La Liga 2024/25

You just had a feeling that's coming with just how much Barca have dominated this game.

Barca now on a very City esque run in the league. Embarrassing stuff.
 
Atletico played like shit, and won somehow, stunning.

Wish it had stayed a draw though.
 
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Well, well, well, not so easy to find a manager that doesn't suck shit, huh?
 
fLiCk bAlL

It was just Yamal Ball all along. Barca minus Yamal have been garbage. Been carried by the prodigy all season.
They were really good today, had all the chances but just couldn't score. Lewandowski going back to last year's form hasn't helped. That being said, I agree, Yamal is most clearly their most important player. They just can't win without him
 
Poor result for Madrid though. Atleti look a lot more capable of putting together a bit of a title challenge than Barca. Lewandowski needs to be dropped too.
 
Barca still play good football but they now have been exposed defensively. They concede goals every game and are nowhere near as clinical offensively as they were earlier this season.
 
Barca look like they’re just missing a goal machine like Guiu.
 
Barca still plays good football but they now have been exposed defensively. They concede goals every game and are nowhere near as clinical offensively as they were earlier this season.
They weren't even really exposed defensively in the two games they've just lost, tbf. They've made Atleti look about as good as Leganés last week but their clinical finishing from earlier in the season has gone and that's affecting them. They should have comfortably won these two games and they've ended up with nothing
 
They weren't even really exposed defensively in the two games they've just lost, tbf. They've made Atleti look about as good as Leganés last week but their clinical finishing from earlier in the season has gone and that's affecting them. They should have comfortably won these two games and they've ended up with nothing

It's not just those two games, they haven't kept a clean sheet in the league in ages. They have been shocking defensively. Not only do they make individual errors but their high line is now being exploited by every team. The second Dortmund goal, the action right before Leganes' corner kick and tonight again.
 
It's not just those two games, they haven't kept a clean sheet in the league in ages. They have been shocking defensively. Not only do they make individual errors but their high line is now being exploited by every team. The second Dortmund goal, the action right before Leganes' corner kick and tonight again.
Yes, over the larger period, I'd agree but just these last two games have actually been a positive. It's been two of Barcas best performances of the season in terms of the complete domination and chance creation. They've also actually conceded very very chances. It's just two of those games where nothing goes your way.
 
I know his overall title wins as a manager haven't been that many and people criticize his football, but if Simeone wins another La Liga, how high would people rate him in the history of modern managers? As people have said in the Pep thread, context can make up a big part of 'greatness' as well as trophies and Simeone has been loyal, is clearly at a club where two teams are set up to dominate, but just keeps on fighting.
 
Yes, over the larger period, I'd agree but just these last two games have actually been a positive. It's been two of Barcas best performances of the season in terms of the complete domination and chance creation. They've also actually conceded very very chances. It's just two of those games where nothing goes your way.

The football played was good indeed and the finishing was poor. But let's not forget that Leganes are one of the worst teams in the league and Atletico only came to defend, not to play. They beat PSG exactly this way. Flick has to make adjustments, they can't go on like this.
 
It's not just those two games, they haven't kept a clean sheet in the league in ages. They have been shocking defensively. Not only do they make individual errors but their high line is now being exploited by every team. The second Dortmund goal, the action right before Leganes' corner kick and tonight again.
They have some really inexperienced players, playing a 17 year old CB all the time and their midfield really lacking any physicality. Great talents in their own way but just some very obvious flaws that will be exposed every so often. Bit like a more accomplished Spurs, they will blow some great teams away but also losing random games as well.
 
Every time I say Simeone needs to step down, he steps up again.
 
Sorry but Flick is an IDIOT for insisting Barca to continue to play this ridiculous high line.. The trick worked one or two times. (Bayern and Madrid games particularly) but it was fecking obvious that the other teams will figure it out eventually.. very poor from the coach in the tactical area indeed...
 
Sorry but Flick is an IDIOT for insisting Barca to continue to play this ridiculous high line.. The trick worked one or two times. (Bayern and Madrid games particularly) but it was fecking obvious that the other teams will figure it out eventually.. very poor from the coach in the tactical area indeed...
High line hasn't been the problem the last two games actually. At all.

