The only thing similar between him and Henry is their hairstyle.
Kylian Mbappe | PSG
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Yeah it is very disrespectful to arguably the best PL player ever.
At the same age? It's easy in Mbappe's favor.
Peak Henry? Not a chance.
Btw I also don't think Mbappe has wide range of attributes like Henry, Neymar, Messi.
Doesn't that make my point? There have been many great players that were note Messi and Ronaldo, yet people seem to think that getting to that level is an expectation. Neymar is a victim of this too.
That's just you being extremely ignorant though
It's delusional. Clearly never had the misfortune of getting terrorised by Henry there and then. I dreaded when United were playing him and Arsenal in their pomp.
See this is what passes me off about the Mbappe hype and why Ligue 1 is hiding him. People don't really watch him outside of a few UCL games twice or so a year. Currently, there is no reason to believe that Mbappe is as good as Van Nistelrooy was for us, yet people have chosen to use his age to crown him at a level he may never actually reach. Henry is the greatest player in Premier League history. Mbappe isn't even more talented either. Henry has the skillset of Pogba with the pace and control that Mbappe has, which means he literally could do anything in an attacking sense. Mbappe doesn't even have a quarter of the technique it took to be Henry. This is not to insult him, but saying that also puts him ahead of any other player that has played in the Premier League, despite him never even performing to a level that the Gerrard, Keane's and Lampards have. He hasn't even performed at the level that KDB has over the last 5 years. What this does show is how people use age to overrated players beyond their actual talent, by creating assumptions and turning them into facts despite a lack of evidence.
Yeah, he was so good I used to hate him (yeah usual hate is strong word all that).
I used to admire him at the same time though. You can't do anything but admire players like that. Mbappe has a long, long way to go before he gets to Henry's level. Bizarre to put him anywhere near his level if you seen both play.
Yeah, people just love to exaggerate for the sake of it.
I watch PSG quite regularly, and whilst I think he's talented, I'm also sceptical about the pedestal people have quickly put him on. He has a long way to go before he's 'heir apparent' to Ronaldo or Messi. Heck, I'd have Ronaldo from 2006/07 over any Mbappe that I've seen so far. So comparing him to Henry, both Ronaldos, Messy et al is just mental. Let see where he is when he joins Madrid and what he does in La Liga where level is higher and the pressure to win is through the roof.
To be honest with you, outside of Monaco and World Cup 2018, for me, Mbappe has flattered to deceive. I mean I expect a steady upward trajectory but it feels like he's stagnated. I genuinely don't see him being clearly better than he was during WC 2018. Could be wrong though but I've seen couple of others allude to this and I feel the same.
This maybe is the best thing that could have happened to him. I don’t think he’s comfortable on his pedestal, the guy has constantly outdone himself season after season and is clearly the best young player in the world, but this is the first major disappointment of his career on a global scale, where people are going to mock him and knowing the kind of mentality he has, I think he’s going to come out even better than if he had found success with France at the Euro. You tend to learn a lot more from your failures than successes anyways.
He didn't start this tournament in the right mentality by picking a fight with Giroud over absolutely nothing. Something was clearly wrong there.
Just keep your head down and do what you do best. There's no need to have an ego fight with your teammate days before the tournament starts.
Lesson learnt for the future.
Just keep your head down and do what you do best. There's no need to have an ego fight with your teammate days before the tournament starts.
Lesson learnt for the future.
He didn't pick a fight with Giroud. And his issues predate that anyway, his issue is that he is trying to play hero football while not really putting a shift and seldomly helping the team or scoring his chances. He is extremely talented but he needs to change his attitude on the field.
Nostalgia bias aside Mbappe is clear of Henry at the same age by far and already has better CL and major NT campaigns than Henry ever did
His league seasons these past 3 years are also on par with Henry's best, granted he is doing it in an easie league
His league seasons these past 3 years are also on par with Henry's best, granted he is doing it in an easie league
The quality of goals Henry scored, the variety of them, I'm yet to see Mbappe do that
So basically it's not on par
You are right and it took Henry years to be able to act like a top dog for France, he had to show his metal. Now I think that the player Henry became after 22/23 years old will be difficult to match for most strikers, including Mbappé.
on par my arse.
Henry has done it in top 1-2 league for over 10 season, Mbappe has only done it in top 5 league for 5 season, can't really compare. Henry wins by a huge margin.
As for CL, Henry has actually won it once, and in final twice, and has around 50 CL goals, so Henry is still better than Mbappe.
As for NT, Henry has won WC once and Euro once, both campaign he scored 3 goals each, and 51 goals in total. So he is better than Mbappe, who has won WC once but flopped badly in Euro with 0 goals.
Same age Mbappe is better though, he is only 22 so time will tell whether he could match Henry's career, or even better. But as for now, sorry, Henry is still leading by huge margin.
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He is French, so I wouldn't hold your breath on that one.
I hope that it's a poor joke.
