Kylian Mbappe | Merci.

I don't really get why PSG are making such a big deal out of Mbappe leaving on a free.

It's a big issue from the POV of FFP but that's on them, not only because they could have sold him last year but also because since Mbappé notified them in May, they were in a position to find a deal way before the transfer window opens. Instead they decided to throw their toys around and focus on being upset.
 
'Found out' due to his level of work rate is what I said. Would he play for City on the left side of attack with his current attitude/work rate? no chance and you know it.

And your argument about Ronaldo is that he didn't score at a WC knockout stage? honestly who gives a single feck about that? Giroud is France' all time top goalscorer ffs is he better than Ronaldo as well? is that your argument?

Harry Maguire has scored in world cup knock outs mate that's a shit bar to try prove a point

I know mate. All those players did it at the highest level of international football while your idol proved that he's incapable of doing it.

But what does that have to do with Mbappé? Take your own advice. Try to come up with cogent argument.
 
I don’t agree that Mbappe needs to “prove himself” per se because having seen him play multiple times he’s clearly a fantastic player, but let’s not compare international football competitions with club football competitions, they are on completely different levels. It will be interesting to see Mbappe compete in a genuinely major league sooner rather than later because at the end of the day, we want to see the best players on the top stage and PSG will never be that.

Not everyone who does it domestically can do it internationally. Mbappé has done it in both the UCL and the world cup. It'll certainly be interesting to see Mbappe in a better league but his dominance hasn't just been in France. Its been in the biggest competitions on the planet.
 
I know mate. All those players did it at the highest level of international football while your idol proved that he's incapable of doing it.

But what does that have to do with Mbappé? Take your own advice. Try to come up with cogent argument.

Nice comeback
 
"Je n'ai jamais discuté d'une prolongation de contrat avec le PSG. Le conseil d'administration est informé depuis le 15 juillet 2022 de ma décision de ne pas prolonger au-delà de 2024".

It's straight from Mbappé"s statement to AFP.

Which explains why his letter is dated from the 12th of july 2022.

The only AFP statement I can find doesn't mention July 2022. And it's from June 2023.
 
Not everyone who does it domestically can do it internationally. Mbappé has done it in both the UCL and the world cup. It'll certainly be interesting to see Mbappe in a better league but his dominance hasn't just been in France. Its been in the biggest competitions on the planet.
Has it?

For a player who is so apparently “dominant”, how many La Liga / Premier Leagues (think everyone is in agreement they are the top two leagues in the world) has he won? How many Champions Leagues has he won? How many World Club Cups has he won (if we’re supposedly looking planet-wide tournaments)? How many Ballon d’Ors has he won?

I’m looking for the “dominance” and I don’t see it because it doesn’t exist. It may exist in the future, nobodies saying that it won’t, but as of now, it doesn’t
 
So EtH comes out saying we need a striker and we're working on it, and the next day Mbappe gets put on the market. Coincidence??
 
Not everyone who does it domestically can do it internationally. Mbappé has done it in both the UCL and the world cup. It'll certainly be interesting to see Mbappe in a better league but his dominance hasn't just been in France. Its been in the biggest competitions on the planet.

Why are people talking about World Cup like it's some crazy challenging task? The reason most players want to win it is because it's every fourth year and because of the pride it brings. Winning the biggest international tournament for your country will definitely mean more than winning CL with your team.

However, it is not close to Champions League in terms of quality. Club players play together, work and train together every single day and is of a much higher quality than the players who play in World Cup. Just take a look at Argentina's lineup against France. Like 4 or 5 players are so far behind in terms of quality, or nearing retirement.

Mbappé showing what he's done in the World Cup don't mean much when he's already proven it in the Champions League. Besides, he didn't really have a particularly good game against Argentina before his goal. Two of which were penalties, so it's not like he played an absurdly good game. Remember Pogba's performance against Croatia? We all know how he did for us.
 
On the flip side I wonder how much the Saudies can fk Mbappe over. Say he goes on a free or even forces move to Madrid. Will they never invite Real to play in Saudi? Will they never sign Mbappe when he's done at Real? They dont seem to be people that you should fk with when they have 600 billion dollars
 
Has it?

For a player who is so apparently “dominant”, how many La Liga / Premier Leagues (think everyone is in agreement they are the top two leagues in the world) has he won? How many Champions Leagues has he won? How many World Club Cups has he won (if we’re supposedly looking planet-wide tournaments)? How many Ballon d’Ors has he won?

