No biggie
Kylian Mbappe | PSG
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His contract runs out in 2022, at which point he'll still be just 23 years of age. He'll be able to do pretty much anything he wants going forward, I reckon... Should be great to see.
Or, you know, they can just skip this part, pay Oblak's release clause and keep the world's hottest prospect for themselves?
The type of player 'The Richest Club in the World' should be targeting. He would undoubtedly put butts in the seats.
Farmer league is something like Scottish league or Belgium league. In fact the french league reveals every year a lot of huge talents and France is number one when it comes to exporting pro footballers. Recently Lyon went in EL semi finals, Marseille in the final last year. You have a lot of great players playing in Ligue 1, it's just that you don't know them yet, just wait this summer to see how much English club will spend on them
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Apart from that crazy run vs Argentina penalty, he has failed to impress me honestly.. like, he's a good player, but sort of reminds me of Krasic
Oh, you would? I mean what kind of an imbecile wouldn’t?
Krasic?
Come on! Given the age and the quality/potential of both, this will never happen. Pogba if he leaves, we'll be paid maybe 120-150 mil, Mbappé will go to Real for 250-300 mil.
He is talking about Milos Krasic, he was a regular at Juventus for 2 years a while ago.
But the comparison is borderline ridiculous though as Mbappe has already surpassed krasic's achievements before the age of 19.
I've been saying for over 3 years now (Fernando, if you're here, will know that) that United absolutely need to do everything in thwir power to get Mbappe.
Don't care what it costs. Don't care whom they ask for in return. Don't care if Woodward would need to perform a sexual favour or two. Just do everything to get Mbappe, and if that fails, do even more.
Seriously, this kid is beyond the real deal, and the fact that he's actually a firm contender for the Ballon d'Or at age 19 says all that needs to be said.
Don't care what it costs. Don't care whom they ask for in return. Don't care if Woodward would need to perform a sexual favour or two. Just do everything to get Mbappe, and if that fails, do even more.
Seriously, this kid is beyond the real deal, and the fact that he's actually a firm contender for the Ballon d'Or at age 19 says all that needs to be said.
I have a hard time hearing this "farmer league" argument over and over again. Is Ligue 1 easier than PL? Of course, but the difference isn't as enormous as most PL fans pretend in a pretty condescending way.
First, Ligue 1 is PL's favourite market and you have several major PL players playing better in england than they did in France, even during their first year in PL. It means that it's not a whole different sport their. Hazard and Kante are arguably 2 of the best players in PL and had no trouble adjusting to it.
Second, someone said Neymar is making french defenders look ridiculous in L1. He pretty much did the same thing everywhere and if L1 really lacks great offense players, the defense level is more than decent.
Third, competition is supposed to be far harder in PL and there's allegdly no good team in France besides PSG. Well it didn't prevent ManCity from winning the championship last year with 100+ points and a 13 points lead. Was PL a farmers league when Arsenal finished the season unbeaten in 2004? I don't think so. I'll had that Mbappé scored twice at 18 (barely) when Monaco eliminated City 1.5 years ago. It really is a shame they tend to sell their best players every year, it weaks L1 tremendously.
First, Ligue 1 is PL's favourite market and you have several major PL players playing better in england than they did in France, even during their first year in PL. It means that it's not a whole different sport their. Hazard and Kante are arguably 2 of the best players in PL and had no trouble adjusting to it.
Second, someone said Neymar is making french defenders look ridiculous in L1. He pretty much did the same thing everywhere and if L1 really lacks great offense players, the defense level is more than decent.
Third, competition is supposed to be far harder in PL and there's allegdly no good team in France besides PSG. Well it didn't prevent ManCity from winning the championship last year with 100+ points and a 13 points lead. Was PL a farmers league when Arsenal finished the season unbeaten in 2004? I don't think so. I'll had that Mbappé scored twice at 18 (barely) when Monaco eliminated City 1.5 years ago. It really is a shame they tend to sell their best players every year, it weaks L1 tremendously.
Great player but overrated by the french media obviously, Neymar is still way better than him and to be honest i find him pretty average technically. We will need to see how he does in the CL, the kid could be at 30% of his potential or already at 100% who knows? When Real Madrid recruited Benzema he was 21 and everyone was impressed by how good he was but he didn't improve much (or at all?) after that.
He really won't. He either leaves PSG on a free, or he stays there. They'll never sell him
If you go by the UEFA coefficients then the French league is the 5th best in Europe, it kind of goes like this
1. Spain
2. England
3. Italy
4. Germany
5. France
The French league is a lot closer to the Russian League in 6th than it is to Germany in 4th and PSG are a lot better than their opponents too so it is impossible to deny that he has it easy in that league. Top players that chose to play in the French League will always get criticised for it unless the French league improves greatly.
That said he's shown the highest level in football's prestige competitions outside of France. Its fair to say that he already leads the group of top attacking players outside of Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar.
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http://www.squawka.com/en/news/how-...to-legendary-modern-goalscorers-by-20/1062862
Best goalscorers by 20:
L. Ronaldo 92
Mbappe 67 (with 2 months to go)
Raul 59
Owen 48
Neymar 48
Aguero 44
Rooney 43
Messi 27
C. Ronaldo 20
Henry 11
Mbappe can reach 75-80 goals by 20 December when he turns 20. Basically, only L. Ronaldo was more productive than him at that age. He scored almost all of those goals in Brazil and Holland.
Edit: Martial and Rashford are probaly on 20+ goals, G. Jesus on 30+.