Oh right. I heard he was so incensed at Giroud's comments about teammates not passing, he was about to hold his own press conference to declare his outrage
Regardless, I never saw him as the ego type. Always thought he had his head screwed on. Really wierd shift in attitude in the last year.
It’s not just the quality of the league, it’s the frankly outrageous gap between PSG, their budget and everyone else.
Oh right. I heard he was so incensed at Giroud's comments about teammates not passing, he was about to hold his own press conference to declare his outrage
Regardless, I never saw him as the ego type. Always thought he had his head screwed on. Really wierd shift in attitude in the last year.
Mbappé has always had a massive ego, it's not a shift and was already the case at Monaco. His head is screwed on, it just has the size of a zeppelin, it has good and bad sides, I doubt that his poor Euro will affect him negatively, it will most likely push him to be better.
I’m certain of it. Hopefully it also pushes him to make the decision to leave France in order to fulfill his huge potential.
He doesn't need to leave to fulfill his potential, there is no corrolation between playing in a particular league and improving or not. It's not as if he wasn't playing dozens of CL games every year.
He absolutely needs to play against better players every week in a tougher league.
He won't play against better players every week, depending on the league he may play 2 to 8 tougher games per year and even then that's debateable since teams aren't at 100% all the time even in the PL. And lets be real for one second a large amount of the supposed better players come from ligue 1.
You can’t surely believe playing at PsG in a far superior side with a far superior budget to the rest is the best way to improve as a player?
Playing and training alongside good players is one of the best way to improve as a player, players improve during the week on the training pitch that's where more than 90% of their work is done. If we follow your logic PL clubs should have an easier and better track record when it comes to developing players which is clearly not the case and if I go further playing for a lower table PL team as a top prospect should be even better because you have the budget disadvantage which is again not true.
And Mbappé is going to join one of the far superior team compared to the rest of the league wherever he goes. He isn't joining Everton or Valencia.
Name a top French player of the past 20 years that didn’t improve in Spain, Italy or England.
Henry, Vieira, Pires, Zidane and about a hundred more all massively improved their games outside of France. Kante, Benzema, every French player worth their salt has moved abroad and seriously improved their game.
I think Mbappe is superior to Henry at the same age, will become a better player and usually defend his CL and international records when others piss on him here. But Henry had a very good Euro 2000 and tore that great Italian defence - Cannavaro, Nesta, Maldini - a new hole in the final. And his 2005/06 Champions League campaign was outstanding, almost single handedly knocking out Real Madrid and Juventus to drag a past-its-best Arsenal side to the final.
How is that supposed to support your point? Did I suggest that he couldn't improve in Spain, Italy or England? I said that it's not because you move or stay that you will improve or not improve, whether you improve or not is more about your club and yourself than the league.
Vieira moved to Italy when it was supposed to be the best league in the world the most competitive, he didn't really improve, he joined a better environment for him at Arsenal and fulfilled his potential, that's about Arsenal and Wenger not the oppostion or the PL. Same applies to Henry.
Pirès left France at 26-27, he didn't fundamentally improve, he was an excellent player as he was showing at the Euro. He had better output at 29 years old for Arsenal when he was very comfortable in the PL but lets not pretend that he was in the developing phase of his career at Arsenal.
Your point would suggest that Bayern players won't improve as much as players in other leagues or clubs which again is blatantly wrong.
Has he always been this lazy off the ball?
Doesn't seem interested in pressing for club or country.
Doesn't seem interested in pressing for club or country.
Yes and that's the reason why France played a 4231/433 hybrid in 2018. His fullback his done, if Mbappé is supposed to help him. And when people compare Neymar and Mbappé workrate, it's night and day.
Worth pointing out that at Euro84 Platini scored 9 goals in 5 games and he wasn't even a centre forward.
Mbappe is overhyped and has done feck all really to justify the hype machine. Though he has plenty of time to improve.
I dont think he will reach Ronaldo/Messi level. Maybe a level below that or two.
Mbappe is overhyped and has done feck all really to justify the hype machine. Though he has plenty of time to improve.
I dont think he will reach Ronaldo/Messi level. Maybe a level below that or two.
It's worth pointing that Platini is an all time great and that no one in their right mind suggested that Mbappé was his equal.
People comparing a guy that already had a full career on top vs a 22y old kid with potential and saying the obvious conclusion that he is not at the same level that Henry was. Ffs
Of course he is not but his career pretty much just started and the gap between him and peak Henry may still be big but at the same age, Mbappe is the better player.
Of course he is not but his career pretty much just started and the gap between him and peak Henry may still be big but at the same age, Mbappe is the better player.
People comparing a guy that already had a full career on top vs a 22y old kid with potential and saying the obvious conclusion that he is not at the same level that Henry was. Ffs
Of course he is not but his career pretty much just started and the gap between him and peak Henry may still be big but at the same age, Mbappe is the better player.
But if you make a projection, matching Henry's prime will be difficult for most players. And I don't know if Mbappé is better than Henry in 2000, Henry was better at the Euro and 2000 is the start of his world domination among strikers.