Kylian Mbappe | PSG
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He is far better on the left and upfront.
No doubt. The overshadowing is more in terms of what he achieved with his country at his age so more people are talking about him for now, him getting the #7 shirt at PSG so on a marketing front PSG had been pushing that for a while as well as getting more votes in the player awards but that is natural with what went on at the World Cup. They're all short term things and with regards to the marketing thing Neymar is back front and centre on PSG's twitter header.
On top of that, I'm pretty sure that Neymar appreciated the fact that the spotlights were on Mbappé a bit after his terrible world cup (from a popularity stanpoint).
His behaviour really changed. He barely dives anymore, doesn't whine when he takes a hit, seems to embrace his role as a playmaker etc. I don't know if it will last but it could be a huge evolution for him.
Neymar was better than him yesterday, and in general, doesn’t get the credit he deserves. Sensational player.
Ah fair enough. I'm generally not as interested in comparing glory/achievements as much as peformances and excellence. But I can understand your point. I don't think the WC helped Neymar. The world's view of Neymar took a big hit ar the tournament.
In terms of stats maybe but in terms of overall influence, Neymar is still their best and most important player.
I don't understand why RM didn't snap him up when they had the chance.
what is with the comments here seriously, the boy is 19 playing every week in a good league, plays CL football, plays with amazingly players, sure he was even born in Paris so might even been who he supported as a boy, got the world at his feet, apart from the Brazilian Ronaldo he is the best teenager I have seen, performed better at the WC then Messi or Ronaldo ever has, so the french league clearly ain't hindering him, he got plenty time to pick his next move which would guess would be Barca or Real.
What is wrong with the comments here?
The 'performed better in the WC than Messi or Ronaldo' comment is a bit of a pointless one. Had they played for a team like France they would have easily dwarfed his 2018 WC efforts.
Take it you cant read or something ? he has performed better at this WC then Messi or Ronaldo have ever performed at a WC, so no it wasn't pointless comment, Messi has played in Argentina teams that have been good over the years, Ronaldo played in the same Portugal team who won the Euro's last time so it aint like there teams have been poor. maybe try read what people say before you make comments.
They couldn't cough up the necessary dough and they couldn't guarantee him playing as a starter from the go. Kylian wanted to be a starter before anything else
I rated Mbappe higher as a talent than Neymar at the beginning of last season already. Almost a year ahead of the WC. So it's not just because of the WC.
Also Mbappe is french. PSG is french. And now he is world champion. So obviously he is more popular now. Well deserved too. He is PSGs biggest star.
Neymar is a great player, but always has been massively overhyped IMO. His marketing has been on point, even before he joined Barca.
Yep, I was at the stadium for their match vs Belgrade and it was clear that everything was going through him. Not only did he score but he also set up a high number of chances for Mbappe/Cavani. Mbappe was just finisher and waiting on Neymar to deliver the defense breaking pass.
Not to say Mbappe is bad, but Neymar is still above him in terms of overall play. The fact that Neymar is able to match Mbappe eventhough having the play all across the pitch, coming deep as well, is a statement in itself.
I so want him in the PL. Would be a joy.
Neymar is technically more gifted but Mbappé is athletically a superior player and I think mentally he can grow and grow. I also think he has an intelligence which again can grow leaps and bounds. Already his passing game is improving and his dribbling is becoming more refined.
Neymar in many ways has hit a plateau where his game hasn’t really grown but I think his celebrity had much to do with that. Mbappé has the potential to be the better player IMO but he needs to keep working hard as he’s not a supernatural talent in terms of technical skills but he has that dynamism which is incredible.
World is his oyster.
Neymar in many ways has hit a plateau where his game hasn’t really grown but I think his celebrity had much to do with that. Mbappé has the potential to be the better player IMO but he needs to keep working hard as he’s not a supernatural talent in terms of technical skills but he has that dynamism which is incredible.
World is his oyster.
Disagree. IMO it is comparable to Ronaldo/Messi in the Guardiola era, just still a level below that. Mbappe is incredible but Neymar is just more involved (dribbling, passing, one twos, ...) than Mbappe overall while still matching his output. Not to say that Mbappe doesn't create much himself by beating his defenders (just like CR7 back then btw) but he's just not as good at it as Neymar if you ask me.
A clear sign for that is that Tuchel plays him on RW and not on the left or even as a 10 btw. Currently Mbappe still relies too heavily on his speed to play through the center.
Can you not comprehend or something? They've never played for such great sides. Their teams have mostly been average or dysfunctional. Maybe try to comprehend before you make comments.
I'm envy of PSG that they have both Neymar and Mbappe. They have the best forward line in the world by far.