I’m looking for the “dominance” and I don’t see it because it doesn’t exist. It may exist in the future, nobodies saying that it won’t, but as of now, it doesn’t

Nah its because you're too busy looking for Mbappé in leagues in which he doesn't play, mate :lol:
 
Sometimes, it feels as if sports writers aren't even concerned with their pieces looking even remotely plausible. As if anyone actually believes this is a possibility.
PSG can accept the offer but Mbappe doesn’t have to sign for them. The ball is firmly in Mbappe’s court and I can’t see any European team paying €200 mil for him because of FFP. It also doesn’t help that he probably only wants to join Real Madrid. So it’ll probably come down to whether they will accept €100 mil or let his contract run down.
 
PSG can accept the offer but Mbappe doesn’t have to sign for them. The ball is firmly in Mbappe’s court and I can’t see any European team paying €200 mil for him because of FFP. It also doesn’t help that he probably only wants to join Real Madrid. So it’ll probably come down to whether they will accept €100 mil or let his contract run down.

I agree, which is what makes this all the more ridiculous. Mbappé wouldn't sign a contract with AlAhli regardless of what they offer PSG. He's waiting to be a free agent so that he can sign for Madrid, as you stated.
 

You are right, I found the AFP release. Now July 2022 would be weeks after PSG struggled in the transfer window and "failed" to bring Zidane, it's not as if we are talking about a period of time that wouldn't make someone question his long term future. Also we are talking about an unilateral extension, there is no ground for bad faith or unfair contract terms because in 100% of cases PSG would have to operate with Mbappé contract ending in 2024 anything else would be gross incompetence.
 
Nah its because you're too busy looking for Mbappé in leagues in which he doesn't play, mate :lol:
Does he not compete in competitions he could win the Ballon d’Or then? Or the Champions League? And if he was so “dominant” in the Champions League he’d be playing the World Club Cup wouldn’t he?
 
I agree, which is what makes this all the more ridiculous. Mbappé wouldn't sign a contract with AlAhli regardless of what they offer PSG. He's waiting to be a free agent so that he can sign for Madrid, as you stated.

Things aren't set, anything can happen between now and a year, he could renew again for all we know.
 
I could actually see him going to Saudi for a year, to play alongside Ronaldo. He is a massive CR7 fan, and I reckon he would jump at the chance to play one season up top alongside him, then off to Madrid. Wouldn't be the most far fetched thing to happen in football in recent memory.
 
You are right, I found the AFP release. Now July 2022 would be weeks after PSG struggled in the transfer window and "failed" to bring Zidane, it's not as if we are talking about a period of time that wouldn't make someone question his long term future. Also we are talking about an unilateral extension, there is no ground for bad faith or unfair contract terms because in 100% of cases PSG would have to operate with Mbappé contract ending in 2024 anything else would be gross incompetence.

There could totally be ground for bad faith depending on how the negociations went and the intent displayed by the parties, especially if Mbappé implied that his extension would depend on the results of the transfer window and if he made requests regarding future recruitments only to say he wouldn't extend with 6 weeks left in the transfer window. Which actually seems to be the case at least according to PSG that wrote, in its letter to Mbappé :
"Il est vrai que nous avions discuté aussi d’un recrutement très ambitieux que nous n’avons pu que partiellement réaliser compte tenu des conditions du mercato et des contraintes réglementaires françaises et européennes, peut-on également lire. Des conditions complètement hors de notre contrôle, mais en dépit desquelles nous avons essayé de répondre à vos demandes contrairement à ce que nous aurions fait pour tout autre joueur sans être fatal au club."

Now is it a guaranteed winning case? Obviously not but I'd litigate it. Can we rule out gross incompetence? No, "competence" isn't really something PSG has shown in the last couple of years.
 
Does he not compete in competitions he could win the Ballon d’Or then? Or the Champions League? And if he was so “dominant” in the Champions League he’d be playing the World Club Cup wouldn’t he?

No because that's based on team performances, not individual performances. Otherwise Mbappé has been one of the most dominant player in the Champions League, he is also currently 19th in assists with 22 which is above Lewandowski or Rooney.

https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsl...-the-champions-league-records-stats-who-he-h/
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/history/rankings/players/assists/
 
I honestly have doubts whether this transfer would even work out. Can’t help but feel that it will be a disappointment. Assuming he comes to Madrid.
 
Why are people talking about World Cup like it's some crazy challenging task? The reason most players want to win it is because it's every fourth year and because of the pride it brings. Winning the biggest international tournament for your country will definitely mean more than winning CL with your team.

However, it is not close to Champions League in terms of quality. Club players play together, work and train together every single day and is of a much higher quality than the players who play in World Cup. Just take a look at Argentina's lineup against France. Like 4 or 5 players are so far behind in terms of quality, or nearing retirement.

