Lassana Diarra
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Clarifying - in as much as there's anything in the story.
The Marca article says that M.Diarra, whose contract ends at the end of the season, has an offer from Malaga and would like to be released now.
Meanwhile Lass wants a new contract, a payrise and "assurances" about his role. His agent says that United are interested. But then he would, wouldn't he?
If someone (us?) buys Lass in January, Madrid are expected to keep M.Diarra until his contract runs out, otherwise they'll let him go.
As I've said before in the thread, I've seen Lass turn in some excellent performances with Madrid but he doesn't link well with Alonso, so he's less a reject and more a doesn't-quite-fit for them. Whether he'd fit better with us I don't know, I can't actually visualise the lineup with him in it, but not because I think he's a poor player.
Where have you been this past month or so? Fletcher, yes he has been below par the last three months. But Carrick has been performing way better than last season. He has very good this year.
Anderson a disappointment? Seriously? Two to three months ago, maybe. But not anymore he isn't. He is going to be a regular for us and one of the first names to go on the team sheet the rest of the season.
Gibson, well he isn't going to be a regular for us even if hell freezes over. But he is a good squad player and if he fine with being 5th or 6th choice, then why not have him to play him in the Carling and FA Cup games?
I think Scholes might actually go on for another season. He has been brilliant this season and has just taken over games. This injury is just a blip and he will be back strong and he knows he is going to play regularly for us if he is not injured. I can't wait to see the new Ando-Scholes-Carrick combo in midfield. I say new because Ando has not played this well for us since he moved here.
Giggs might retire this season because his age is catching up to him fast. But he plays on the left wing and we have enough cover on the wings even if Giggs leaves. So Giggs staying or leaving is not going to be a factor in us getting Diarra.
He's crap, runs around a bit and kicks people, we could buy Karl Henry and we wouldn't notice a difference
I do not like players of his ilk. Plus, Diarra is a poor example of this type of player. He is not United quality.
No thanks, dont think he would really improve the team, in the age of squad limits if United are going to buy another CM hopefully it is better than Lass
Our central midfield is that average that I wouldn't mind him
Thanks for clarifying the situation jojojo.
Probably because he's been injured and missed the world cup. He may therefore be struggling to get in to what is a fairly decent side going by teh way they played against England. For me he is as good as Toulalan in any event.
Toulalan isn't a starter anymore either.In M'Vila France has got a younger and much better player than either of them right now and no injuries have got nothing with the fact Blanc doesn't consider him as a starter.
I actually rate him as a player. He's not just a shit kicker as people are saying, he's good on the ball whenever I've seen him for Real and when he played his trade in England. The one issue I'd have with him is his attitude really. If they were guarantees regarding that then I think he'd be a good acquisition.
A good player who ruined his career by moving to Madrid.
Common story when it comes to Real.
Common story when it comes to Real.
he went from Portsmouth.....:-/
Not the right player for our midfield imo. Would be a mistake in buying him for what would be an over inflated price.
I got a feeling that Fergie have already identified Rodwell as the holding midfielder, i expect him to join us in the summer so cannot see us signing Lass in January or in the summer..
He'd be a fantastic replacement for Hargreaves, if for some reason we needed one. I mean we've done more than fine without him. Still, he's better than Hargreaves has ever been for United or England so he wouldnt be a bad signing in the right circumstance
Mcfeckwit strikes again
He's a good player only not getting chances under a new manager. It almost reminds me of Pep freezing Toure out in preferance of Busquets, Diarra is just as good if not better than Khedira. And while I dont think he's as good as Toure, I do think that whoever signs him will get him back to his best from a year ago when he was a popular player with the Madrid fans - which isnt an easy thing to achieve
I think as far as defensive midfielders go the rest of his game is quite good. As an individual im not sure he's United material but he's alot better than some would have you believe.
The only problem with the bloke is that he just demands to be a regular, with this type of attitude, I don't think we'll ever go for him...
I'd rather take my risk by trying Pogba for our MF than sign this twat.
Not that he is a bad player, on the ball skills are on a high level, runs his ass of nearly everygame, his passing might not be the best but it ain't bad...
He is definitely a good player, but maybe just not the right attitude.
I'd rather take my risk by trying Pogba for our MF than sign this twat.
Not that he is a bad player, on the ball skills are on a high level, runs his ass of nearly everygame, his passing might not be the best but it ain't bad...
He is definitely a good player, but maybe just not the right attitude.
