Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy

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FFP has become a joke. The Qataris will just line up some sketchy merchandising deals worth hundreds of millions and, presto PSG, will be in compliance of FFP.

The only risk they run is if suddenly it's the European Commissioner for Competition, and not UEFA, that becomes interested in their activities.

No one really cares. If Barcelona buy Coutinho, it is football money being shuffled around. When PSG is buying Neymar, this is Arab oil and natural gas money coming into European football. I think FFP is just a way for UEFA to show that they care. Ultimately, Qatar's money is raising the profile of French football and creating another European giant that will increase the marketability of the game internationally.
 
Rooney had almost finished his first year at us when he was approaching 19! Mbappe 6 months in no way equates to that. Rooney made his debut at 16, thats a lot of football and a lot of wow moments
 
After acquiring Neymar, PSG owner concluded that PSG was worth 500m more overnight. Once they get Mbappe they would have become about a billion Euro more valuable in space of a few weeks. It's just good business sense if you ask me.
 
Rooney had almost finished his first year at us when he was approaching 19! Mbappe 6 months in no way equates to that. Rooney made his debut at 16, thats a lot of football and a lot of wow moments

Both careers are different, comparisons like that are pointless. Saying that 'this player had played in this or that game/tournament' is a bit irrelevant I think. Those are just the games that were there to play at the time. Mbappé, contrary to rhetoric, has been playing for more than '6 months' too. He made his debut last season too at little above 16 himself, but again, that means nothing. Messi was also older than 16 when he made his debut.

What matters is simply how good both are/were - and for me, simply from watching both play football in the games that they were out in to play, Mbappé is not inferior to what Rooney was. He's a force of nature, just as Rooney was.
 
FFP has become a joke. The Qataris will just line up some sketchy merchandising deals worth hundreds of millions and, presto PSG, will be in compliance of FFP.

The only risk they run is if suddenly it's the European Commissioner for Competition, and not UEFA, that becomes interested in their activities.
I don't know the ins and outs of FFP, but surely there are regulations in place to prevent their owners from doing these sketchy deals to bypass it?
 
I don't know the ins and outs of FFP, but surely there are regulations in place to prevent their owners from doing these sketchy deals to bypass it?

The problem is how you prove that a sponsorship deal is not legitimately due to your standing as a football club, but because of who owns you. UEFA's regulatory authority doesn't extend quite that far.
 
I don't know the ins and outs of FFP, but surely there are regulations in place to prevent their owners from doing these sketchy deals to bypass it?
There was talk about judging the legitimacy of sponsorship deals and requiring such deals not being related to owners, but then UEFA accepted both PSG's sponsorship and the City Etihad deal at face-value, pretty much killing any hope any of us had of putting a brake on the sugar daddy revolution in the sport. And now here we are.
 
Genuinely hopes he flops if he does move there. Paying that sort of money for a teenager who's played half a season is ridiculous.

That and I have 3-1 odds on him staying a Monaco :drool:.
 
The problem is how you prove that a sponsorship deal is not legitimately due to your standing as a football club, but because of who owns you. UEFA's regulatory authority doesn't extend quite that far.
There was talk about judging the legitimacy of sponsorship deals and requiring such deals not being related to owners, but then UEFA accepted both PSG's sponsorship and the City Etihad deal at face-value, pretty much killing any hope any of us had of putting a brake on the sugar daddy revolution in the sport. And now here we are.
Fair enough, it looks like both PSG and City have virtually unlimited funds then. Interesting that Chelsea still don't spend comparatively as lavishly as when Abramovich initially took over.
 
After acquiring Neymar, PSG owner concluded that PSG was worth 500m more overnight. Once they get Mbappe they would have become about a billion Euro more valuable in space of a few weeks. It's just good business sense if you ask me.

Where are you getting this crap??
 
Mbappe and Neymar.

What a front two that could be.

In 2-3 years it has to be the best front two in football. Hell, it might be sooner than that depending on how Suarez-Messi and Ronaldo-Benzema duos age.
 
In 2-3 years it has to be the best front two in football. Hell, it might be sooner than that depending on how Suarez-Messi and Ronaldo-Benzema duos age.

