La Liga 2018/19

Mrs Smoker said:
So, not 0-3 loss, but straight elimination?

When will we know?
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I don´t know, but it seems that Levante are going to denounce.
Barsa talks about "simultaneity of player licenses"
"The club says that the license of Chumi is 2B reason why the sanction, according to the regulation, must fulfill it in his league
The player has a license of 2B and another with the first team "
 
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What do you mean by denounce? Levante says it is ok, and play 2nd leg?
How is that possible? Isn't there a rule to be followed ?
 
What is it with refs and applying lack of injury time in Spain?

Betis- La Real game just now. Five minutes added. Betis player goes down with cramp/fake injury for around 30 seconds. Then they're taking Lo Celso off and he takes too long to get off the pitch so he's sent off and then Betis protest and that takes well over a minute to sort out. Then Betis make another sub after that so really we're talking about another 2 minutes extra.

He blows up on 95:20 after a corner is cleared. Spanish refs are the worst by miles in the major leagues for this.
 
FootballHQ said:
What is it with refs and applying lack of injury time in Spain?

Betis- La Real game just now. Five minutes added. Betis player goes down with cramp/fake injury for around 30 seconds. Then they're taking Lo Celso off and he takes too long to get off the pitch so he's sent off and then Betis protest and that takes well over a minute to sort out. Then Betis make another sub after that so really we're talking about another 2 minutes extra.

He blows up on 95:20 after a corner is cleared. Spanish refs are the worst by miles in the major leagues for this.
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I absolutely hate that shit.

If I was a ref I would add every second being wasted in extra time x3.
 
carvajal said:
Do you remember when they eliminated Madrid for playing with Cherysev? (against Cádiz, in la copa del Rey). Something similar has happened to Barcelona, with a player called Chumi.
Apparently everything depends on whether Levante denounce or not.
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Apparently the rules have changed. He's not banned if its a culmination of yellows and if it is then he's banned from that competition only.
Or so they say on Reddit.
 
cyberman said:
Apparently the rules have changed. He's not banned if its a culmination of yellows and if it is then he's banned from that competition only.
Or so they say on Reddit.
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oh, what a pity. Too complicated. I think the federation itself is confused in these cases.
 
Dembele looks to finally fulfill his potential this season. And Messi, wow! How can football look so easy for him?
 
Dembele's potential is much more than what showed this season. He doesnt make the best decisions yet. However Mbappe know what to do everytime.
 
Br1_ovi said:
Dembele's potential is much more than what showed this season. He doesnt make the best decisions yet. However Mbappe know what to do everytime.
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Mbappe's decision-making is a bit overrated, and I'm a huge Mbappe fan. They both have a big margin of progression in that regard. Dembele is much more raw but also more talented and completely two-footed, if he puts it together he will be the best player in the world.
 
Sayros said:
Mbappe's decision-making is a bit overrated, and I'm a huge Mbappe fan. They both have a big margin of progression in that regard. Dembele is much more raw but also more talented and completely two-footed, if he puts it together he will be the best player in the world.
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I'm not sure he'll ever be that good.

I know he's putting up good statistics and I believe he's a great talent, but I still feel in the long run he has to work on his finishing. Both of today's finishes were lucky. One wasn't basically the defenders finish. And the other was a terrible finish that happened to go in. He was put in on another one on one by Messi where he did some weird lob.
 
Br1_ovi said:
Dembele's potential is much more than what showed this season. He doesnt make the best decisions yet. However Mbappe know what to do everytime.
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Give Dembele a run in the team like he is having atm and you clearly see he has improved a lot.
 
Sayros said:
Mbappe's decision-making is a bit overrated, and I'm a huge Mbappe fan. They both have a big margin of progression in that regard. Dembele is much more raw but also more talented and completely two-footed, if he puts it together he will be the best player in the world.
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Agree with the first part, disagree with the rest. The reason why Mbappè's decision making looks so good is because he can consistently make the wrong decision work. Dembele is a better dribbler and looks better on the ball, but he isn't. He's nowhere near. I would be very surprised if Dembele were to become better than Mbappé. He might get close, but Mbappé is just more talented
 
So, if marca is correct, it was indeed an infraction by barcelona, but levante appealed it outside the time limit(monday at 14), so now it's down to whether the judge accepts their appeal or not. If she does it's likely barcelona will be kicked out

As an aside, real madrid did the exact same thing in 2016/17 against cultural leonesa. Nothing happened back then as cultural didn't appeal

The biggest story here is that spanish clubs don't know the freaking rules :lol:
 
amolbhatia50k said:
I'm not sure he'll ever be that good.

