Kylian Mbappe | Merci.

JB7 said:
:lol: You’re objectively wrong, Mbappe as of now is nowhere near the levels Ronaldo reached. I’m not engaging this anymore it’s just comical that you’ve made one of the most ridiculous posts I’ve ever seen on this forum, which in itself is impressive, and are doubling down on it.
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Except this this isn't objective. Its your opinion against his and lots would agree with him. You can keep throwing out ad lapidums and emoji, though.
 
Oly Francis said:
Mbappé negociated a 2+1 contract and reportedly told PSG he would never leave with a free transfer. According to reports backed by the content of PSG's letter to Mbappé, his choice about the extra year was supposed to depend on the additions to the team during the transfer window. He even took pictures with a "2025" jersey after his extension. But then he sent a letter saying that he wouldn't trigger his option 2 months after extending and 1 month and a half before the end of the 2022 summer transfer window, showing that what was mentionned during the negociations by Mbappé's side was just BS.

He basically claimed publicly it was all about the team, the club, perfomances etc. when he in fact negociated his contract in bad faith and planned his exit all along.

Now, it's obvious that PSG had it coming because they allowed themselves to be in this position. But Mbappé's behaviour was totally dishonest and far from the PR image he's trying to build for the last decade.
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Fair enough. And that's the way I read it as well. I can imagine his frustration at not being in a position to compete for balon d'ors yet and it feels as if he (rightly or wrongly) seed the current PSG team as one that isn't helping him achieve his goals, but the way he went about it might bother PSG.

At the moment, everyone knows his next destination next season and it's a matter of getting a fee for someone who would leave on a free next season rather than getting one additional season of a malcontent individual who's openly criticising the club publicly.
 
mshnsh said:
Lies

I have. Infact I have followed his career since his debut for United.
No doubting his goalscoring ability but Mbappe has more UCL goals and world cup goals than Ronaldo at 24. He may not achieve as much or become the greater footballer but is atleast as good a footballer everything considered.

I have always maintained that Ronaldo lacked that "on the ball genius" that players like Messi, R9, Ronaldinho possessed. His goalscoring and longevity has elevated his status a great deal.
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Why is it lies? he was scoring 50-60 a season in Spain against arguably the best club side ever in Barce and a very good Ath Madrid side. La Liga was a very strong league he would without doubt be doing unthinkable numbers in France.

In all honesty Mbappe must be one of the laziest attacking players in Europe and half the clubs in the PL would love playing against him
 
Ladron de redcafe said:
Except this this isn't objective. Its your opinion against his and lots would agree with him. You can keep throwing out ad lapidums and emoji, though.
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Put it to a poll if you think “lots would agree with him”. It’s a frankly ridiculous opinion.
 
JB7 said:
Put it to a poll if you think “lots would agree with him”. It’s a frankly ridiculous opinion.
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I don't need to create a poll any more than you do. It's an Mbappe thread. You're free to think it's ridiculous if it helps you cope. I think he's spot on.
 
Ladron de redcafe said:
I don't need to create a poll any more than you do. It's an Mbappe thread. You're free to think it's ridiculous if it helps you cope. I think he's spot on.
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You think this current Mbappe is a better football than Ronaldo was at any stage of his career. You people are comical.
 
Castia said:
Why is it lies? he was scoring 50-60 a season in Spain against arguably the best club side ever in Barce and a very good Ath Madrid side. La Liga was a very strong league he would without doubt be doing unthinkable numbers in France.

In all honesty Mbappe must be one of the laziest attacking players in Europe and will be found out in a proper league half the clubs in the PL would love playing against him
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The guy literally scored a hatrick in a world cup final :lol: Tell us more about how he'll be found out in a tough league.
 
Now this is a Glazer transfer if ever I saw one. For the price being quoted we should at least be throwing our hat in the ring. Offer him more than whatever Madrid are offering and see if he flinches.
 
evil_geko said:
Such a fecking primadonna, good on PSG getting rid, wouldn't want him anywhere near United.
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Tbf, they gave him a stupid 3 year deal, on stupid wages and basically all this power around the club. Can’t blame him for sitting on his contract and not wanting to extend. He’s probably guaranteed a mammoth signing on fee at madrid when he’s a free agent.
 
JB7 said:
You think this current Mbappe is a better football than Ronaldo was at any stage of his career. You people are comical.
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Buddy, it's an Mbappe thread, for the last time. If you think any version of Ronaldo was better than this Mbappé, that's your opinion. What are you melting down about?
 
mshnsh said:
Lies

I have. Infact I have followed his career since his debut for United.
No doubting his goalscoring ability but Mbappe has more UCL goals and world cup goals than Ronaldo at 24. He may not achieve as much or become the greater footballer but is atleast as good a footballer everything considered.