Mbappé showing what he's done in the World Cup don't mean much when he's already proven it in the Champions League. Besides, he didn't really have a particularly good game against Argentina before his goal. Two of which were penalties, so it's not like he played an absurdly good game. Remember Pogba's performance against Croatia? We all know how he did for us.

Mbappe almost single handedly brought France back...well he sorta did when you consider Argentina won on penalties. He won one of those penalties too and scored a great goal to in the process. He has done it over and over again already in his young career for France. Messi's status was also raised even further because he led Argentina to victory....World Cups matter greatly. We do not remember a whole lot of Pele's or even Maradona's club goals but we sure as heck remember their World Cup goals by comparison especially the ones that got their countries through. This is why Messi is the greatest of his generation and Ronaldo is not.
 
Does he not compete in competitions he could win the Ballon d’Or then? Or the Champions League? And if he was so “dominant” in the Champions League he’d be playing the World Club Cup wouldn’t he?

Because you don't win Champions Leagues singlehandedly. Does this really need to be explained to you?
 
He's only going to Madrid, so it doesn't matter what other clubs from England or wherever are interested. Madrid would happily pay a 100m for him, but they are not because they are getting him on a free next summer. If he decides to leave this summer, Madrid will pay.
 
Things aren't set, anything can happen between now and a year, he could renew again for all we know.

Do you think so? He's never given interviews in which he's lashed out at PSG before. It feels as though he's finally had enough and wants to be winning the biggest individual prizes, if you listen to his interviews. Haaland is getting plaudits left and right while Mbappé reckons that his level has been high but that playing for PSG (the French league in general) hasn't helped his case.

I think there's a difference this time and he's really itching to leave. But you may well be right.
 
Yeah they stretched their wage structure for Salah, they’re definitely going to at least double it again for Mbappe.

This is one of those rumours deluded Liverpool fans have somehow manifested into a credible rumour when it’s far far from it.
Liverpool fans making up shit? Well I never
 
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Do you think so? He's never given interviews in which he's lashed out at PSG before. It feels as though he's finally had enough and wants to be winning the biggest individual prizes, if you listen to his interviews. Haaland is getting plaudits left and right while Mbappé reckons that his level has been high but that playing for PSG (the French league in general) hasn't helped his case.

I think there's a difference this time and he's really itching to leave. But you may well be right.

Yeah, and i've heard this line before, so many times over the years, so i dont think so.

Very likely this is just a game to fleece PSG to the max, again.
 
There could totally be ground for bad faith depending on how the negociations went and the intent of the parties, especially if Mbappé implied that his extension would depend on the results of the transfer window and if he made requests regarding future recruitments only to say he wouldn't extend with 6 weeks left in the transfer window. Which actually seems to be the case at least according to PSG that wrote, in its letter to Mbappé :
"Il est vrai que nous avions discuté aussi d’un recrutement très ambitieux que nous n’avons pu que partiellement réaliser compte tenu des conditions du mercato et des contraintes réglementaires françaises et européennes, peut-on également lire. Des conditions complètement hors de notre contrôle, mais en dépit desquelles nous avons essayé de répondre à vos demandes contrairement à ce que nous aurions fait pour tout autre joueur sans être fatal au club."

Now is it a guaranteed winning case? Obviously not but I'd litigate it. Can we rule out gross incompetence? No, "competence" isn't really something PSG has shown in the last couple of years.

There is no case. Mbappé could simply state that he regretted the extension after a few weeks and in the spirit of french and Europeans laws regarding professional freedom no judge would grant you a thing.
 


Qatar being embarrassed because they thought they could own anyone with money.

*chef's kiss*
 
'Yeah, and i've heard this line before, so many times over the years, so i dont think so.

Very likely this is just a game to fleece PSG to the max, again.

I don't believe that. While it's not totally impossible (while very very unlikely) he finally extends for 1 year, he's 100% gone in 2024 in my opinion.
 
I don't believe that. While it's not totally impossible (while very very unlikely) he finally extends for 1 year, he's 100% gone in 2024 in my opinion.

I don't think he renews now, but if he runs down his final year, PSG will be desperate to renew him again, which means another absurd contract offer, also, Macron has said he will try to convince him to stay, again.

If he isn't sold, i think the chance is high he renews next spring/summer.
 
What are Mbappe's options?

Stay on PSG bench ahead of Euros .
Chelsea with no European football
Saudi

Man, that's so uninspiring.

Guess he will jump at the chance of joining us or any CL team provided he can join Real next year for a reasonable fee.

Say offer 100m this year and put a release clause for same money next year.