Might not be you, someone argued that he could potentially overtake Messi as the GOAT.
Kylian Mbappé | Real Madrid watch
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Fair enough. I thought you were referring to me.
He is nowhere near Messi's level of talent.
Even at Messi's final PSG season, I don't think Mbappe was that much better than him(if at all).
He could overtake Hazard as a flop if he keeps going like this.
I severely doubt that happens.
If Mbappe's killing at season's end, you better apologize to him
By that, Ronaldo was close to Messi's level (not level of talent, don't want to go there again) for over a decade. Can't see Mbappe coming close, however many goals or CL's he might score/win.
I think we really underappreciated the magic Ronaldo showed at Real Madrid, well I did for years.
20 years ago Henry is still the best PL player we have ever seen. Messi and Ronaldo were tiers even beyond that, it's absurd.
The problem with Mbappe for me is that he is a very good player, however he is a player that has relied (in some part, not entirely) on pace. Pace is also one of the first things to go and can dissappear earlier than expected and suddenly. I am not saying this is an issue now, but it got rear it's head at any point. However, once that starts to go for him, I am not sure he is technical enough to be 'great'.
For me, he'll be 'OK' at Madrid. Whether that satisfies the Madrid fan based however is another matter.
For me, he'll be 'OK' at Madrid. Whether that satisfies the Madrid fan based however is another matter.
After an era of having the best midfield they forget why they were so good...Not Carlo's fault that Kroos retired and Modric is 60 yet RM didn't sign the necessary replacements. They need an Enzo or Joao Neves (or Vitinha, Ruiz....PSG hoovering up technical passers as if they'll turn into prime Barca
Mbappe needs to start scoring to justify him starting over Endrick.
Did they attack Vs City? I just remember them parking that giant bus.
I would test Real with a 120m bid next summer if we can shift Rashford, to compete with Haaland (who let’s face it makes the difference at City) you are going to need someone exceptional like Liverpool had peak Salah for a few years and why Arsenal can’t win the league.
Not going to happen. When taking his sign on fee into account, he’s on crazy wages.
They weren't great at all, but that set-up is probably the most optimal for Vini/Mbappe to work as a duo.
City were winning leagues before Haaland.
Kylly's back!
Madrid fans already lowkey turning on Mbappe for affecting the team's overall play
What's happening?
They’re not winning every single game 5-0….
Oh to be spoiled
Well Bayern are! And they don't have Mbappé!
Yeah but you have to put up with a ciarlatano calvo.
What you talking about Carlo has beautifully full head of air. 's why all those other guys keep losing to him. I just revealed the secret of Madrid Inevitability
He is lucky Vini doesn’t care about stat padding or his ego. He could easily be named a flop but thanks to all the penalties he has like 6 goals in 8 games or something.
His overall play is poor and he doesn’t have any chemistry with the team. Looks out of place and so far a waste of money. Doesn’t look good.
His overall play is poor and he doesn’t have any chemistry with the team. Looks out of place and so far a waste of money. Doesn’t look good.
Another penalty? 
It's madness to sideline a serial winner and big game performer in lieu of an outsider, any outsider. One is a proven commodity that has literally won you the biggest prizes and always stands up to be counted, the other is a gamble until proven otherwise.
This reminds me of when we brought in Berbatov and overcooked the formula trying to make it all work with what was already the best attacking line in England, if not the world. Sure, he'll have his moments, but overall, does the team even need him?
Even Carlo might not be able to make this one work, and that's saying something.
Kylian Hmm..penalty.
I think he'll figure it out. It'll be a strange, unorthodox but genius solution in full effect during crunch time (CL KO stage).
At best I think maybe switch back to the 442 with Camavinga in the Kroos role. Not sure if it will work but best he can do really.
But even then: his general play is poor. Bad passing, mediocre shooting, no dribbling. Like what are we paying for here?
Here for it, but as was discussed before Mbappe even got there, all his favourite actions occupy Vinicius' space and running lines, so what happens to Vincius' game then? Even with Mbappe trying to be an orthodox striker, he's still just going to default encroach into his favourite area of the pitch.
He creates more problems than he solves, so it will be one of Ancelotti's greatest feats if he can make it work and benefit each player.
Could get ugly down the road, probably not.
It will take time for a player who's been the system of his club and national team for several years, to be an integral of such a unique club.
He's playing badly individually. It's not a team issue, he's just failing at fairly basic stuff. He'll get back to his normal level eventually and in a game like yesterday's, finish with at least a hat trick and everything will be fine. Once we get Camavinga back, the only hurdle to clear will be defensive organization. Don't expect effort to be an issue
Things are going well for him these days. After being out of the French squad because of "injury", he was then started in the following Real game, and during the international break, his "clan" leaked that he was working hard on his fitness and working to get back to his best... and 1h later it was leaked he'd been in Stockholm out clubbing for 2 nights (in a club that sounds like it was an orgy or something like that)
(in a club that sounds like it was an orgy or something like that)Things are going well for him these days. After being out of the French squad because of "injury", he was then started in the following Real game, and during the international break, his "clan" leaked that he was working hard on his fitness and working to get back to his best... and 1h later it was leaked he'd been in Stockholm out clubbing for 2 nights
Saw a story that came out (not sure if it’s true) where he said he only wants to play the important games for France. Not exactly what you want to hear from your captain. Not sure if this is to do with the “increased workload” we hear complaints about these days, or if he just can’t be bothered. If it’s the former then fair enough, if it’s the latter then that’s not a good look. Although you would also say if he only wants to play the important games then that’s unfair to the players who play the other games if he just expects to be airlifted into the team as and when he chooses.
I honestly can't blame him if he wants to do that.
Real Madrid players with ACL injuries in the past seasons:
Militao
Alaba
Carvajal
Courtois
Palacios
Martinez
Camavinga almost tore his ACL but it was torn knee ligaments instead.
When you are as good as Mbappe, its not really unfair to be airlifted into the team, its the benefits of being a WC player.
If you ask the French team, would you rather play nations league, friendlies, qualifiers without Mbappe and play a tournament without him or just play tournaments with him, they will tell you they want him in the team.
He is a game changer and every player would want a game changer in a tournament. I dont see a big issue in this, happens in cricket all the time.
Alot of the top players get rested for games and come the big games, all the big hitters are back.
While you can understand the rationale behind it, if most players started acting like that, it'd be a total mess. It's also pretty insane coming from a captain - I don't remember any similar cases such as those ones?
Also, as much as players want to win, for those who go play these shitty games in the middle of the season so that he can be airlifted into the team at the opportune moment, knowing that while his clan are reporting him working on his fitness, he's off in the "ping pong room" of an exclusive club with "mainly women", it's not a great look.
Also, as much as players want to win, for those who go play these shitty games in the middle of the season so that he can be airlifted into the team at the opportune moment, knowing that while his clan are reporting him working on his fitness, he's off in the "ping pong room" of an exclusive club with "mainly women", it's not a great look.
and can you rank his performance levels for each of those? Well, as long as Kyky has his priorities straight, it's all good!
They'd probably end up offloading both of their Brazilian stars while getting in more accommodating team mates for mbappe could see it work then bit until he aforementioned They're to imbalanced to be of any major caliber.