut in this thread...

No reason to do do, as this isn't an England NT forum

 

[Bondi77]

Kinda makes you wonder why…

(see how that works?)

What about Scots who support United because of Busby, Fergie, Fletcher, etc?

Or Irish who do because of the likes of Irwin and Keane?

Or French who do because of Cantona and Evra?

Your argument makes 0 sense

So the French don't anymore then???
I would imaginge the French would lean more towards Arsenal than us anyway.
As I have said...I have no problem with foreigners supporting Utd but we are an English club which has always had a strong core of English players so I wonder why people seem to take delight when England don't do well.
Would you make fun of Rashford and Sancho at a Utd game for missing a penalty for England?

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Why do you lot support an English football club? feck off and support a Spanish club.

 

[chiz2kul]

Someone said England are the spurs in a different kit
On a serious note though - the future looks pretty damn bright for the team. A better manager, more experienced youngsters, the future definitely looks promising.