Leighton Baines

Baines will be 28 in december. He is 3 years younger than Evra.

He is not worth anywhere near £15m. But we splurged £16m on Young so doing so again on an average player is not beyond us.

I would rather we spent it on a younger player than an average to nothing player.
 
If fergie goes in the Baines then he's starting to show he's lost it, surely we have to be looking to bring in a young player who can grow into the role over next 1/2 seasons.
 
If fergie goes in the Baines then he's starting to show he's lost it, surely we have to be looking to bring in a young player who can grow into the role over next 1/2 seasons.

We having flipping Fabio. How many young players so we need? Rather have a tried and tested how can play competitive matches to a reliable consistent level. Evra was faulting last season.
 
If fergie goes in the Baines then he's starting to show he's lost it, surely we have to be looking to bring in a young player who can grow into the role over next 1/2 seasons.

Stop talking shit, If you had followed Fergies teams then you would know that he always hada mix of youth and experience, we already have Fabio, Rafael, Smalling, Jones and Fryers who are all young defenders 2 of which are capable of growing into good left backs if we are going to sign someone in this position surely someone of more experience would be better rather than another youngster.

I really don't get peoples obsession with only signing young people, do people want us to turn into Arsenal?
 
It's not just his age, it's the fact that he's distinctly average and over-priced.
 
Spain's first choice costs 11m and England's second choice would cost around 17mil. feck this shit, english players are so over priced. I hope we dont sign him at the quoted price
 
Baines will be 28 in december. He is 3 years younger than Evra.

He is not worth anywhere near £15m. But we splurged £16m on Young so doing so again on an average player is not beyond us.

I would rather we spent it on a younger player than an average to nothing player.

Ashley Young was far above an average player for us last season. That said, £15M for Leighton Baines is price gouging madness.
 
Spain's first choice costs 11m and England's second choice would cost around 17mil. feck this shit, english players are so over priced. I hope we dont sign him at the quoted price

Well Alba did only have one year left on his contract which definitely helped Barca out, though I'm not sure how many Baines has left on his.
 
Baines would probably prove a good buy. It certainly seems a sensible option. Are there any other good LBs available?



I used make a point of closely watching Evra last season. He used to be fantastic but has dropped off considerably and Lb has become a weakness in our team. Hopefully some competition for his place can reignite his form though.
 
Ashley Young was far above an average player for us last season. That said, £15M for Leighton Baines is price gouging madness.

I can't believe you think £15m for a proven PL player at age 28 is madness?

That's a fair price IMO it's not 2002 anymore. Revenues have increased dramatically so playing assets are worth more these days.
 
If fergie goes in the Baines then he's starting to show he's lost it, surely we have to be looking to bring in a young player who can grow into the role over next 1/2 seasons.

This is nonsense. Whether it would be a good signing or not is very debatable, but it doesn't show at all in the slightest that Fergie is losing it. That's just ridiculous.
 
We having flipping Fabio. How many young players so we need? Rather have a tried and tested how can play competitive matches to a reliable consistent level. Evra was faulting last season.

On Fabio, I think there are a lot who are losing patience with him. He's clearly talented, but until he can get rid of his injury problems then we can't really expect too much from him.
 
I can't believe you think £15m for a proven PL player at age 28 is madness?

That's a fair price IMO it's not 2002 anymore. Revenues have increased dramatically so playing assets are worth more these days.

I'll have to disagree with you. £15M is not a fair price for a player of his quality. If he wasn't English, I don't think we'd even be having this discussion.
 
It will be one of the most pointless signings in the history of signings if this is done, especially if Evra is going nowhere
 
Baines had the 4th most accurate crosses per game last season. Valencia 10th, Nani 12th. Mata the most of a wide player last season, though he did play in the middle as well. He's 7th

The next best full-time fullback is Sagna at 40th. Newcastle's Ryan Taylor is at 30th but I'm sure I saw him playing in midfield at times
 
Martin Olsson
Schmelzer
Vertonghen
Yanga-Mbiwa

All cheaper all younger. I really hope Fergie doesn't do this.

None give the same dimension.

If its legit that we're trying to sign Baines then its obviously for one particular reason. The upside that no other left back out there has. Top delivery into the box
 
Age doesnt matter. If we get 6 years from him, it'll be worth it.
I just dont think we need him that badly.
That and the fact that I like Evra and hope he regains his form..

I dont think he is worth that kind of money either, but that doesnt matter. If we sign him, how much we pay for him wouldnt bother me one bit.
 
I think if we sign him for a fair amount of money, it'll be because resale value doesnt matter to us when we sign a player like him. He's going to have great crossing till well into his 30s and thats his strength and why you would buy him.

Evra on the other hand, his strengths are speed and dribbling. Speed at least has gone down in his 30s. In all likelyhood he'll get worse from this point not better.

I can see why people would want someone younger, but if theres anyone younger and has the same sort of delivery as Baines then I've certainly never heard of him. And if we do go on and pay for Baines, then our scouting staff and Sir Alex will not have heard of them either.
 
Baines is only 5'7? Surely if we Rafael becomes first choice RB we can't have two fullbacks that aren't good in the air?
 
Rafael is fairly good in the air, good for his size definitely. Evra won 1.3 aerial duels per match last season, Rafael 1.0

Comparison to say City's fulbacks, Kolarov 1.1, Zabaleta 1, Clichy 0.9

Baines for Evra would definitely take that down though
 
Rafael's not bad in the air, same with Evra but SAF rarely has played two short fullbacks together. Whilst Evra's been first choice, he's played Brown, O'Shea, Jones and Smalling there.

