In comparison to who like for like. Fletcher? Don't joke. We may as well bid for Sully Muntari of Inter, or Derossi, other players who aren't as good as Fletcher.
Lassana Diarra
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In comparison to who like for like. Fletcher? Don't joke. We may as well bid for Sully Muntari of Inter, or Derossi, other players who aren't as good as Fletcher.
I've always been slightly baffled by the Lass hate on here. Arse fans don't like him because he did well after leaving them but I can't understand why Utd fans hate him.
He hasn't done well after leaving us - he played at Portsmouth which was about his level and has now been dumped by Real.
really he didnt do well after leaving pompey
His first season at Madrid was very good
He is just an average player; very physical. A no-brainer.
His quality aside, the biggest problem would be the fact Lass demands first team football.He did it at Arsenal,Pompey and Madrid.
Don't hate him, just don't think he'd bring anything to our squad.
If you can't see that Diarra is not the same type of player as Darren Fletcher then you argument doesn't really hold up.
People may disagree but I personally feel that at times we could do with a Hargreaves type player, sitting infront of the back four, a water carrier if you like. Given that Hargreaves probably won't be back, who have we got who can do that job? Fergie obviously feels that type of player is useful given his purchase of Hargreaves in the first place, and subsequent success with him in the team.
Fletcher doesn't play like that, nor should he. He's a box to box player who at times is the most attacking midfield player we have.
I don't doubt there are better players out there, you'd want Essien in an ideal world, but you also didn't answer the question as to who else you would suggest who'd be availabe at the right price.
Really? I watch a fair bit of Spanish Football and as I rememeber it he was popular with the Madrid fans and had a very good season.
I don't rate him and would be gutted if we bought him. Sure he's physically impressive, but his usual routine of getting the ball, taking on 3 players and passing it back to the, usually creative, midfielder who's forced to cover the room he left doesn't strike me as anything but stupidity. Fans are easily impressed by his ability to beat man, but if you're unable to gain anything by doing it where's the point?
Also, his positional play and passing leaves a lot to be desired, to pretty important aspects of midfield play.
Also, his positional play and passing leaves a lot to be desired, to pretty important aspects of midfield play.
Of course I know they are different players, I just don't think there is anything Diarra can do any better than anyone we have in the squad at the moment. Fletcher can do everything he can and more.
That's not a problem is it, he'd get first team football with us. Couldn't see us playing him in the reserves.
Scholes, Anderson, Carrick and Fletcher would be ahead of him...
He's a better player than Carrick and Anderson.
I don`t want him.
He wasn`t good for Chelsea, Arsenal and Real Madrid.
He was only good enough for Portsmouth
That says everything for me.
He wasn`t good for Chelsea, Arsenal and Real Madrid.
He was only good enough for Portsmouth
That says everything for me.
IF he was to be bought it wouldn't be for no reason.
Regardless of the validity of that (bollocks) we like our midfielders to be progressive passers and Diarra's just not that, so he's not getting regular football. And then he's going to whinge about how he's being misused and mistreated and he'll ccept he;s not cut out for the top level.
That's in this weird fantasy world where Sir Alex would ever want him, which goes against so much of his transfer philosophy.
He isn`t better than Carrick or Anderson or Fletcher + i´ve massive hopes for Pogba.
Not true.
The only central midfielder we should be looking at is Modric.
L. Diarra is a disastrous player.
L. Diarra is a disastrous player.
Come on mate, please don't turn into a peterstorey-type of WUM, it's not even funny. He's quite comfortably worse than both Carrick and Anderson in pretty much every aspect.
I don't think you can just rule it out like that, this particular rumour has been doing the rounds for about 2/3 years now. I think we're looking into it almost definately, whether he does something or not I don't know.