I think you need to read what I posted again
I said Neymar is still currently better than himI have no doubt that with time, Mbappe will develop to a great level other facets (passing and general playmaking) because you can already see the improvements months after months. It's good for him to all the burden isn't on his shoulders yet
That team at PSG should be walking the CL this season,IF Pogba was ever offered to PSG then Utd surely have to demand a straight swap with Mbappe,end of!
the France side was hardly great, not anywhere near the 98/00 france team or the spain squad which dominated. don't need to comprehend anything.
They really don't have the best frontline. Liverpools front line is better than theirs and suddenly my mouth turned sour
.They own that farmers league. All these stats wouldn't be as impressive if they played here. Even memphis depay is stat padding there. That sums up their league nicely.
They are forever stat padding in a league fool of substitute teachers. Lets not get ahead of ourselves here.
They really don't have the best frontline. Liverpools front line is better than theirs and suddenly my mouth turned sour
They own that farmers league. All these stats wouldn't be as impressive if they played here.
They are forever stat padding in a league fool of substitute teachers. Lets not get ahead of ourselves here.
No.
That’s a very long sentence. The whole sentence is probably even longer as the lack of a capital letter at the beginning suggests you began somewhere in the middle of the sentence in the first place.
They really don't have the best frontline. Liverpools front line is better than theirs and suddenly my mouth turned sour
They own that farmers league. All these stats wouldn't be as impressive if they played here. Even memphis depay is stat padding there. That sums up their league nicely.
They are forever stat padding in a league fool of substitute teachers. Lets not get ahead of ourselves here.
This is based on nothing more than 3-4 CL games. Neymar and Mbappe are arguably in the top 5 forwards in the world and Cavani is no worse than Firmino. Salah had an exceptional season but let's see whether he can repeat it. I'd take Mbappe over Salah any day of the week though.
I like mbape but I think he is very overrated. You saying he is a top 5 forward already proves that. Neymar is a top 5 forward so on that we can agree on that.
Mbappe is very young and is probably the best young prospect in the world right now based on statistics but in my personal opinion I think the most talented youngster is ousmane dembele.
In a few years he might be the best player in the world but we won’t know that till in a few years so let’s keep all the loving to a lower degree.
Let’s also not forget that the Ligue 1 is a farmers league. If Memphis depay can excel there it’s not very hard for any forward too. I’d be lying if I said it doesn’t take away from mbappe accomplishments but it does. Still is the best young forward in the world right now and is clear for all to see but the overrating has gotten out of hand.
Fair point but he's still performed in the Champions League and at the World Cup too.
From "La Gazetta"
Mbappe Vs Messi at 19 years 9 months and 19 days
Goals in Ligues : Mbappé (37), Messi (15)
Goals in National Cups : Mbappé (9), Messi (1)
Goals in CL : Mbappé (12), Messi (2)
Goals in National Teams : Mbappé (9), Messi (2)
Mbappe Vs Messi at 19 years 9 months and 19 days
Goals in Ligues : Mbappé (37), Messi (15)
Goals in National Cups : Mbappé (9), Messi (1)
Goals in CL : Mbappé (12), Messi (2)
Goals in National Teams : Mbappé (9), Messi (2)
Total: Mbappe 67
Messi 20
Good start...
Messi 20
Good start...
Comparing him to Messi is disingenuous though, given he didn’t play as a striker until Guardiola. Not saying that Mbappé isn’t a special player, but stats rarely tell the whole story
Can't imagine staying most of his career at PSG and French league despite the ridiculous fee they paid for him. At one point he'll surely want to challenge himself and far better league, Spain most probably.
I would swap him for De Gea if PSG is willing to do a deal. Phenomenal talent of a player. We can just buy Oblak or simply pay his release clause as David's replacement
I don't know about that.
France have one of the best keepers around. Some of the best defenders in the likes of Varane. One of the best midfields around in Pogba and Kante. Between Mbappe and Griezman, they have a pretty world class attack. Maybe it's not as good a squad as France 98 or Spain 2010, but it ain't far off.
PSG arent idiots.Mbappe doesn't play as a striker.
Mbappe will be the best player in not too long. He will be a lot more effective than what Neymar does once the big CL games arrive.
Neymar makes Ligue 1 defenses look like complete fools and he looks a level above everyone but he's a much easier player to stop given the right defensive aproach is used. He'll also be a much bigger defensive liability which isn't really a problem in Ligue 1.
I think you need to read what I posted again
I have no doubt that with time, Mbappe will develop to a great level other facets (passing and general playmaking) because you can already see the improvements months after months. It's good for him to all the burden isn't on his shoulders yet
Sorry, I meant to quote the poster under you