Let’s sign Gareth Bale
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I think he said he'd been fit and not getting into the side. It's madness I know what side doesn't he get into but I'm going on what he's insinuated. You never know but he's world class and didn't look to much on the wane to me last Saturday
So bale isn't a top winger?
What wingers are there that are going to Be world class for next 5-6 years it's all guesswork and conjecture
What's indisputable is bales quality.... he just scored a 35yarder and a bicycle kick in a CL final to make it a hatrick of CL final goals. He's the fastest strongest winger on the planet with arguably he best "big game" mentality I've seen.
I could accept people saying they don't want him he turned us done he had his chance I can understand that.
But the injury thing and people bemoaning the spending I have an issue with. What do u want????to be arsenal ???
yli don't need to feel sorry for him I'm quite sure he's happy in his life
Im referring to his career.
No we want the club to be Manchester United ie a team that doesn't care about names and that develop talent rather then buying crocked ones at the wrong end of their careers and for ridiculous salary/fees
Are you his agent btw?
You're living in a fantasy world then. You can't expect success and developing talent in this day and age. It's simply not possible anymore. Sure there's spots for 1-2 young players in the first team picture but managers simply aren't given the time anymore (among the big clubs) to promote and develop a bunch of youth at once. And Manchester United doesn't care about names? We've been buying the biggest and best players for decades outside of a once-in-a-generation-lucky academy class. It's an exception, not the rule.
It's nothing to do with names
His name could be Barry bifocals it doesn't mean he's not world class
he's 28 not at the end of his career. How long didn't the last quality welsh winger go on for.
Yes I am his agent
We've always wanted names, we just couldn't get them.
Pogba, Lukaku, Di Maria, Ferdinand, Mata, Veron, Berbatov, Van Persie says hello. All expensive, all names. Only Van Persie had a similar injury record, but they are/were all names nevertheless.
Every year we have a 'saga'
Sometimes we'll be linked to someone early but it gets nipped in the bud quickly and then we get a new saga which lasts to the end.
I'm thinking the Bale saga might just be the big one though and last to August. I think in pre season, Mourinho will admit interest and it'll escalate the muppetry
Sometimes we'll be linked to someone early but it gets nipped in the bud quickly and then we get a new saga which lasts to the end.
I'm thinking the Bale saga might just be the big one though and last to August. I think in pre season, Mourinho will admit interest and it'll escalate the muppetry
Pogba, Lukaku, Ferdinand and Veron were all young when we signed them. ADM, Mata and Berbatov were a mistake which we should have learnt from and Van Persie was a parting gift to SAF so he can finish his career with as an EPL champion. None of them were injury prone at the level of Bale or commanded the ridiculous fees/salary Bale would common.
We never signed old injury prone players on ridiculous salary/fees under SAF. That's not the United way. We did signed injury prone players though, not on ridiculous salary/fees though and most of the time we ended up with our fingers burnt (Owen, Hargreaves, the Da Silva twins, Saha)
You might throw up other random names like Kidd, Robson, Whiteside, David May or Boris Johnson while at it.
I disagree. There were a period (ie 1 season before the treble right till the value strategy kicked in) when we signed top players. Stam was the most expensive defender in the world a transfer record broken again by Rio, Veron was a the second most rated playmaker in the world after Zidane, RVN was one of the top three most rated young strikers in Europe (alongside Sheva and Henry). However while I do acknowledge that we sometimes took things too far I agreed with United spending the dosh on under 26s who had no horrific injury record
Also note that we're excellent in developing players at the cusp of greatness (Stam, Rio, RVN, Ronaldo, Rooney, DDG etc). Most of the established big names we signed failed miserably (Veron, ADM, Mata, Berbatov etc)
We went for Shearer, Kluivert, Batistuta, Blanc, Ronaldinho etc, even Vieira was close to leaving Arsenal for us. We just couldn't sign them.
I even think we made a play for Gerrard as well? Oliver Khan..
Then no deal and keep De Gea!
Shearer, batigol, ronaldinho, viera and kluivert were all relatively young players with more then 7 good years of football left in them. Blanc was on a free .
I Don't know about the latter two
But you said nothing about their age. You said we never cared about names when we clearly did. We just couldn't sign them since big names rarely came to England during that time.
Sir Alex even signed RVP, Blanc and Young anyway. All with less than several years left in them.
I said injury prone players at the wrong side of their careers who would command ridiculous fees and salaries
Blanc and Young do not really qualify to that. RVP might but he was a parting gift to SAF that allowed him to end his career on a high
You were privy to this discussion at board level I assume?
"Parting gift". He was a necessary signing if we wanted to win the league.
What I'm saying is it's all conjecture really and guesswork
Will he be fit
Will he flop
What we know is bale is the real deal anyone who says otherwise is blind
We should take him given the chance
I thought that the general Café consensus was that we didn't want Bale as he suffered too many injuries......
Have we changed our stance since the weekend..?
Have we changed our stance since the weekend..?
I thought that the general Café consensus was that we didn't want Bale as he suffered too many injuries......
Have we changed our stance since the weekend..?
Yes.
I thought that the general Café consensus was that we didn't want Bale as he suffered too many injuries......
Have we changed our stance since the weekend..?
Yes, we all have blinkers on now after he scored an OVERHEAD KICK IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL V LIVERPOOL
I still don't want him. One good game (yes, a final) doesn't change the fact that he is a player in decline, injury prone, massively overpayed and has had two disappointing years. If it was for a reasonable fee (like 60m and Sanchez wages) then maybe yes, but he will cost north of a hundred million and get 30m+ for year in salary. With his age and injury problems, it is not worthy.
