Suedesi
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Lie strong Lance
He needs to lose everything so that other people get the message. Otherwise the lesson will be you can cheat, make millions, weather a bit of a storm and then keep all the dosh.
I don't care that he was doping. I suspected he was all along and it didn't bother me then either.
It isn't like he is Ben Johnson and cranking while nobody else was and cheated Carl Lewis out of his glory. Oh wait...
Carl Lewis was doping, and so was everyone who Lance was competing against.
Great argument...Say you don't care and that's your right.
But please don't attempt to defend him. He wasn't just doping, he has at the pointy edge of the needle.
Everyone wasn't doing it, the year Cadel Evans won it, the overall speed of the tour and more importantly the speed of the mountain climbs came right down(of course the mountains were where Lance destroyed most of this opponents with Herculean efforts - efforts that we all know are a sham now).
Everyone doping doesn't even the field out - everyone wasn't on the same quality of dope, and everyone didn't react to it equally.
Armstrong steps down as Chariman of the Livestrong campaign.
Nike have also now temrinated his contract.
His fall from grace is almost complete it would seem.
Armstrong steps down as Chariman of the Livestrong campaign.
Nike have also now temrinated his contract.
His fall from grace is almost complete it would seem.
Will he now confess to his crimes? I would guess not as it would open the door for a plethora of law suits.
Great argument...Say you don't care and that's your right.
But please don't attempt to defend him. He wasn't just doping, he has at the pointy edge of the needle.
Everyone wasn't doing it, the year Cadel Evans won it, the overall speed of the tour and more importantly the speed of the mountain climbs came right down(of course the mountains were where Lance destroyed most of this opponents with Herculean efforts - efforts that we all know are a sham now).
Everyone doping doesn't even the field out - everyone wasn't on the same quality of dope, and everyone didn't react to it equally.
This is a loser mentality. Instead of looking for ways to rationalize what and how Lance did what he did. Just accept he was the best ever. He did everything better, trained better, rode better, strategized better and he doped better.
I hardly think you will find ANY of Lance's competitors come out and say "waaaa he doped better than me" because that is just straight pathetic.
The most exciting tour stage I have ever seen was the Floyd Landis come back in 2006 I think it was. So how do we proceed? Again, I don't know, but right now it is a farce. This is all about selling copy and destroying an image. The media never lets the facts get in the way of a good story.
I thought Nike had gone completely bonkers there.Armstrong steps down as Chariman of the Livestrong campaign.
Nike have also now temrinated his contract.
His fall from grace is almost complete it would seem.
Nuckwit.Just accept he was the best ever. He did everything better, trained better, rode better, strategized better and he doped better.
I can't help but feel with every dog coming out now, it's effectively started to vindicate lance on what he did.
This is a loser mentality. Instead of looking for ways to rationalize what and how Lance did what he did. Just accept he was the best ever. He did everything better, trained better, rode better, strategized better and he doped better.
I hardly think you will find ANY of Lance's competitors come out and say "waaaa he doped better than me" because that is just straight pathetic.
The reality here, and people really need to pay attention to this point, doping is always going to exist. It will ALWAYS be at least one or two steps ahead of controls. People who win at this level will *almost* always be gaming the system in some regard.
This is all about selling copy and destroying an image. The media never lets the facts get in the way of a good story.
That a serial American drugs cheat stood on the Olympic podium for the men's 100mtrs this year is an absolute disgrace.
I wonder if they'll continue their livestrong clothing line. I would assume so, but who knows. Just very much seems he's now trying to distance his cycling and cancer research as far away from one another as possible, but Nike with livestrong on it just further extends that brand.
This is a loser mentality. Instead of looking for ways to rationalize what and how Lance did what he did. Just accept he was the best ever. He did everything better, trained better, rode better, strategized better and he doped better.
I hardly think you will find ANY of Lance's competitors come out and say "waaaa he doped better than me" because that is just straight pathetic.
The reality here, and people really need to pay attention to this point, doping is always going to exist. It will ALWAYS be at least one or two steps ahead of controls. People who win at this level will *almost* always be gaming the system in some regard.
The problem then is, how do you proceed. It is impossible to keep a level playing field. It just is not possible. I don't know how it should be resolved. We can continue to cling to the illusion that doping control works and that the playing field is level, or we can let things go where they are going to go and allow the individual athletes to determine what risks they are willing to take with their bodies.
The most exciting tour stage I have ever seen was the Floyd Landis come back in 2006 I think it was. So how do we proceed? Again, I don't know, but right now it is a farce. This is all about selling copy and destroying an image. The media never lets the facts get in the way of a good story.
Utterly delusional. Armstrong is one of the biggest cheats and frauds in sporting history and he should blame himself for his disgrace.
I'm not sure it's possible to come back from this. Not only has he lied time and time again, he's committed perjury. Lance Armstrong will go to prison. Chances are he'll come back and do a Marion Jones - admitting to everything, and trying to get people onside. Personally I blame the USADA more than Armstrong. He can dope all he wants, it's then up to USADA to catch him, but they chose not to.
Sadly, cycling will never have a clean reputation, and it will affect future generations. Even Bradley Wiggins now, you wonder, was he completely clean? How can you know?
I don't quite understand why you brought me in to this, i'm not defending lance, I just stated that with every cheat now coming out of the wood work, it's effectively vindicating him to the eyes of the public as it says, well if everybody else was on it, it's fine. It's not the right way to think, but that's how people are seeing it.
I'm not sure it's possible to come back from this. Not only has he lied time and time again, he's committed perjury. Lance Armstrong will go to prison. Chances are he'll come back and do a Marion Jones - admitting to everything, and trying to get people onside. Personally I blame the USADA more than Armstrong. He can dope all he wants, it's then up to USADA to catch him, but they chose not to.
Sadly, cycling will never have a clean reputation, and it will affect future generations. Even Bradley Wiggins now, you wonder, was he completely clean? How can you know?
You are a bank being vilified for your greed and fecking the world economy. So you attempt to uplift your image by sponsoring a bunch of even greedier, more corrupt, cheating scumbags.Bit of a bombshell today with Rabobank leaving the sport.
the most drug-tested athlete in history and he never failed a test.
You are a bank being vilified for your greed and fecking the world economy. So you attempt to uplift your image by sponsoring a bunch of even greedier, more corrupt, cheating scumbags.
the most drug-tested athlete in history and he never failed a test.
Are you saying he didn't do anything wrong? Is this what most Texans believe?
no! and i have no idea. haven't heard any "texans" talking about him. was just sayin'.
I would still like to see a positive, legitimate, test.