Let’s sign Gareth Bale

Wilt said:
Are Utd that desperate to even consider Bale given his age, injury record and expected wages? Its obvious Real are desperate to get him off their wage bill, so let's not do them a massive favour and let some other club be the mugs.
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Are we really desperate? or is Bale just a class player that can change a game within 20 minutes of being on the pitch?

We don't have anybody of that quality on the right side of the pitch. He's got everything you need in a top player, the only doubt is his injury record.

Right now I don't see many younger up and coming RW options that are a "must buy" if Mahrez will cost 75m then I think we can get Bale for around 120m which isn't awful.
 
devilish said:
If we get Bale we're getting an injury prone player at the wrong side of his 20s and on ridiculous fees and salaries. We have a horrible track record with crocks so if he signs with us then things will probably only get worse

With Sanchez on the left and Bale on the right, we'll be pissing off our young players who would be looking elsewhere were to go. Meanwhile we'll also be freeing Real Madrid from a dead weight, whose earning way more then he should. That salary budget will be used to actually bring a top player which means the gap between them and the rest will grow bigger.

From the merchandising point of view, I am sure that the club will do its best to milk it. However lets get real on this. Bale is a bit like Real's answer to Rooney. He's a star on the wane and his injuries will only get worse. Why would sponsors fret on some Real's utility player when they can focus on Ronaldo and possibly Real's new toy Neymar? Its would be like being proud of our second hand Delorean while our rich neighbour is running around with the new Ferrari LaFerrari Aperta.
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Wow. Just wow. The bolded parts. Come on, man :lol:

First of all, he's 28, turning 29. He's not old just yet. He should be in his prime right now, and will be for another few years. I really don't think he's shown any signs of a decline. I actually think this season he's redeemed himself a bit. As long as he can stay fit, he'll be spectacular yet again.

Which young player of ours deserves/ are able to play on the right? And which young players of ours are world beaters and ready to take us to the next level? We desperately need a right winger. Because right now, the only right winger we have, is Mata. And he's not exactly young, neither is he really a right winger imho. Have you seen Marcus play on the right? Spectacular stuff. And Martial? I don't know about you, but I would rather play without wingers than play him at RW for 40 games next season. He's just not a RW. Lingard? He's 25 years old, and not really a RW either. So which young RW are you thinking about? :)

Sure, we'll free Real Madrid of "dead weight" as you put it. But as @Judas says, it will be mutually beneficial. He would improve us drastically, and they get rid of a player who's out of favor with Zidane. There might be more reasons to him being out of favor than "being on the wane". Zinedine Zidane prefers to play Isco over Bale. If we can get Isco, I would be just as in favor of that, as I would be to us signing Bale. For all I care, get them both!

And when you start comparing Bale to Rooney (I suppose you mean the Rooney of 2015 - 2018) and a second hand Delorean, you just look silly.

Edit: You added a part about having to change out a few players withing the next few years. Many of these are players we should start phasing out and finding replacements for this window, not in 3 - 4 years. If we keep and play Valencia, Young and Rojo for anoher 4 years, I'd be very, very surprised.
 
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JarleA said:
Wow. Just wow. The bolded parts. Come on, man :lol:

First of all, he's 28, turning 29. He's not old just yet. He should be in his prime right now, and will be for another few years. I really don't think he's shown any signs of a decline. I actually think this season he's redeemed himself a bit. As long as he can stay fit, he'll be spectacular yet again.

Which young player of ours deserves/ are able to play on the right? And which young players of ours are world beaters and ready to take us to the next level? We desperately need a right winger. Because right now, the only right winger we have, is Mata. And he's not exactly young, neither is he really a right winger imho. Have you seen Marcus play on the right? Spectacular stuff. And Martial? I don't know about you, but I would rather play without wingers than play him at RW for 40 games next season. He's just not a RW. Lingard? He's 25 years old, and not really a RW either. So which young RW are you thinking about? :)

Sure, we'll free Real Madrid of "dead weight" as you put it. But as @Judas says, it will be mutually beneficial. He would improve us drastically, and they get rid of a player who's out of favor with Zidane. There might be more reasons to him being out of favor than "being on the wane". Zinedine Zidane prefers to play Isco over Bale. If we can get Isco, I would be just as in favor of that, as I would be to us signing Bale. For all I care, get them both!