I think you're doing a disservice to his passing and if he was as one dimensional as you make out then Arsenal, Chelsea and Madrid wouldn't have come calling. I think i'm right in saying that they all wanted him to stay aswell. Mourinho has stated several times he wants him to remain at the club. He would be an asset for us definately, especially considering Hargreaves' situation. And at 25 he's still learning and improving.
Much better than people are giving him credit for. But, I can't see us going for him at the same time.
I feel he would give us something we have missed this season. A destroyer, break it up in the middle of the park. I feel Fletcher has been below par this season, over used. All players need a bit of a rest.
Yeah, Modric is the only midfielder in the whole world who would improve us
How is Diarra a disastrous player in any shape or form?
Diarra would definitely be a success here. Absolutely no doubt. He failed at Chelsea and Arse for the simple reason that he was too young to break into the first teams. Any player that can put in some good shifts at Real is no flop.
When we were linked to Van Der Vaart all you could hear on here was `If he is not good enough for Real then we dont want him`. But now everyone is slating Fergie for not buying hm at such a good price. Same moans were heard for Robben and Sneijder!
I would way prefer Rodwell as he can be groomed to be great while Carrick and Fletch run the show for now but Fergie probably wants a heel snapping bull dog to go straight into the team and protect our back 4 more!!
When we were linked to Van Der Vaart all you could hear on here was `If he is not good enough for Real then we dont want him`. But now everyone is slating Fergie for not buying hm at such a good price. Same moans were heard for Robben and Sneijder!
I would way prefer Rodwell as he can be groomed to be great while Carrick and Fletch run the show for now but Fergie probably wants a heel snapping bull dog to go straight into the team and protect our back 4 more!!
Rodwell will be hideously over priced.
Rafael van der Vaart would not have been a success here.
He is a player that you need to build a team around. He isn't good enough for Real Madrid or Manchester United to do that. If he came here, there would be no room for Berbatov; that isn't happening.
I don't really understand the Rodwell hype, either. He had a good U21 tournament a few years ago but hasn't really established himself at Everton yet.
Diarra is not the type of player we need. Like I said, Modric is ideal.
I don't think Diarra is amazing or anything like that but he's better than many are making out. If he does sign (which I doubt) then I expect he'll prove a number of people wrong.
Can't agree with that at all.
He played well for Madrid in a 4-3-3 formation and has taken to the PL like a duck to water, consistently producing match winning performances week in week out.
Its nonsence to categorically state a player of that quailty wouldn't do it for another team, especially when he has hit the ground running with Spurs despite the last minute transfer to a new country. Thats a sign of real quality.
Its not a case of "not being good enough for Madrid". He played there regularly for two seasons but managers change and new players come in. They may have wanted to keep him but with only a couple of years left on his contract and him on big wages clubs sometimes need to balance the books, especially if said player fancies a move and isn't nailed on first choice.
I suspect that Fergie will be looking at Van Der Vaart with the need to strengthen midfield over the next couple of years and be thinking he missed out on a bargain.
VDV plays behind Crouch. We have Berba and Rooney who would start regularly. The only other place he would play is outwide, which won't happen since we have Valencia and Nani.
His problem is his rashness. On and off the pitch.
Moussa Sissoko for starters.
I hate it when footballers demand first team football instead of earning it.The only place Diarra would be most of the time is the bench IMHO and he's too arrogant to accept it.He wouldn't play reserve football obviously but he'd be a bench warmer that's for sure
Lass Diarra started for Madrid tonight and got subbed off at halftime. He apparently then left the stadium. Not the best advert I've ever heard.
Where did you get that info? It will be pretty interesting to see how Madrid and Mourinho react to this.
He was dreadful today.
The Spanish TV and press are reporting it, but as no one has him saying anything it's hard to know if it's significant or not - except that in Real(ity Show) Madrid every gesture is reported as soap opera.
I guess it depends on the circumstances. Leaving two minutes early to avoid the crowd is naughty but probably just gets him a smack on the wrist. Leaving because he's angry and wants to make a point is different.