Ah yes nothing significant happened on the weekend. I guess i must have been hearing things, I swear Gareth Bale said he wasnt happy with being a bench player and he would discuss things with his agent.
The best option with Bale would be a loan, where we pay a certain amount of his wages and Madrid pick up the outstanding amount. Similar to what we did when we paid Nani's wages at Sporting, except in this case we would pick up 80% and Madrid 20.
It went against United's strategy throughout SAF's reign but its ok as its worth letting SAF retire on high
It went against the value strategy and against any strategy SAF used previously so 1+1 and all that
Nice idea but I doubt RM would go for it. Bales stock is high right now so they’ll want to cash in. Best thing would be to agree as low a fee as possible, give him a basic wage which can be topped up with bonus payments based on appearances, goals, trophies etc. united will make a big chunk back anyway on shirt sales, merchandise and perhaps even ticket sales
It seems the final has got everyone wanting him now. If Bale was a fit player who could be relied upon to play an entire season, I'd go for him absolutely. But he just isn't. He's not worth the risk at the price they'd be wanting.
I still don't understand how he can be considered to be in decline. He's had a very good season when he's been playing. The best in a while, actually. And he hasn't had only one good game. He's had many.
The rest are legit arguments, I just wonder why people say he's in decline.
By the way, people seem to forget what he's done while in Madrid. First of all, he's one of the best there is in big games. He won the Copa del Rey on his own against Barca in 14. He scored the game winner in the 14 CL final. He had an assist for Reals only goal in the 16 final. He played in the 17 final, which Real won. He scored two goals, one a magnificent beauty, in the 18 CL final.
He has 88 goals and 59 assists in 189 apps for Real Madrid. That's a goal every 160 minutes. An assist every 238 minutes. A point every 95 minutes. Ergo, he's been a point-per-game player.
While at Madrid, he's also lead Wales to their first major tournament since 1958, and reached the semi final in the Euros of 2016, beating Belgium 3-1 on the way!
You can argue that "this is history, you can't look at the player he's been, you need to look at the player he is", but 17/18 has been a very good season for him, considering his minutes. This season he has a point every 81 minutes.
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I don't like this idea of paying over the top fees for players past their primes, who'll eventually have only a couple of years with us. Not to mention that there's no guarantee he'll be an instant success.
Bale scored an impressive 21 goals in 39 games this season. That's really good considering some appearances have been from the bench or after coming back from injury.
If we can get around 40 games a season for Bale I would take that, he has PL experience, knows the country so wouldn't need time to settle in, can play in several different positions and is currently at his peak and performs in big games, the performance on the weekend wasn't the first time he delivered on the big occasion!
Doesn't turn 29 till July, which is the same age we signed RvP at! We can still get a good 4 years out of him if managed well.
If we can get around 40 games a season for Bale I would take that, he has PL experience, knows the country so wouldn't need time to settle in, can play in several different positions and is currently at his peak and performs in big games, the performance on the weekend wasn't the first time he delivered on the big occasion!
Doesn't turn 29 till July, which is the same age we signed RvP at! We can still get a good 4 years out of him if managed well.
He's excellent but when Madrid bought him I thought it was risky given his injuries back then, so I would have had these doubts even 5 years ago. If he spends a lot of time injured in Spain there's a good chance he'll spend even more time injured here as it's a much tougher league.
Ahhhh, my favourite myth
Man Utd has always gone for the most promising young players out there and sometimes we paid over the odds to secure their services. We signed players who were on the cusp of greatness, not those who had already achieved it. So as far as signing established big name players is concerned, they were very much the exception rather than the rule. Also, as far as the academy class is concerned, they were top class, but none of them could be considered the biggest names at the time.
But I do agree in the sense that we've always challenged for the biggest players. Just that, more often than not, they chose the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona and the other continental giants over us
.Unfortunately we currently have a manager with the complete opposite mentality to the utd of old in promoting youth and playing fast attacking football.
Name a talent Jose has developed?
He isn't like klopp or Poch or Pep, Jose wants ready made players to fit into his way of working
If you want us to develop youth, then you better pray Jose leaves us cos it aint happening otherwise.
I'd hardly call Bale a crook. Bale is world class - end of. Bale would instantly improve any team in this league - even man city.
Would you rather we sign Bale or continue to play Lingard or Mata on the RW? Cos that's been world class hasn't it. And regarding the potential fee - yes Bale will cost a lot of money. He is also worth it.
When did we become so good that we spurned the chance to sign one of the top 5 players in world football? Have I missed something?
I would hate to be the one that tells Martial to give up his number 11 shirt.
I just found a player that meet almost all the criteria list here
- age 26
- Cheap transfer fee £12m
- Low Salary - Currently on £65,000/w
- Physically strong
- Injury free
- EPL proven experience
- Current International Player
- Versatile. Can play as RW, LW
- Won't stop the development of Rasford and Martial
- Proven in the world cup for his country
I present: Xherdan Shaqiri
- age 26
- Cheap transfer fee £12m
- Low Salary - Currently on £65,000/w
- Physically strong
- Injury free
- EPL proven experience
- Current International Player
- Versatile. Can play as RW, LW
- Won't stop the development of Rasford and Martial
- Proven in the world cup for his country
I present: Xherdan Shaqiri