And when you start comparing Bale to Rooney (I suppose you mean the Rooney of 2015 - 2018) and a second hand Delorean, you just look silly.
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It is. Bale's brand is on the wane and he's coming to a point when he's riding more on his name and the odd goal rather then on what he does on the pitch week in week out. I feel sorry for him, I really do. Unlike Rooney he's problem are down to injuries not professionalism. However considering our horrible injury track record he's way better off elsewhere then with us and considering the salaries/fees involved we'll better off looking elsewhere rather then him.

Sanchez was supposed to be brought as a RW. Having two 28-29 year olds on the flanks is not good especially considering the massive talent we've got in Rashford and Martial.

Names won't make you win the league. A good system and hungry reliable player that fit well into it does. Bale is a top player but his injuries makes him unreliable. Considering his salary and the fee involved we'll better look elsewhere. I wouldn't mind if we get him on a Falcao like loan though.

Regarding sponsors, if you think that Bale will bring a big number of sponsors our way then think again especially if Real gets Neymar, PSG gets Ronaldo and Barcelona gets Griezmann. We're talking here of top players not Real's spare wheel.
 
I would imagine Bale is quite hungry, and he should be a perfect fit for our system. Also, Bale's brand being on the wane is something entirely different to Bale as a player being on the wane. Even Neymar's brand has been on the wane since he chose to join the tractor league.
 
JarleA said:
I would imagine Bale is quite hungry, and he should be a perfect fit for our system. Also, Bale's brand being on the wane is something entirely different to Bale as a player being on the wane. Even Neymar's brand has been on the wane since he chose to join the tractor league.
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I disagree. Sponsors who spend big money to be linked to players would rather be represented by top guys then some crock. The only player who achieved that was Ronaldo (the Brazilian). There again he was the best striker in the world playing for one of the best nation teams in the world. Bale is struggling to keep his place with Real.

Its depressing really. While Liverpool are busy building a magnificent side we seem to be determined to build the 2014 top side.
 
devilish said:
I disagree. Sponsors wouldn't want to be associated to a crock with a decent chance of him ending in the treatment room for most of the time. The only player who achieved that was Ronaldo (the Brazilian). There again he was the best striker in the world playing for one of the best nation teams in the world. Bale is struggling to keep his place with Real.
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I'm sure sponsors will run in the opposite direction if we sign Gareth Bale. :rolleyes:
 
JarleA said:
I would imagine Bale is quite hungry, and he should be a perfect fit for our system. Also, Bale's brand being on the wane is something entirely different to Bale as a player being on the wane. Even Neymar's brand has been on the wane since he chose to join the tractor league.
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devilish said:
I disagree. Sponsors wouldn't want to be associated to a crock with a decent chance of him ending in the treatment room for most of the time. The only player who achieved that was Ronaldo (the Brazilian). There again he was the best striker in the world playing for one of the best nation teams in the world. Bale is struggling to keep his place with Real.
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Bale would become a massive face in England again especially the fact the club and him are both Adidas sponsored. I don't see how Adidas wouldn't want to force him in our face at every Adidas store, TV advert and billboards ect. It'll probably be bigger than Pogback. Could even see Bale getting his own Boot made like Poggy. Worlds most popular club tied in with one of the best footballers about who are both sponsored by Adidas... Will be massive
 
JarleA said:
I'm sure sponsors will run in the opposite direction if we sign Gareth Bale. :rolleyes:
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now you're being silly. What I am saying is that the top sponsors who spend ridiculous amounts of money on image would want to be associated to top players not Real's spare wheel who will probably spend a big chunk of the season in the treatment room.
 
Cheekiey said:
Bale would become a massive face in England again especially the fact the club and him are both Adidas sponsored. I don't see how Adidas wouldn't want to force him in our face at every Adidas store, TV advert and billboards ect. It'll probably be bigger than Pogback. Could even see Bale getting his own Boot made like Poggy. Worlds most popular club tied in with one of the best footballers about who are both sponsored by Adidas... Will be massive
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maybe he'll be a hit in the local pool up until he spends a couple of months in the treatment room while Kane is busy scoring goals again. However United are way bigger then the British market.
 
devilish said:
now you're being silly. What I am saying is that the top sponsors who spend ridiculous amounts of money on image would want to be associated to top players not Real's spare wheel who will probably spend a big chunk of the season in the treatment room.
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I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. I like Delorean anyway.
 
JarleA said:
I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. I like Delorean anyway.
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So do I. However if I was loaded I would go for the latest ferrari not a second hand Delorean.
 
devilish said:
So do I. However if I was loaded I would go for the latest ferrari not a second hand Delorean.
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So to keep going with this analogy, who's a Ferrari we can actually buy? Who'll want to come, who's a RW, and who'll want to join us?
 