They just got fooball'd. That happens when you Miss 6 Billion Chances

Flick might have to rethink the entire setup, depending on confidence levels across the team, not just the high line. Might be team to go full Allegri
 
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Barca probably need to slow down with the offside traps. In the action leading up to Atletico's second goal, we can see Pedri and Cubarsi slowing their run to draw a potential offside. The problem is Molina came from way behind. At the end Pedri is late and Sorloth scores.

Perhaps an even better example of the drawbacks of overusing this strategy is the second goal they conceded against Dortmund. It's so wired in Cubarsi that he just stepped forward instead of defending.
 
Barca probably need to slow down with the offside traps. In the action leading up to Atletico's second goal, we can see Pedri and Cubarsi slowing their run to draw a potential offside. The problem is Molina came from way behind. At the end Pedri is late and Sorloth scores.
It's actually working and the moment they spot Molina they start hauling ass back. The problem is Baldé, who is supposed to track Molina, doesn't. They didn't actually defend that action any different than Liverpool or Arsenal would have. It was the 96th minute and they were throwing themselves forward trying to score, too
Perhaps an even better example of the drawbacks of overusing this strategy is the second goal they conceded against Dortmund. It's so wired in Cubarsi that he just stepped forward instead of defending.
Yes, that was an example of overusing the offside trap, which they do, it's just not actually been a particular issue except in 3-4 games

Again, it's not games like yesterday they should worry about. It's games like Betis they should worry about
 
That was classy. Bernabeu knows how to send off players, even when they play for the other team

This Mbappé feller might be pretty good afterall. Who knew...
 
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The tsar bomb took one look at Fede's right leg and thought humanity's arms race has gone overboard
 
I know his overall title wins as a manager haven't been that many and people criticize his football, but if Simeone wins another La Liga, how high would people rate him in the history of modern managers? As people have said in the Pep thread, context can make up a big part of 'greatness' as well as trophies and Simeone has been loyal, is clearly at a club where two teams are set up to dominate, but just keeps on fighting.

Regardless of his style of football, Simeone's achievements with Atletico have been outstanding. I rate his first title win as second only to the Leicester title win in terms of footballing achievements
 
If he were five years younger I’d take him at United

When he is calm and when he wants he can be great...yet the over the top De Paul can be extremely over the top with antics, with risking too much, with his "me against all" fights...the lazy one? looking like not even wanting to be on the pitch.

None the less, he should had a bigger quantity of great perfomances given the combination of personality, stamina and talent he has when he is on, yet he is De Paul, take or leave it.
Atthe NT even in his bad matches he gives always sthg. at club level? depends on the wind blowing.

PD: Paredes very similar approach in his carreer, yet a with more finesse and lesser stamina
 
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Regardless of his style of football, Simeone's achievements with Atletico have been outstanding. I rate his first title win as second only to the Leicester title win in terms of footballing achievements

He is smart, he has a big character like when he was a player, yet he many times wants his teams to be like robots and excessively pragmatic to the point of being annoying. He had teams and periods of them where he can do great football, but he likes too much to control everything, fvcking not few times the best atributes of his players.
It's bizarre too how he wants his players to be so obedient while he was one of the less obedient Mofos out there when he played.
 
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Inevitable. Feels like they're running out of time and options though. Really sad seeing the mess they're in.
 
Let us do the right thing. And push them down

Their own fans want it!
 
Carlos Corberon apparently going to Valencia. They have triggered his release clause.
Can't help but feel like that's them preparing for life after relegation. I hope I'm being unfair to the club and Corberon - I only really know the raw statistics of his work at WBA and Huddersfield.

I know he did work with Bielsa so I guess he's got an idea or two Maybe he'll turn out to be a great coach for a relegation scrap (or a promotion one)

https://www.marca.com/futbol/valenc...vidad-decision-irme-dificil-toda-mi-vida.html
 
Can't help but feel like that's them preparing for life after relegation. I hope I'm being unfair to the club and Corberon - I only really know the raw statistics of his work at WBA and Huddersfield.

I know he did work with Bielsa so I guess he's got an idea or two Maybe he'll turn out to be a great coach for a relegation scrap (or a promotion one)

https://www.marca.com/futbol/valenc...vidad-decision-irme-dificil-toda-mi-vida.html
On the radio they said he nearly moved in the summer because the WBA didn't want to spend much money.