Let the fireworks begin 
La Liga - 2012/2013
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
Real started rebuilding the team in 2009 when Ronaldo arrived. There were several great spanish players available, some left for England, some went to Barca. Villareal, Valencia were build around quality spanish players back then, for example. Not one ended up at Real (besides Alonso).
Why sell Carvajal this season to Leverkusen, when you don't have a quality right back? Selling him and bringing in Essien on loan is unbelievable stupid. I really don't get it. It's not all about Barca. Madrid's making some serious mistakes when it comes to spanish players, imo.
Mourinho has to realise that when you manage possibly the greatest club in the world, the 'Special One' act wears thin... you have to adapt your persona in order to manage a club of that magnitude and sensitivity carefully. At City for example, it would be 'his' club.. everywhere he has gone he's managed to stamp his personality on the team and the players are in awe of him, fully dedicated to the cause.
At Madrid there has always been the feeling that some of the players are not overly in awe of him, their team never feels like a 100% united outfit, they play like a team of individuals who are willing to put aside personal issues in order to win, whereas Barcelona are all singing off the same hymn page.
Don't think Jose is necessarily a poor manager, but I feel this job was too big for him and he didn't have the awareness to realise he had to adapt his style/personality in order to fit in.
Porto, Chelsea, Inter... Madrid, its a different kettle of fish entirely.
At Madrid there has always been the feeling that some of the players are not overly in awe of him, their team never feels like a 100% united outfit, they play like a team of individuals who are willing to put aside personal issues in order to win, whereas Barcelona are all singing off the same hymn page.
Don't think Jose is necessarily a poor manager, but I feel this job was too big for him and he didn't have the awareness to realise he had to adapt his style/personality in order to fit in.
Porto, Chelsea, Inter... Madrid, its a different kettle of fish entirely.
It's just football but feck me its great isn't it? When do we think he will leave now, surely this changes everything?
I've never seen league standings displayed like this. For whatever reason I really like it. Good to see a new team in the top 2. I wonder if Atletico can hold onto their players better if they keep second.
Raees said:
Yep, and SAF warned him about it.
What did he say?
Surely he is gone before the start of next season. Even if he turns things around and wins Europe I'm guessing the higher ups have already started looking for or found his replacement. Is he United-bound next season? I wish we could have SAF for another year or two but this may just force the issue?
Thread when Pellegrini was sacked: https://www.redcafe.net/f7/pellegrini-sacked-297276/
I bet Jose wishes he never went.
FIFA keeping from Atletic's keeper there!
I bet Jose wishes he never went.
He did win the league.
Christ, it's actually looking more realistic by the day that they might finish behind Atletico. That'll be absolutely embarrasing to be honest considering the resources Madrid have at their disposal. In the context of their city rivals possibly finishing ahead of them, that'll be their worst league campaign in 18 years I think.
Got a feeling Atletico will pinch second.
Shame you aren't playing Real now in the CL, you would thump them.
Nah I think they would be up for it.
I wonder how much problems he had in that season, it's very interesting.
I'd prefer they replace Jose now, bring in a new guy who lifts the team for a few games before reality comes back and hits them and then we get to play them
It seemed they (e.g. the media) never really took to him even if he did bring them 100 pts.
He doubled down by benching him...we'll see what comes next
He deserves to be subbed just for wearing those socks.
Marca
"Iker is not to blame"
81% of Marca's readers say Mourinho should be sacked
http://www.marca.com/debate/2012/12/3012/prevotaciones3012.html
http://www.marca.com/debate/2012/12/3012/prevotaciones3012.html
Maybe the question should now be: tonight or tomorrow?
Maybe that was why he was benched?...Or is that the gear he was made to wear while on the bench?
Won't be surprised to wake up to it.
Iconic or legendary?
Could be angling to get fired so he can secure his hefty payout. Perez made a deal with the devil, now he'll have to pay up
Sacking him just isn't the solution and will only cost the club more money. He should finish the season. Winning the league over Barcelona last season has earned him that much surely? If we win the CL this season all of this will soon be forgotten.
I take it that Mourinho will try and play the "victim", card as per usual.
Marca puts the boot in:
"Iker is not to blame"
to be precise, it means "it wasnt iker's fault" wich is a lot more insulting
This is Marca's "quote of the day" -- did he really say that?
I would say a bit of both.
"Iker is not to blame", or "It wasn't Ikers fault", both imply the same thing though. La Marca are clearly sharpening their knives, and they are only for one person.
Marca's latest headline is a bit much, IMO
Marca in English:
"I'm not considering quitting and I’m not worried about my job", said the Portuguese, who, as soon as he sat down, was asked what reasons he had for leaving Iker Casillas on the bench. "Adán is better", he said. "The work put in by the goalie that played has not been at all significant in the result".
He lost the plot
It seems he didn't exactly say "Adán is better".
Asked whether he had relegated the Spain international to the bench because he believed Adan was the better keeper, Mourinho said: "In my opinion? Of course.
"As it's the opinion that counts, as it's the coach who chooses and as I consider the opinions of my assistants valid we decided," added the Portuguese. "It seems to me...the work of the keeper who played had absolutely no bearing on the outcome of the game. The coach analyses the situation and analyses the players available, chooses the team to play. You can invent all the stories you like but it's a purely technical decision and nothing more."
Asked whether he had relegated the Spain international to the bench because he believed Adan was the better keeper, Mourinho said: "In my opinion? Of course.
"As it's the opinion that counts, as it's the coach who chooses and as I consider the opinions of my assistants valid we decided," added the Portuguese. "It seems to me...the work of the keeper who played had absolutely no bearing on the outcome of the game. The coach analyses the situation and analyses the players available, chooses the team to play. You can invent all the stories you like but it's a purely technical decision and nothing more."