The £200 million figure being banded about is ridiculous. Even £120 million for a 28 year old is silly money, and these figures don't factor in wages on top. I don't think Bale is going to make us City beaters. One player won't do that, especially with the way lack of any clear attacking philosophy. Bale has proved he can change a game on his own but he won't do that every game. It's more important to get a clear attacking style then it is to get one player on the hope that when our attacks not working he'll come up trumps.
 
JarleA said:
So to keep going with this analogy, who's a Ferrari we can actually buy? Who'll want to come, who's a RW, and who'll want to join us?
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To answer your question, if we're spending good money for a right winger then we should go for Mbappe. Else we spend distribute the money to strengthen different positions and get a decent/promising winger on the right for us to develop. We did that when Kanchelskis left and we did the same when Beckham left. That worked well for us.

Now if Real are that desperate to get rid of Bale then maybe they should offer him on a 1-2 year loan with the right to buy. Alternatively they can either allow him to leave as a free transfer or subsidise part of his salary. In both cases we'll should be interested for a deal.
 
JK-27 said:
The £200 million figure being banded about is ridiculous. Even £120 million for a 28 year old is silly money, and these figures don't factor in wages on top. I don't think Bale is going to make us City beaters. One player won't do that, especially with the way lack of any clear attacking philosophy. Bale has proved he can change a game on his own but he won't do that every game. It's more important to get a clear attacking style then it is to get one player on the hope that when our attacks not working he'll come up trumps.
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I sure hope we won't only buy one player? If we only buy Bale, we wont really fix everything. If we fix all of the other problem areas as well, we might be on to something.

And sure, getting a clear attacking style is very, very important. But getting the right players to do this surely matters a lot? Or are you proposing sacking Mou to get a more attacking mentality? Because Mou needs a right winger to make his system work.
 
devilish said:
To answer your question, if we're spending good money for a right winger then we should go for Mbappe. Else we spend distribute the money to strengthen different positions and get a decent/promising winger on the right for us to develop. We did that when Kanchelskis left and we did the same when Beckham left. That worked well for us.

Now if Real are that desperate to get rid of Bale then maybe they should offer him on a 1-2 year loan with the right to buy. Alternatively they can either allow him to leave as a free transfer or subsidise part of his salary. In both cases we'll be interested.
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If Mbappe is available, sure. Buy Mbappe instead. But I've seen no indication that he's actually available (other than some headlines about PSGs issues with FFP). I've seen even less indication that we're trying to get him. Also I've seen no indications that he's keen on joining us.

And I don't think Real Madrid are really "desperate" to get rid. I think they will sell if they get a good fee, if not, they're happy to keep him.
 
JarleA said:
I Mbappe is available, sure. Buy Mbappe instead. But I've seen no indication that he's actually available (other than some headlines about PSGs issues with FFP). I've seen even less indication that we're trying to get him. Also I've seen no indications that he's keen on joining us.

And I don't think Real Madrid are really "desperate" to get rid. I think they will sell if they get a good fee, if not, they're happy to keep him.
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If they aren't desperate then they should keep him. However I have a feeling that they are else they wouldn't come up with this crap.

As said, if they want him out then they can offer us a deal similar to the one offered to Bayern for James. Else may they enjoy paying ridiculous money for a reserve.
 
Daniel Moore said:
I'd still have him. Not my money. I think people are a bit to precious about the clubs money. no use moaning about transfer fees and wages anymore I'm afraid. Your peeing into the wind!
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This is such a naive and immature point of view to take. You realize the club doesn't have unlimited money? You realize we need several other players who will have to be bought with money?
 
devilish said:
If they aren't desperate then they should keep him. However I have a feeling that they are else they wouldn't come up with this crap.

As said, if they want him out then they can offer us a deal similar to the one offered to Bayern for James. Else may they enjoy paying ridiculous money for a reserve.
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I agree that Real should give us a good deal, cut the price, or whatever. But we're bitter rivals in the transfer market after the fax machine broke. That won't happen.

And paying ridiculous money for a reserve seems alright if he bangs in 20 goals a season and wins them another CL.
 
Cheekiey said:
Bale would become a massive face in England again especially the fact the club and him are both Adidas sponsored. I don't see how Adidas wouldn't want to force him in our face at every Adidas store, TV advert and billboards ect. It'll probably be bigger than Pogback. Could even see Bale getting his own Boot made like Poggy. Worlds most popular club tied in with one of the best footballers about who are both sponsored by Adidas... Will be massive
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A massive monkey face you mean.
 