I know he's putting up good statistics and I believe he's a great talent, but I still feel in the long run he has to work on his finishing. Both of today's finishes were lucky. One wasn't basically the defenders finish. And the other was a terrible finish that happened to go in. He was put in on another one on one by Messi where he did some weird lob.
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Yeah, those finishes were pure luck, but the fact that he could have easily had a hat trick shows he's getting into better positions. He set up Messi with a chance he should have easily scored from and also created the opening that led to Semedo's assist to Messi. He's still only 21 with a huge margin of progression. Right now, he tends to make the difficult goals look easy and the easy ones difficult, which is pretty standard for massively talented players with undeveloped finishing. This season felt like his make-or-break season for what his career might shape up to be, and it's still not over but it's looking rather positive compared to just a few months ago. As far as attacking players, he's been the second most important player to Barcelona this season and he will finish this season for sure with the most goals he's ever scored in a season.

giorno said:
Agree with the first part, disagree with the rest. The reason why Mbappè's decision making looks so good is because he can consistently make the wrong decision work. Dembele is a better dribbler and looks better on the ball, but he isn't. He's nowhere near. I would be very surprised if Dembele were to become better than Mbappé. He might get close, but Mbappé is just more talented
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We disagree on their talent, which is very subjective to begin with so that's normal. However, for you to say Dembele is nowhere near Mbappe on the ball is a bit too much. There are certain things Dembele can do with it that Mbappe can't, I'm not so sure about the other way around on a skill-level. When it comes down to intelligence while on the ball, which is something one can develop over time, then yeah Mbappe has the biggest margin of progression over Dembele (along with off-the-ball movement). It'll be interesting to see how those two develop along with Jadon Sancho. Right now, they're the three that stick out the most when it comes to attacking players. All I know is I wouldn't be as shocked if Dembele comes out on top of the heap in a few years.
 
Sayros said:
We disagree on their talent, which is very subjective to begin with so that's normal. However, for you to say Dembele is nowhere near Mbappe on the ball is a bit too much. There are certain things Dembele can do with it that Mbappe can't, I'm not so sure about the other way around on a skill-level. When it comes down to intelligence while on the ball, which is something one can develop over time, then yeah Mbappe has the biggest margin of progression over Dembele (along with off-the-ball movement). It'll be interesting to see how those two develop along with Jadon Sancho. Right now, they're the three that stick out the most when it comes to attacking players. All I know is I wouldn't be as shocked if Dembele comes out on top of the heap in a few years.
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Yeah, nowhere near was obviously an exageration, but you talk about intelligence on the ball, and i counter that the reason why Mbappé seems so much mlre advanced in that regard is that he is simply better. Put simply: there fewer bad decisions for Mbappé, because he has the talent and ability to pull off more stuff. Some of dembele's bad decisions are actually good decisions for Mbappé, because Mbappé can pull it off, while Dembele can't
 
giorno said:
Yeah, nowhere near was obviously an exageration, but you talk about intelligence on the ball, and i counter that the reason why Mbappé seems so much mlre advanced in that regard is that he is simply better. Put simply: there fewer bad decisions for Mbappé, because he has the talent and ability to pull off more stuff. Some of dembele's bad decisions are actually good decisions for Mbappé, because Mbappé can pull it off, while Dembele can't
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I really think the main difference between the two is that Mbappe knows his game better than Dembele knows his, or rather he knows his limitations a bit better than Dembele who acts like he doesn't have any limitations, as if he can make any pass, dribble any player, which will result in silly ways of losing the ball (and sometimes in extraordinary goals/assists). Mbappe explores his game as well, but with a much clearer understanding of what he can and cannot/shouldn't pull off, at least that's the impression I get from him. Obviously Mbappe is the clear favorite to come out on top of this generation, but I still believe Dembele has a great chance to become the main guy of this up-coming generation. If I had to make a safe bet, I'd go with Mbappe, but with good odds I'd take a swing on Dembele becoming the best, he just needs to want it as much as Mbappe does but Mbappe is a bit psychotic in that sense so it'll be difficult to do.
 
next copa del rey round:

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Real Madrid -
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Girona -:- (-:-)

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Getafe -
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Valencia -:- (-:-)

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Sevilla -
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Barcelona -:- (-:-)

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Espanyol -
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Betis -:- (-:-)


sucks for Sevilla. I guess everyone else can be fairly happy with the draw.
 
Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87 said:
Getafe thrash Alaves 4-0. Getafe are another club having a great season.
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I bet Jose Bordalas enjoyed that considering Alaves sacked him despite winning them promotion in 2016. Getafe are doing great under him, he got them promoted, finished 8th last season, and are currently in 6th with the second best defence in the league (16). And this is only Bordalas' second season in the top flight.
 
Reus -Las Palmas has been suspended. Reus won´t play again this season
 
DavidDeSchmikes said:
Why?
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They have not paid the players for months. A few weeks ago they denounced and now for what I understand is a question of deadlines and the war between the Federation and la liga. The Federation allows the match but the league does not (the discipline judge). It is precautionary, but the situation already seems very in the limit, so they want to avoid that they start playing the second round
 
Sayros said:
I really think the main difference between the two is that Mbappe knows his game better than Dembele knows his, or rather he knows his limitations a bit better than Dembele who acts like he doesn't have any limitations, as if he can make any pass, dribble any player, which will result in silly ways of losing the ball (and sometimes in extraordinary goals/assists). Mbappe explores his game as well, but with a much clearer understanding of what he can and cannot/shouldn't pull off, at least that's the impression I get from him. Obviously Mbappe is the clear favorite to come out on top of this generation, but I still believe Dembele has a great chance to become the main guy of this up-coming generation. If I had to make a safe bet, I'd go with Mbappe, but with good odds I'd take a swing on Dembele becoming the best, he just needs to want it as much as Mbappe does but Mbappe is a bit psychotic in that sense so it'll be difficult to do.
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I agree that Mbappe knows his game better and I feel that's because he has more limitations. His game is more straightforward and his path to success is simpler and he know exactly what he has to do to succeed. Dembele doesn't seem to have limitations to his game, he can pass, be playmaker, shoot, play on the wing, etc.. He's got so many different paths available to him to succeed sometimes trying to figure out exactly the best can be complicated. Once he figures out exactly what kind of player he is, the sky is the limit for Dembele.
 
Johnny Love said:
I agree that Mbappe knows his game better and I feel that's because he has more limitations. His game is more straightforward and his path to success is simpler and he know exactly what he has to do to succeed. Dembele doesn't seem to have limitations to his game, he can pass, be playmaker, shoot, play on the wing, etc.. He's got so many different paths available to him to succeed sometimes trying to figure out exactly the best can be complicated. Once he figures out exactly what kind of player he is, the sky is the limit for Dembele.
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Mbappé can do all of that, at a higher level than Dembele. The only thing Dembele is better at than Mbappé is dribbling. Mbappé has better vision, is a better passer, better off the ball, higher football IQ, etc. He doesn't understand his limitations better so much as he has fewer limitations(but yes, he also understands his limitations, and the game itself, better than Dembele)
 
Sevilla just signed Munas Dabbur (CF from RB Salzburg) for the next season. Maybe the management doesn't plan to trigger the clause for Andre Silva afterall. Its a difficult decision; 39m would be a hell of a lot of money for him.
 
Mbappe and Dembélé are just different types of players - both with as much as talent you can probably have (beside Messi). I would nail it down to: Mbappe is more of a striker (late CR7) and Dembélé is more of a midfield player (Messi).
 
Fantastic performance from Modric today, Madrid actually played well too but it's obvious that they need goalscorers.
 
Sean_RedDevil said:
Sevilla are so awful away from home against the top sides......last 34 games: 4 draws and 30 defeats.
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Didn't see the game but saw stats near the end and they only had 1 shot on target so guessing they played pretty negatively for the 0-0? Missed opportunity with Madrid not in great form and not at full strength.
 
Didn't see the first half but in the second Sevilla was very bad,the midfield couldn't contain the play.
They looked very tired.
Good Madrid second half but lots of problems to score.
Vini always running a lot and looking for a combination but I think it was the worst of his last matches
 
Peyroteo said:
Fantastic performance from Modric today, Madrid actually played well too but it's obvious that they need goalscorers.
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We need someone to occupy the box with Benzema. Vinicius is amazing though :drool: great dribbler and always tries stuff. Can't wait to see what he'll be in 3 years

We were really good in the second half, but needed a wondergoal by Casemito to win. Solari keeps insisting with Lucas who should never be a starter. He's an impact sub, that's how he should be used
 
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