I have always maintained that Ronaldo lacked that "on the ball genius" that players like Messi, R9, Ronaldinho possessed. His goalscoring and longevity has elevated his status a great deal.
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We've been through this before, Ronaldo was a winger then, cant compare goals to a striker. Also It was his on the ball genius that made Madrid buy him not his goal scoring abilities.
 
PSG gave him the contract and he will accept it. They desperately wanted to keep him for longer before the WC and got him to sign again on crazy money. Madrid had the transfer fee money waiting for PSG but they cared more about him re-signing and gave a ton of money to him to extend. PSG get another year which they paid greatly for, end of story. PSG need to get with reality that they don't own him and he will see out his contract that PSG offered and agreed to. PSG agreed to the bonus and incentive for him to stay longer, they just can't handle him not extending again.
 
redshaw said:
PSG gave him the contract and he will accept it. They desperately wanted to keep him for longer before the WC and got him to sign again on crazy money. Madrid had the transfer fee money waiting for PSG but they cared more about him re-signing and gave a ton of money to him to extend. PSG get another year which they paid greatly for, end of story. PSG need to get with reality that they don't own him and he will see out his contract that PSG offered and agreed to. PSG agreed to the bonus and that's incentive for him to stay longer, they just can't handle him not extending again.
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It's not a convenient or desired end for either but I think you nailed it there and that's why he'll probably stay.
 
Ladron de redcafe said:
Buddy, it's an Mbappe thread, for the last time. If you think any version of Ronaldo was better than this Mbappé, that's your opinion. What are you melting down about?
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Who’s melting down? It is Mbappe thread, what’s happening with him at the moment is interesting so his thread is worth a read obviously but to come in and see people claiming he’s better than Ronaldo was is ridiculous enough to comment on. If you want to believe that, that’s up to you, it’s completely incorrect obviously, but it’s up to you.
 
JPRouve said:
He didn't had a veto and the distinction is important. He was the only one that could extend the contract, he didn't veto an extension, he just didn't trigger the extension and he had to notify PSG before July 31st which he did.
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That even explains it more. Mbappe has done nothing wrong.
 
JB7 said:
Who’s melting down? It is Mbappe thread, what’s happening with him at the moment is interesting so his thread is worth a read obviously but to come in and see people claiming he’s better than Ronaldo was is ridiculous enough to comment on. If you want to believe that, that’s up to you, it’s completely incorrect obviously, but it’s up to you.
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Its a subjective opinion. Yours is as "incorrect" as his, mate. Not sure why you're having a hard time with that. You're free to believe what you believe, as I said before.

Now, about that Mbappé guy....
 
I just hope he doesn’t come to City as then we can switch off the Premier League for a couple of years.

Looks like he is a Real bound and will sit out his contract until next year and move to them for free. Or he moves to recent Al Hilal rumours, becomes the most paid footballer ever on this planet and destroys his career and legacy. Mbappe’s camp approach in terms of agency etc. is not really professional and a mess.
 
redshaw said:
PSG gave him the contract and he will accept it. They desperately wanted to keep him for longer before the WC and got him to sign again on crazy money. Madrid had the transfer fee money waiting for PSG but they cared more about him re-signing and gave a ton of money to him to extend. PSG get another year which they paid greatly for, end of story. PSG need to get with reality that they don't own him and he will see out his contract that PSG offered and agreed to. PSG agreed to the bonus and incentive for him to stay longer, they just can't handle him not extending again.
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I don't think PSG thought Mbappé would extend once more outside of his extra optionnal year. Eveybody knows he'd leave at one point and the way his extension was structured seems to show the whole plan was either having him leave this summer or trigger the extra year so he leaves next summer, for a fee in both situation. But Mbappé decided not to trigger this extra year to leave for free next summer.

PSG needs to realize they don't own MBappé it's true, but Mbappé needs to realize PSG is allowed to have him seat in the stands all season if they want to.
 
Ladron de redcafe said:
The guy literally scored a hatrick in a world cup final :lol: Tell us more about how he'll be found out in a tough league.
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Oh shit no chance he can fail in a top league then?? that one game means he could never fail in a top league!

Zero work rate and no desire to work for the team what so ever wouldn't fly in the PL but ok.
 
Oly Francis said:
I don't think PSG thought Mbappé would extend once more outside of his extra optionnal year. Eveybody knows he'd leave at one point and the way his extension was structured seems to show the whole plan was either having him leave this summer or trigger the extra year so he leaves next summer, for a fee in both situation. But Mbappé decided not to trigger this extra year to leave for free next summer.