Id rather do no business with Real at all. Let's not give a brilliant but aging squad any help.
 
JarleA said:
I agree that Real should give us a good deal, cut the price, or whatever. But we're bitter rivals in the transfer market after the fax machine broke. That won't happen.

And paying ridiculous money for a reserve seems alright if he bangs in 20 goals a season and wins them another CL.
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From their POV, we're as much of their bitter rivals as West Ham or Leeds are ours.

As said I wouldn't want the club to ridiculously overpay for anybody let alone someone who'll probably spend much of his career with us in the treatment room.
 
devilish said:
From their POV, we're as much of their bitter rivals as West Ham or Leeds are ours.

As said I wouldn't want the club to ridiculously overpay for anybody let alone someone who'll probably spend much of his career with us in the treatment room.
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I said bitter rivals in the transfer market. Even if I meant rivals in general, I think you're way off. We're a richer, more famous club than them. Which is something they really strive for. We're the biggest club in the world, which is ultimately Real Madrids goal. Or has been for the last century, at least.

And the last point is valid. However, the way you've expressed that opinion earlier, makes it sound like we're trying to make Owen Hargreaves come out of retirement.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Are we really desperate? or is Bale just a class player that can change a game within 20 minutes of being on the pitch?

We don't have anybody of that quality on the right side of the pitch. He's got everything you need in a top player, the only doubt is his injury record.

Right now I don't see many younger up and coming RW options that are a "must buy" if Mahrez will cost 75m then I think we can get Bale for around 120m which isn't awful.
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120m for Bale would be absolutely awful for all the reasons that have been mentioned hundreds of times in this thread already.
 
Positively_Reformed said:
If it is true we offered the same amount as Real Madrid when Moyes took over, then Gareth Bale's agent would have absolutely known about that, so he could have easily pushed a move through to us. The player is really the one in control here, I mean yeah, technically Spurs still could have still said no, but there was no way Levy was turning down 85 million smackeroonies at that time! It's not like we were even rivals at that point. We were the champs, Spurs were still also-rans.
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If we were the only club in for him that may have worked. Levy is a pain in the arse to deal with, but with a world record offer we might have been able to convince him. But with Real Madrid also offering him a world record offer, it wouldn't have worked out anything like that.

Bale would have had to absolutely refuse to sign the guaranteed Real Madrid contract that was in his hand, and then spent the entire transfer window fighting Levy to try to accept our bid. By the end of the window it may have eventually happened, but why put himself through all that? How many players in the world would have done that? Basically only somebody who is a HUGE Man Utd fan or somebody who would refuse to ever leave England. Bale isn't either of those things.

I'm not even big in the Bale-in camp, but I don't think these supposed 'rejections' should come into play at all.
 
Should put a clause in the contract.

"if player is injured for more than 3 months of the season, in total. Transfer package total for that season, is 25p", or something.

Could potentially cost us 250m over 4 years...

Or £1. Could even throw in a packet of salted peanuts too..

Easy.
 
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For 50m, with 350k a week wage - sure! But reality is that Madrid will fleece us and i don’t think Bale is worth it considering his injury record. If he was fit, he would play all the time as he is a class player, but Zidane has found out he can’t rely on him.

There is more sensible solutions in the transfer market, like Bailey or Pulisic. They are not at the same level at all, but they are just at the beginning of their career and with a lot of hunger to make it.
 
How much has his 2 goals in the CL Final increased his market value? There was hardly any Bale talk before that. Now he is being valued at more than 100m!
 
With proper player management, I think Bale can be great for United. Play the likes of Lingard for less important games.

Watched the 2007 2008 team, RRT as first team forwards with Nani, Giggs and Saha as backup. United need to get back to that level again.
 
£120 million is very tempting if we have a budget of £150-200 million net. It's probably a lot more complex than that with wages factored in etc. but Darmian, Blind, Shaw can probably fetch another 40-50 million combined, so with that money we could get Bale, Fred and a left back, which I would be happy with.
 
I know i'm biased because he just tore Liverpool a new one, but I'd really like to sign Bale. He's at his peak right now, someone who knows the league and plays RW, somewhere we are screaming out for a player. We can use Periera as a backup and in a few years time, hopefully add Chong to the mix if he ever makes it. The only gamble is his injury woes.

The perfect signing would be Mahrez, but that doesn't seem to be happening.
 
Well, he only won them at least 2 Champions League titles. Think he's worth the money. On song, terrifying player. Can win you a game from anywhere in a 40 yard area.
 
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