They need competition. Playing against Ligue 1 defences each week won't challenge them to improve. It'll breed complacency.
 
possibilities:

PSG know they couldn't comply with FFP anyways after neymar and decided to just go feck it, let's go for it

PSG believe the impact of neymar and mbappé will give a massive boost to their finances

PSG believe UEFA will look the other way so as to not lose Neymar and Mbappé from the competition
 
possibilities:

PSG know they couldn't comply with FFP anyways after neymar and decided to just go feck it, let's go for it

PSG believe the impact of neymar and mbappé will give a massive boost to their finances

PSG believe UEFA will look the other way so as to not lose Neymar and Mbappé from the competition

Somewhere between 2 or 3 I believe. I'd have a long hard look at the sponsorship deals they get from now on. I don't dispute that for the likes of Nike, PSG is now a huge product, but a Ligue 1 club is simply not on the global consciousness in the way the top PL sides or the Spanish Giants for that matter.
 
possibilities:

PSG know they couldn't comply with FFP anyways after neymar and decided to just go feck it, let's go for it

PSG believe the impact of neymar and mbappé will give a massive boost to their finances

PSG believe UEFA will look the other way so as to not lose Neymar and Mbappé from the competition
This will certainly not be the case.
 
In the current market? I'd say at least 85 or 90. I wonder if this is a bubble or an ongoing trend though
No way any team would pay that much. He's not rated as highly as the others and there is not that kind of hype around him.
 
Lol, why would Mbappe move to PSG now while RM are interested? It's almost a step down, from the Ligue 1 winners.

Have to wonder how PSG are gonna comply with FFP if they go through with this. Just 3 years ago they respected FFP so much that they couldn't sign Di Maria for £45m from RM. What changed exactly?
 
Lol, why would Mbappe move to PSG now while RM are interested? It's almost a step down, from the Ligue 1 winners.

Have to wonder how PSG are gonna comply with FFP if they go through with this. Just 3 years ago they respected FFP so much that they couldn't sign Di Maria for £45m from RM. What changed exactly?
Maybe they found a loophole
 
Maybe they found a loophole
There were rumors that Neymar would be paid directly by Qatar and sign a contract in Qatar as a world cup ambassador to avoid tax, and for PSG to avoid FFP. Not sure if that's true or not.
 
Lol, why would Mbappe move to PSG now while RM are interested? It's almost a step down, from the Ligue 1 winners.

Have to wonder how PSG are gonna comply with FFP if they go through with this. Just 3 years ago they respected FFP so much that they couldn't sign Di Maria for £45m from RM. What changed exactly?
3 years ago PSG was under sanctions for not respecting FFP, now the finances are in great shape.

I don't know exactly in which conditions PSG could buy Mbappé on top of Neymar. It's not impossible but may just be rumours to drive the player price up.

There were rumors that Neymar would be paid directly by Qatar and sign a contract in Qatar as a world cup ambassador to avoid tax, and for PSG to avoid FFP. Not sure if that's true or not.
The UEFA made it clear that a player transfer will be counted in the club accounts whatever way a release clause is paid.
 
There were rumors that Neymar would be paid directly by Qatar and sign a contract in Qatar as a world cup ambassador to avoid tax, and for PSG to avoid FFP. Not sure if that's true or not.

Without knowing anything about Neymar's deal or the potential Mbappe deal, I could think of a couple of ways to cook the books. The easiest would be the image rights of these players that PSG could potentially own. Qatar employs Neymar and perhaps Mbappe as ambassadors for ridiculous amounts of money which would repay PSG in image rights.

Qatar world cup is in exactly 5 years from now, which is also the length of Neymar's contract. He could easily be employed as the ambassador for the world cup for next 5 years at, say, 60-70 million a year and a healthy percentage of it could go straight to PSG.
 
He wasn't. Mbappé just hasn't played in a Euros yet, but what he has played, has been on a similar level to what Rooney was doing.

Gotta ask, did you watch the Euro 2004 tournament?

Because it sounds a lot like something someone who wasn't watching his performances back then would say. He was the star of the tournament. The most exceptional teenager to play the game. As the question asked, he was already, by that time, far more accomplished than Mbappe in his career, and he was playing against bigger talents.
 
Gotta ask, did you watch the Euro 2004 tournament?

Because it sounds a lot like something someone who wasn't watching his performances back then would say. He was the star of the tournament. The most exceptional teenager to play the game. As the question asked, he was already, by that time, far more accomplished than Mbappe in his career, and he was playing against bigger talents.

Rooney had yet to have the type of performances Mbappe had in the CL.
 
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