PSG needs to realize they don't own MBappé it's true, but Mbappé needs to realize PSG is allowed to have him seat in the stands all season if they want to.
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but that is not reasonable. What example for the next players who think about playing in Paris? .
I would understand that he is not a headliner, or that the coach makes the team taking into account that that player won't be next year but not that type of punishment
 
I mean, he nearly left for free last year. I would think when he signed the 2 + 1 they didn't expect he would trigger the extra year. Maybe it was all a deal to have him as a PSG player for the Qatar World Cup and this is like a bit of theatrics from both sides.
 
Castia said:
Oh shit no chance he can fail in a top league then?? that one game means he could never fail in a top league!
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Yes mate. Kylian Mbappé has done nothing besides "one game" and would be found out in a top league. Great stuff, this.
 
In my opinion Mbappé is a egoistic tool but people blaming him for the contract he and PSG signed are confusing to me.

He is honoring the contract and PSG excluding him from a pre-season tour and threatening to put him in the stands is bullying. Makes the club look bad and unattractive for players.
 
Ladron de redcafe said:
Yes mate. Kylian Mbappé has done nothing besides "one game" and would be found out in a top league. Great stuff, this.
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Mate I couldn't give a feck how many goals he scores against Clairmont Foot and Stade Brestois whilst playing for a a team with 20 times the budget of the entire league. He's a good player but nothing you say will take away the fact that he needs to prove himself in a better league.

He will no doubt end up at Madrid in 12 months lets see if he can replicate C.Ronaldo. I bet he doesn't because he's not at that level.
 
Castia said:
Mate I couldn't give a feck how many goals he scores against Clairmont Foot and Stade Brestois whilst playing for a a team with 20 times the budget of the entire league. He's a good player but nothing you say will take away the fact that he needs to prove himself in a better league

He will no doubt end up at Madrid in 12 months lets see if he can replicate C.Ronaldo. I bet he doesn't because he's not at that level.
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He doesn't "need" to prove himself because you think he'd be found out in a "proper league", whatever that is supposed to mean.

Not sure what the irrelevant second paragraph is about. Mbappe has excelled at 2 world cups. The guy you mentioned doesn't have a single world cup KO stage goal or assist. I guess he isn't at "that level". But as you know, this is an Mbappé thread. Let's discuss him.
 
Oly Francis said:
I don't think PSG thought Mbappé would extend once more outside of his extra optionnal year. Eveybody knows he'd leave at one point and the way his extension was structured seems to show the whole plan was either having him leave this summer or trigger the extra year so he leaves next summer, for a fee in both situation. But Mbappé decided not to trigger this extra year to leave for free next summer.

PSG needs to realize they don't own MBappé it's true, but Mbappé needs to realize PSG is allowed to have him seat in the stands all season if they want to.
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If PSG are fine with him leaving then they should be happy he is staying another year that they offered terms for. The option was an option. PSG are getting his services which they paid and pressured him heavily for. To keep him out of the team now in pre season is very petty because he won't extend and is simply playing for the contract PSG gave him, they put in all the incentives to stay longer before the WC and he is doing that while not taking up the option.

PSG need to get with reality. Enjoy the last year together, they could've got a fee a couple of years ago but got him to resign for a little while longer. I doubt the fee concern is anything but bluster, they're incredulous he's not resigning hence the punishment, he's playing the contract PSG were desperate for him to sign two years ago.
 
Ladron de redcafe said:
He doesn't "need" to prove himself because you think he'd be found out in a "proper league", whatever that is supposed to mean.

Not sure what the irrelevant second paragraph is about. Mbappe has excelled at 2 world cups. The guy you mentioned doesn't have a single world cup KO stage goal or assist. I guess he isn't at "that level". But as you know, this is an Mbappé thread. Let's discuss him.
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I don’t agree that Mbappe needs to “prove himself” per se because having seen him play multiple times he’s clearly a fantastic player, but let’s not compare international football competitions with club football competitions, they are on completely different levels. It will be interesting to see Mbappe compete in a genuinely major league sooner rather than later because at the end of the day, we want to see the best players on the top stage and PSG will never be that.
 
carvajal said:
but that is not reasonable. What example for the next players who think about playing in Paris? .
I would understand that he is not a headliner, or that the coach makes the team taking into account that that player won't be next year but not that type of punishment
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Nothing is reasonable in this whole mess. Mbappé taking the risk of sitting on the bench the whole season just because he wants to leave on a free transfer isn't reasonable as well if you take into account the whole "I'm only interested in performances and want to be the very best" PR image he's been building for years. Loosing a whole season in his prime with a Euro and olympic games at the end of the season would be a distaster for his image and for his sponsors.

