Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy

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This seems like a crazy, but kind of funny situation just now to many I guess, but this could genuinely be the start of a downward spiral for football in general if this is allowed to happen, where a rich guy can come along and just pay insane amounts for the best players with money that the club hasn't earned or even really had in their possession. It's going to become a farce once Mansour starts trying to 'compete. in the same way. There's no real competition to be had this way. It's like entering a snooker contest and buying all of the balls so that you can just place them in the holes and 'win'. There's nothing to like about this.....unless they were to somehow fail to win their domestic league I guess.
 
This seems like a crazy, but kind of funny situation just now to many I guess, but this could genuinely be the start of a downward spiral for football in general if this is allowed to happen, where a rich guy can come along and just pay insane amounts for the best players with money that the club hasn't earned or even really had in their possession. It's going to become a farce once Mansour starts trying to 'compete. in the same way. There's no real competition to be had this way. It's like entering a snooker contest and buying all of the balls so that you can just place them in the holes and 'win'. There's nothing to like about this.....unless they were to somehow fail to win their domestic league I guess.

Basically this, it needs to be stopped somehow. What the feck is the point of competition if the World's best players are all at the same one or two clubs?
 
This is like discovering the edit function on the old champ mans and giving your team unlimited money. It's not fair at all but I don't care that much, so let them spend it. I hope after they get mbappe they get dembele and coutinho.
 
Basically this, it needs to be stopped somehow. What the feck is the point of competition if the World's best players are all at the same one or two clubs?

Why do you care about ligue 1 anyway.
 
Why do you care about ligue 1 anyway.

I don't, I care about the sport. If there was some sort of different competition to the CL, I wouldn't care what they spent. Since there isn't, these are clubs moving forward we are going to have to compete with and in this current climate, we simply can't. I want to see different teams competing for honours, not the same club dominating every year because they have the World's best players, buying more and more. It's boring and it's shite like this that can make the sport tedious for fans moving forward.

I wouldn't even want to see United winning every year, it'd get boring after a while. There's no entertainment without rivalry and competition.
 
This seems like a crazy, but kind of funny situation just now to many I guess, but this could genuinely be the start of a downward spiral for football in general if this is allowed to happen, where a rich guy can come along and just pay insane amounts for the best players with money that the club hasn't earned or even really had in their possession. It's going to become a farce once Mansour starts trying to 'compete. in the same way. There's no real competition to be had this way. It's like entering a snooker contest and buying all of the balls so that you can just place them in the holes and 'win'. There's nothing to like about this.....unless.

What indication is there that City will try to compete? I think the transfer fees are probably indicative of what we'll see going forward for the top players, but there's nothing sustainable about the wages that PSG are offering. We were willing to match the fee that PSG paid for Neymar but were blown away by their wage offer. Same thing with Real and Mbappe. I don't see anyone, including other "oil" clubs, who will attempt to compete with the ridiculous wages they're offering.
 
These are clubs moving forward we are going to have to compete with and in this current climate, we simply can't.

We surely can, Our revenue's grow more and more and more. Because we have a fair league and a great penetration in the world.
 
People are being (unsurprisingly) naive here, eventually the fans pay for it all. If it wasn't for City artificially hiking wages we'd never have had to pay Rooney £250,000 a week.

Mendes, Raiola and all the other sleazeballs are loving this.

I fear Uefa's ineptitude and immorality have been allowed to fester long enough, in terms of a long term business strategy it surely makes sense for clubs like United, Real, Barca and Bayern to form their own Euro league.
 
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What indication is there that City will try to compete? I think the transfer fees are probably indicative of what we'll see going forward for the top players, but there's nothing sustainable about the wages that PSG are offering. We were willing to match the fee that PSG paid for Neymar but were blown away by their wage offer. Same thing with Real and Mbappe. I don't see anyone, including other "oil" clubs, who will attempt to compete with the ridiculous wages they're offering.

There is a rule that the club;s wages can not get more than a fixed percentage of the clubs revenue. As long as they blow up all the wages on 2-3 star players they wil simple have to pay less to other members who'll be unhappy. that's what happened at barca with msn.
 
something has to be done about this, they should be thrown out of the champions league.
 
something has to be done about this, they should be thrown out of the champions league.

They should. Everything about it is completely wrong and should never have been allowed in the first place, including City. You should only be able to spend what the football club generates, not any fake sponsorships or any dodgy dealings. This should be possible to regulate with competent individuals at the helm of an independent organisation that would look into these cases. There'd still be plenty money in the game from the real clubs. Absolutely sick of these sugar daddy clubs ruining football.
 
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something has to be done about this, they should be thrown out of the champions league.
If they have got involved in both transfers(Neymar and Mbappé) then I guess they have studied the regulations carefully to not be caught
 
It's a great move financially and he'll keep winning all the domestic trophies, but what happens when he gets sick of playing against rubbish teams in France and wants to test himself in a more competitive league? Judging by the reported fee/investment, it's highly unlikely the PSG owners would let him leave even if he wants to, just as Verratti is finding out the hard way.

He can make his money now and secure his future, play out his contract and move to whoever his heart desires, or he can insist on a reasonable release clause which PSG would probably agree to considering how desperate they are.
 
Where will he play at PSG and who will be sold in the next 20+ days? Good for him chasing the money. From Monaco to Paris, not too shabby eh?
 
If this is true, Qatar is truly ruling the football world right now, in both the international and the European stages.
 
Football needs a salary cap, a spending cap, something. Something to reward astute squad building rather than just ejaculating waterfalls of cash until you win.

United have essentially built an economic powerhouse through decades of brilliant brand management and on the field success; and clubs like City and PSG skip that entire process by injecting oil money.