Baines certainly doesn't have Evra's spring either so it's a little bit of a worry.
 
Could it be the case that Evra wants out and that SAF had to find a quick fix for it? The gaffer may have convinced the Frenchman to stick for another year to give Baines some sort of transition period. Meanwhile Fabio will be sent on loan to gain that EPL experience needed to act as Baines's future cover/competitor

I know that it may sound ridiculous, in fact, that's exactly what I thought when I heard the rumor at the club, few months ago. I always thought that we'll go for a young player such as Clyne or stick to Zeki. However now things seems falling into place. We're sending Fabio on loan and we're getting an experienced left back on good money
 
Could it be the case that Evra wants out and that SAF had to find a quick fix for it? The gaffer may have convinced the Frenchman to stick for another year to give Baines some sort of transition period. Meanwhile Fabio will be sent on loan to gain that EPL experience needed to act as Baines's future cover/competitor

I know that it may sound ridiculous, in fact, that's exactly what I thought when I heard the rumor at the club, few months ago. I always thought that we'll go for a young player such as Clyne or stick to Zeki. However now things seems falling into place. We're sending Fabio on loan and we're getting an experienced left back on good money

Evra's only got a couple of years left at the top IMO. This move, if it comes off, is a mixture of getting cover for what we need, giving Evra some competition and also with an eye on the future. I'm not convinced Fergie even sees Fabio as a left back anymore due to the number of games he has played on the right for the club.
 
Baines aware of Man United talk

Leighton Baines is aware of the speculation linking him with Manchester United - but he does wish Everton could start keeping their best players.

Baines failed to make an appearance during England's Euro 2012 campaign, which is a shame because he would have been a handy presence during the penalty shoot-out against Italy last Sunday that ultimately cost Roy Hodgson's men their place in the competition.

He then returned home to face stories suggesting Sir Alex Ferguson is about to make a move.

The 27-year-old insists he knows little of United's interest.

However, after spending five years at Goodison Park, it has become a recurring theme for Baines to witness manager David Moyes having to sell his best players.

"Obviously over the years the manager has lost players that I am sure he would have liked to have kept hold of," said Baines.

"Whether the club has needed the money or whether it's because they have received what they consider is a considerable bid for a player they have always done good business.

"The manager has done well in bringing people in at a certain amount and when they have moved on he has tended to double his money or more.

"The club have always been quite savvy in that sense.

"It has never really hindered us and it's never seen us getting any worse.

"But maybe it would be nice to see us hang on to those players and add a couple."

Baines now finds himself being spoken about as of interest to a potential suitor.

Recent history suggests United would not sign a player of such experience as cover for Patrice Evra, so for a deal to go through, it would surely either require a fundamental change of role for the Frenchman, or his departure from Old Trafford altogether.

"I've been aware of what's been said in the press but I don't know much beyond that," said Baines, who still has three years left on his present deal.

"It doesn't do any harm (to be linked) but it doesn't do any good either.

"It's just one of those things that tends to swing around this time of year. People put two and two together sometimes they get four and sometimes they get three or five.

"It gets other people more excited than those involved."


In the meantime, Baines will take a short break and return to Everton eager to exert further pressure on Ashley Cole for his England place.

There was no sign of this tournament of Cole's ability diminishing.

And, just two caps short of his century, it appears certain the 31-year-old will extent his England career into the 2014 World Cup qualifiers.

Baines is not worried though. With eight caps to his name, he is happy to keep providing the competition.

"Ashley is different class," said Baines.

"There are not many better than him and hopefully he can keep on playing as well as he has been because that can only be good for England.

"I will keep trying to push him and doing what I can do.

"Hopefully if I get a chance I can do well enough to get in there."

Source: http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/article/312/7854196/baines-aware-of-man-united-talk

I've bolded the more interesting parts of the quotes.
 
Evra's only got a couple of years left at the top IMO. This move, if it comes off, is a mixture of getting cover for what we need, giving Evra some competition and also with an eye on the future. I'm not convinced Fergie even sees Fabio as a left back anymore due to the number of games he has played on the right for the club.

Evra's stay at the top has arguably come to an end already.
 
From what i ve read, it seems that Baines is a down to earth family man who is not distracted by off the field issues. In other words, he s more like scholes and irwin than like beckham .
I think Fergie appreciates that.
 
From what i ve read, it seems that Baines is a down to earth family man who is not distracted by off the field issues. In other words, he s more like scholes and irwin than like beckham .
I think Fergie appreciates that.

It should be added that Baines probably is about 1% as interesting to the media as Beckham was - both in terms of quality and personality. So the pressure on him to be involved in off the field-issues, probably is a bit smaller than Beckham :)
 
Baines will be 28 in december. He is 3 years younger than Evra.

He is not worth anywhere near £15m. But we splurged £16m on Young so doing so again on an average player is not beyond us.

I would rather we spent it on a younger player than an average to nothing player.

This. Too old for my liking. Evra hasn't been good enough to start for us for quite awhile and we need someone with some years ahead of them. I think Baines is decent, nothing more. And his age is an even bigger issue. He's not a young talent. He's not going to get better than decent IMO.

For 5-7 million it would make some sense, not 15.