Acrobat7 said:
In my opinion Mbappé is a egoistic tool but people blaming him for the contract he and PSG signed are confusing to me.

He is honoring the contract and PSG excluding him from a pre-season tour and threatening to put him in the stands is bullying. Makes the club look bad and unattractive for players.
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There's a real legal debate that we could be having about him "honoring the contract". Contracts have to be negociated and executed in good faith, it's a cardinal rule in french contract law (and in most countries). There's a huge question mark about his good faith when he negociates a 2+1 contract only to notify PSG that he won't extend 2 months after this new contract was signed, more than a year before the deadline for the option and 1 month and a half before the 2022 transfer window was even over.
 
Ladron de redcafe said:
He doesn't "need" to prove himself because you think he'd be found out in a "proper league", whatever that is supposed to mean.

Not sure what the irrelevant second paragraph is about. Mbappe has excelled at 2 world cups. The guy you mentioned doesn't have a single world cup KO stage goal or assist. I guess he isn't at "that level". But as you know, this is an Mbappé thread. Let's discuss him.
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'Found out' due to his level of work rate is what I said. Would he play for City on the left side of attack with his current attitude/work rate? no chance and you know it.

And your argument about Ronaldo is that he didn't score at a WC knockout stage? honestly who gives a single feck about that? Giroud is France' all time top goalscorer ffs is he better than Ronaldo as well? is that your argument?

Harry Maguire has scored in world cup knock outs mate that's a shit bar to try prove a point
 
redshaw said:
If PSG are fine with him leaving then they should be happy he is staying another year that they offered terms for. The option was an option. PSG are getting his services which they paid and pressured him heavily for. To keep him out of the team now in pre season is very petty because he won't extend and is simply playing for the contract PSG gave him, they put in all the incentives to stay longer before the WC and he is doing that while not taking up the option.

PSG need to get with reality. Enjoy the last year together, they could've got a fee a couple of years ago but got him to resign for a little while longer. I doubt the fee concern is anything but bluster, they're incredulous he's not resigning hence the punishment, he's playing the contract PSG were desperate for him to sign two years ago.
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They could even get a fee now. PSG are just acting like idiots, instead of talking to the player behind the scene and finding an agreement for a transfer, they decided to leak the fact that Mbappé notified them about the clause, they then used every single mouthpiece they have to talk shit about Mbappé which if people remember is what they did to Rabiot in 2018, they did to Cavani and Mbappé last season, all of that is in line with last year's report about PSG smearing tactics that were published in Football Leaks by Mediapart.

Mbappé should accept to leave this summer but I wouldn't be against the idea of him leaving PSG for nothing next year.
 
Oly Francis said:
Nothing is reasonable in this whole mess. Mbappé taking the risk of sitting on the bench the whole season just because he wants to leave on a free transfer isn't reasonable as well if you take into account the whole "I'm only interested in performances and want to be the very best" PR image he's been building for years. Loosing a whole season in his prime with a Euro and olympic games at the end of the season would be a distaster for his image and for his sponsors.



There's a real legal debate that we could be having about him "honoring the contract". Contracts have to be negociated and executed in good faith, it's a cardinal rule in french contract law (and in most countries). There's a huge question mark about his good faith when he negociates a 2+1 contract only to notify PSG that he won't extend 2 months after this new contract was signed, more than a year before the deadline for the option and 1 month and a half before the 2022 transfer window was even over.
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He notified PSG in May, not two months after he signed the contract.
 
I don't really get why PSG are making such a big deal out of Mbappe leaving on a free.

The general consensus last year was that PSG had managed to keep the player for a few years, and he could make good money at PSG, maybe win the CL or something, and then walk away on a free.
 
Mbappe has 40CL goals to his name already I believe and 40 goals for France. I think he has already proven tons. He needs to move imo so that we can see him perform in a top league, but I would be surprised he doesn't strive wherever he goes. It is likely Real Madrid although I would be hesitant if I was him to go to La Liga seeing how they treat talented black players over there.
 
JPRouve said:
He notified PSG in May, not two months after he signed the contract.
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"Je n'ai jamais discuté d'une prolongation de contrat avec le PSG. Le conseil d'administration est informé depuis le 15 juillet 2022 de ma décision de ne pas prolonger au-delà de 2024".

It's straight from Mbappé"s statement to AFP.

Which explains why his letter is dated from the 12th of july 2022.
 
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