Best goalscorers by 20:
L. Ronaldo 92
Mbappe 67 (with 2 months to go)
Raul 59
Owen 48
Neymar 48
Aguero 44
Rooney 43
Messi 27
C. Ronaldo 20
Henry 11
Mbappe can reach 75-80 goals by 20 December when he turns 20. Basically, only L. Ronaldo was more productive than him at that age. He scored almost all of those goals in Brazil and Holland.
Edit: Martial and Rashford are probaly on 20+ goals, G. Jesus on 30+.
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PSG are sooo fortunate to have this kid.
He will leave for Real in 2-3 years free if his contract expires (but I don't think so). So 250-300mil but in 2-3 years. I think Neymar will go first (maybe next summer).
I don't think the UEFA coefficient is an indicator of anything considering the way it's calculated. I try to watch a lot of games in Europe and I honestly don't think that Bundesliga is a harder championship for exemple, or if it is it's a very close call. PSG underperformed dramatically this past couple of years and lost lots of points drawing Real Madrid or Barcelona that ealry in the competition.
As for spain, I really think the level is lower than PL now since their top teams seems to trouble transitioning to a new generation, but it will take years to reflect in the UEFA coefficient. It was designed to not change rapidly and it's obviously easier to score points when you have 4 teams playing C1 than 3.
And as I said, the problem in L1 isn't the defensive aspect, it's a rough and tight league. It's the lack of offensive talent so it's not particularly easier to score in France than it is Spain, Germany or England.
Great prospect no doubt. Maybe a little too reliant on his pace at the moment, but he's young and can learn to mix things up a bit more. He's definitely not near Neymar yet, but you shouldn't expect him to be. I've only ever seen one teenager at that kind of level and that was R9.
I do wonder if he's pretty close to his peak ability already though. Most footballers improve on their decision making and footballing IQ more than they do their technical or physical ability. Mbappe already has incredible maturity and a great footballing brain. He may therefore be much closer to his ceiling than say Cristiano Ronaldo was as a youngster, whose decision making was poor.
I do wonder if he's pretty close to his peak ability already though. Most footballers improve on their decision making and footballing IQ more than they do their technical or physical ability. Mbappe already has incredible maturity and a great footballing brain. He may therefore be much closer to his ceiling than say Cristiano Ronaldo was as a youngster, whose decision making was poor.
Rashford 26
Jesus 24
Martial 20
From transfermarkt
Edit: Numbers a bit out as forgot to include country stats and transfermarkt didn't mention a few competitions that Jesus played in. Stats in this post should be right.
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How was tierry henry at his age ?i thought they are comparable..lots of pace..technically okay..can score goals...etc
Also, Ronaldo had (I think) 3 assists when he reached 20. Mbappé is at 37. Meaning (ok it's just stats obviously) that Mbappé was "decisive" 104 times when CR9 was 95 times with still 2 months to go.
Their midfield and defence is just not that great.
I used Wiki, they say Jesus scored 28 for Palmeiras and 5 for Brazil before moving to City (where he scored 3-4 goals before turning 20).
Krasic
Forgot to include country stats for all three. transfermarkt only mentioned the league and Libertadores for Palmeiras so the goals in Copa do Brasil and Paulista weren't mentioned hence why the numbers are a bit far out. This should be okay now:
Jesus 31+5 = 36
Rashford 26+2 = 28
Martial 20
Thanks. Rashford's stats are impressive. They should give his doubters pause. To score 28 goals by 20 indicates a proper talent.
The fact that he scored 8 of them in the first 3 months somehow makes it more and less impressive at the same time. If we discount those months, he's scoring at roughly 1 in 5 rate (4,75), which is not a great ratio for an attacking player. But at the same time he did have those months where he was magical — and even the fact that he plays so much at such a young age is a testament to his quality.
Don't think these goal stats have much meaning nor are they complete. To illustrate that, even Lukas Podolski was at 39 professional career goals before he turned 20.
I think when you are this young your output doesn't say much about your potential. It is okay if you are wasteful and have bad decision making at this age, the technical ability is more important. That's why you teach youth players technique, passing and train their physical prowess instead of tactics etc.
I think when you are this young your output doesn't say much about your potential. It is okay if you are wasteful and have bad decision making at this age, the technical ability is more important. That's why you teach youth players technique, passing and train their physical prowess instead of tactics etc.
And 29 of them came in the 2. Bundesliga. Not the best example.
That’s why I don’t write him off yet. When he plays central he squanders a lor of chance but he’s doing his part to get those chances. If he sharpens up he could become a very good player.
24. Also that's a weird argument considering the two players leading the list scored most of their goals in the Brazilian, Dutch and French leagues themselves.
The term 'overrated' is really a term overused here
Benzema with Lyon was very good but Kylian is on another planet in terms of impact.
Ok to say Neymar was more talented
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I think mbappe is a fantastic player but being better than guys like Henry or Messi at 18 doesn’t really say much as far career trajectory goes. Futbol is too unpredictable.
Whats so funny? His style is exactly like Krasic. He was a good player
Karsic
Krasic
He’s the best talent in the world, but how can he be top 5 forward in the world when he has never scored 20 league goals in a season? Also not like he is a Hazard who despite the same being said for him, is one of the best playmakers and facilitators in the world.
I don't really know why you'd compare him to Hazard, it's not even remotely the same type of player. Neymar is a playmaker this year, Mbappé's role is far more similar to CR7's. Now is he top5, I don't really know, instant truth are never a good thing, but unless he gets injured (we have to remember that the concussion he got last year put him upside down for at least a month), he'll score more than 20 league goals easily. In France, we even have consultants advocating for a Ballon d'or title this year, totally ridiculous if you ask me. We all need to let the kid take his time, he has the mind of a champion but he still needs to grow.