I'm not sore about it, because I would much rather support, through virtue of my sheer love for the club, a team like United with history, tradition, identity, a soul and a philosophy - than a shell like the oil clubs. But, the entire trend of football is becoming very distasteful and potentially unsustainable. As much as I was previously against it, I would support a European Super League with tight financial controls - as I have no faith whatsoever in UEFA and would like to see them completely eviscerated.
 
It'd be hilarious if Mbappe went to PSG and won the Ballon d'Or before Neymar.
 
Saw a tweet from NBC Soccer that PSG have ruled out a move for Mbappe because they don't want to violate FFP. Upon reading the article they were essentially linking to another article where the source turns out to be "Goal understands".

Which brings me to my next question. How is it that PSG were unable to sign Di Maria for €70m but can now potentially spend over €400m in one window?
 
Good on PSG for getting shit done. A new CL contender has appeared out of seemingly nothing not too long ago. Better that this happens than Madrid/Barca keep/sign players like Neymar and Mbappe. Funny enough this is promoting parity between elite clubs
 
Good on PSG for getting shit done. A new CL contender has appeared out of seemingly nothing not too long ago. Better that this happens than Madrid/Barca keep/sign players like Neymar and Mbappe. Funny enough this is promoting parity between elite clubs
I agree. I have no idea why are fans annoyed about this when the alternative would have been an even more concentration of talent. We had to sit and watch Barcelona move from Ronaldinho to Messi and it looked ominous that they were going to have the next world beater in Neymar. Who in their right mind thinks this would have been more exciting than the likes of PSG and potentially City sharing that wealth of talent.
 
I agree. I have no idea why are fans annoyed about this when the alternative would have been an even more concentration of talent. We had to sit and watch Barcelona move from Ronaldinho to Messi and it looked ominous that they were going to have the next world beater in Neymar. Who in their right mind thinks this would have been more exciting than the likes of PSG and potentially City sharing that wealth of talent.
The fans annoyed he may go to PSG are probably the same fans that want us to sign Bale. No Mbappe for RM means to Bale for United. Just my guess.
 
My issue is the sums of money now being spurted over good players, not great players, just good.... previously there existed some kind of distinction between the very elite players who could command 50-100% more in transfer fees but then there existed some sense and all other players were at a lower level which gradually increased season on season.... this window seems like we are jumping from around 30-40 mil for the next tier down of players to 70 mil plus being the new standard.

I wonder how much is the inflation caused by purchases like Pogba etc.... and how much is because realistically there is not that much great talent out there at present, hence 130 mil on a relatively unproven youngster.... good thing he is staying in France may well have flopped if in a harder league, not that Spain is much better
 
Which brings me to my next question. How is it that PSG were unable to sign Di Maria for €70m but can now potentially spend over €400m in one window?

Simple. They have found a solution to dribble FFP, and UEFA is yet to find a way to penalize it. Maybe UEFA doesn't want to do anything because they are corrupt, or they don't do anything because PSG found a way to 'legally' circumvent their worth-of-nothing regulations.
 
Mbappe to PSG would be yet another insane deal and another political statement from Qatar. For him personally it's a bad move imo, the level of Ligue 1 is just not up to snuff compared to the PL and La Liga. PSG going out there and trying to buy everyone is nothing new for top clubs (see what Barca are doing with Coutinho and Dembele) the problem is that their source of funding is suspect at the very least.
 
Mbappe to PSG would be yet another insane deal and another political statement from Qatar. For him personally it's a bad move imo, the level of Ligue 1 is just not up to snuff compared to the PL and La Liga. PSG going out there and trying to buy everyone is nothing new for top clubs (see what Barca are doing with Coutinho and Dembele) the problem is that their source of funding is suspect at the very least.

Actually, its' a good move for him. He stays at PSG for 3 years, collecting Ligue 1 medals at a canter and gaining CL experience. There is lesser pressure as he has Neymar and co to share the burden, so he can develop his skills. Then he moves to Real when Ronaldo or Benzema etc can make way for him.

It makes a lot of sense from a sporting and financial perspective.
 
I think it's a good move for the player personally. He's only 18 years old and has had just one good season. A move to the PL or La Liga might be too much for him. This way he can continue his development in the same country and move to a better league after 4-5 years.
 
Actually, its' a good move for him. He stays at PSG for 3 years, collecting Ligue 1 medals at a canter and gaining CL experience. There is lesser pressure as he has Neymar and co to share the burden, so he can develop his skills. Then he moves to Real when Ronaldo or Benzema etc can make way for him.

It makes a lot of sense from a sporting and financial perspective.

Problem is they will never let him leave hahaha. Seriously though PSG don't let go of players they want to keep. Unless they don't want him in the future he's stuck there until the end of his deal. Financially of course it makes total sense for him that's why he's not going there don't think there's any other real reason. From a football perspective he's already playing in Ligue 1 and won it so not much improvement there. As for CL experience I think he'll be expected to be the number 2 guy behind Neymar which is quite a bit of pressure as well.
 
I think it's a good move for the player personally. He's only 18 years old and has had just one good season. A move to the PL or La Liga might be too much for him. This way he can continue his development in the same country and move to a better league after 4-5 years.

The only way you leave PSG is if they allow you to.
 
Not really. Not even 2 years in his contract and he'll extend. Either on his own or at the pressure of PSG.
Not necessarily. He'll have his own advisors, if they feel he's progressing enough that he will want to leave then they won't extend, at least not without a buy out clause.
 
Not necessarily. He'll have his own advisors, if they feel he's progressing enough that he will want to leave then they won't extend, at least not without a buy out clause.

I'm telling you I've yet to see PSG being pressured to do something. Mbappe won't be able to either. They have so much money that if a player misbehaves they can afford to bench him until he gets to his senses. Regular clubs don't have this power because they can't absorb such a loss.
 
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