Ridiculous post, Lass is a gifted technical player with a good engine- if you want to compare him to anyone he's a bit like Mohamed Sissoko (of Liverpool fame) but more creative.
Absolutely ridiculous post. Carrick hasn't been under performing while Ando has been very good in past month or so. Diarra won't be first choice at all.
It's not a ridiculous post. How standards have fallen... Carrick has only started performing decently like 1 month ago? Anderson was anonymous in his last game, granted prior to that, he had a good month. All things aside, Carrick and Anderson have been underperforming for the last 2 seasons. Fletcher, though underperforming this season, could at least be excused for his consistency in the many seasons prior to this. Diarra is a superb defensive midfielder and i think a lot of people are underrating him due to the fact that he wasn't given a chance in Arsenal and was playing for Portsmouth.
Love the revisionism. Not going to turn this into a Carrick thread.
Don't want Diarra. Would always prefer a midfielder who can pass it around a bit. Personal preference. I'd rather an Alonso or a Carrick over a Mascherano or Hargreaves.
Or a Defour, Hamsik, Ninis or Cleverley.
Defour and Henderson are overrated here in the Cafe.
Henderson I haven't been impressed with (he is still a kid though so plenty of time) but I have been with Defour. To betruthful I've hardly heard any major goings on about Defour on the caf.
£14m, this is obviously a joke!! He is valued around £11m and United want to pay Real £3m more than the asking price........
My rule of thumb is four proven top class players for two positions.
Thus for two spots on the wings we have Nani, Giggs, Valencia and Park w/ Obertan as a project for the future and Rooney used there in a pinch. Or, for two spots up top in a 4-4-2 we have Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez and Owen w/ Macheda as a project and the rest sent out on loan.
The two CM spots have been covered by Scholes, Fletcher, Carrick, Hargreaves and Anderson w/ Gibson as a future project and Giggs played there in a pinch. We've had plenty of cover for injuries, and there would be no need for Lass.
With Hargreaves crocked, Carrick off form, and with Scholes thinking retirement there might be value in bringing in Lass. Like Hargreaves or Park he could be very useful in the big matches or in Europe when United go to a 4-5-1 and look to play more defensively. He has Premier league experience, and he has had a taste of life in continental football.
At the very least we can force Real Madrid to pay him to keep him.
Thus for two spots on the wings we have Nani, Giggs, Valencia and Park w/ Obertan as a project for the future and Rooney used there in a pinch. Or, for two spots up top in a 4-4-2 we have Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez and Owen w/ Macheda as a project and the rest sent out on loan.
The two CM spots have been covered by Scholes, Fletcher, Carrick, Hargreaves and Anderson w/ Gibson as a future project and Giggs played there in a pinch. We've had plenty of cover for injuries, and there would be no need for Lass.
With Hargreaves crocked, Carrick off form, and with Scholes thinking retirement there might be value in bringing in Lass. Like Hargreaves or Park he could be very useful in the big matches or in Europe when United go to a 4-5-1 and look to play more defensively. He has Premier league experience, and he has had a taste of life in continental football.
At the very least we can force Real Madrid to pay him to keep him.
If we are getting Diarra, then I hope we won't spend more than 10M on him. When does his contract end?
The reason he breaks up play so well is because the first thing the idiot does is launch himself into a tackle. It doesn't make him better defensively than Carrick.
The French Lee Clattermole, with a better engine.
The French Lee Clattermole, with a better engine.
Why can't we get him on loan for like six months to see how he does here? That deal could have an option letting us to buy him at the end of the six months.
Why can't we just ignore him and try to sign someone better than what we already have.
I would say as a CM option he would be better than Hargreaves and Gibson.
but not Carrick, Fletcher, or Anderson, so why bother with him, would rather we brought someone else through the youth (ie Pogba) or get some one in who would be an improvement to the team.
This is very true. On top of that, Scholes isn't fit and is getting up there in age, and Anderson is raw and has had fitness problems of his own throughout his career. That leaves only Fletcher and Carrick.
I doubt we ever see Hargreaves properly back in the squad again, and I'm tired of Gibson giving the ball away every touch. It would be foolish to say that Diarra wouldn't strengthen our current squad, especially in a position that is so weak.
There's far better options out there, especially in the summer window.
Like who?
I'm not saying he's a world beater but he'd be fairly cheap, has plenty of PL and international experience and is better than what we have in terms of like for like players.