Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy

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Raoul said:
I'd love to see him stay at Monaco. If he can replicate his form another year and have a great WC, the fee will only get bigger. Its also better for him to stay where he is so he can develop without the pressure of a record breaking fee.
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Jacko21 said:
That's what they're gambling on. I'd say it is admirable, but Rybolovlev is stinking rich so what's €100m anyways?

They can afford to keep him.
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In regards to purely money considerations, I wonder if its more of a gamble to keep him. How do we know that Monoco will progress next season and not fall short of the level they got to this season? His value can also go down if the team looses some of its players to other clubs in the transfer windows and he has a poor to Ok season due to less quality in the team or is in and out due to injury.

Best to cash in now I would say as no one will be able to pay more than 100-120 Million because of FFP or the fact that lets be honest Madrid and United would be the only teams with that kind of money where Madrid don't need him and are doing pretty well without him. He would be a luxury for them and they risk Ronaldo, Bale Mbappe ego triangle. If anything it would be United who would be desperate enough to spend that type of cash to get back challenging.
 
kouroux said:
How the hell could that even be hinted as racism :wenger: ? Racism is a serious issue and it annoys me so much when stupid shit can be written about it like that.
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Don't worry, I've marked the post and thus the poster. Too serious an issue for trivial shit like this to be acceptable.
 
You guys get really desperate to call Marcello or Pepe black:) Wtf.
 
I personally think convincing Monaco is one thing (and I find hard to believe they'd outright reject a world-record fee for an 18-year old who was part of a season they'll have a hard time recreating), I think the other challenge is convincing Mbappe. Monaco would be smart to take anything close to a WR, but they won't go through with it without convincing him it's the right move along with his entourage.

Part of the reason I'm hyped on this kid is his mentality. He cares about his development more than being part of a transfer saga that ends in a world record along with all the headlines it'll carry because of his age and relative inexperience. I don't see him leaving Monaco to play second fiddle to anybody (so I think Barca and Madrid are out, unless Benzema is sold). If Mbappe leaves, it's to become one of the first names on the starting XI, otherwise he'll remain at Monaco and sign an extension so clubs don't diminish his value due to the fact he'd only have a year left on his contract (assuming he continues his form, which I believe he will bar injuries, despite a team that will have sold some key players).

With the situation in Manchester, I think Mourinho can offer that if he's as obsessed with this kid as some in the media have suggested, and an offer with some smart add-ons that can reduce the upfront fee would go a long way to securing a proper striker for many years. He's the striker I would go for over anybody bar Griezmann if he costs less.
 
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Adam-Utd said:
I'm pretty shocked if the 100m rejection is true though, perhaps they're hoping we come in with an even bigger bid.
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I don't believe that figure, either.
If you have an 18 yr old on your books and someone offers a WR fee. Generally, you accept.
Now, if the player is proven to be high quality at the highest level (eg. Ronaldo, Neymar, Messi, etc), then I could well understand declining an offer for the player who is consistently delivering for them.
 
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LuisNaniencia said:
Would have to be around these figures. Similar potential levels in my opinion.
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Mwah, think Mbappe is a generational level and certain future ballon d'Or contender along with Mbappe, Rashford has the potential to be special with the right coaching. More an Aubameyang level which would be excellent. He needs to work on his consistency in technique, dribble, shooting, still work on his finishing and movement and then he can be genuinely excellent I think.
 
Sammyjunn said:
Mwah, think Mbappe is a generational level and certain future ballon d'Or contender along with Mbappe, Rashford has the potential to be special with the right coaching. More an Aubameyang level which would be excellent. He needs to work on his consistency in technique, dribble, shooting, still work on his finishing and movement and then he can be genuinely excellent I think.
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Mbappe is definitely not a "certain future ballon d'Or contender", it's way to soon to call this. Right now he is Thauvin/Balotelli level, which is very impressive given his young age, and really only a rare occasion. But there is nothing certain in life, there are so many possible outcomes how he pans out..
He is definitely potential Ballon d'Or contender, but it's by far not as clear as it was with 18-year aged Ronaldo or Messi..with Ronaldo i was certain (subjectively) that he'd win it, Mbappe at the current stage i'd give 30% to win it in the next 10 years. He had a great first season, as had Rashford last year. Let him repeat his performance, and we can start talking...but then he still has to proof that he has the right mentality for the highest order (United, Real)
 
Celestiale said:
Mbappe is definitely not a "certain future ballon d'Or contender", it's way to soon to call this. Right now he is Thauvin/Balotelli level, which is very impressive given his young age, and really only a rare occasion. But there is nothing certain in life, there are so many possible outcomes how he pans out..
He is definitely potential Ballon d'Or contender, but it's by far not as clear as it was with 18-year aged Ronaldo or Messi..with Ronaldo i was certain (subjectively) that he'd win it, Mbappe at the current stage i'd give 30% to win it in the next 10 years. He had a great first season, as had Rashford last year. Let him repeat his performance, and we can start talking...but then he still has to proof that he has the right mentality for the highest order (United, Real)
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The season Mbappe has had, was far greater then what Rashford had tbf. As someone said even before the hype, unless injuries taunt him or he moves Real next year, he will soon be amongst the best strikers. What he showed vs Dortmund, Monaco, Juve on the CL, his massive impact on Monaco at this age shows he is the real deal. Along with Dembele in a class of their own in their age groups. I dont think he's as talented as Messi, but his effective play at this age already is astonishing. Ofcourse it remains to be seen if he can replicate that next year.
 
Sammyjunn said:
Mwah, think Mbappe is a generational level and certain future ballon d'Or contender along with Mbappe, Rashford has the potential to be special with the right coaching. More an Aubameyang level which would be excellent. He needs to work on his consistency in technique, dribble, shooting, still work on his finishing and movement and then he can be genuinely excellent I think.
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:lol::lol: I'm hearing it all with Mbappe now. The guy that said Balotteli, fair judgement. Give the kid time to prove himself. Jesus.

I wonder who will get the ballon d'O first him or Martial.
 
Sammyjunn said:
The season Mbappe has had, was far greater then what Rashford had tbf. As someone said even before the hype, unless injuries taunt him or he moves Real next year, he will soon be amongst the best strikers. What he showed vs Dortmund, Monaco, Juve on the CL, his massive impact on Monaco at this age shows he is the real deal. Along with Dembele in a class of their own in their age groups. I dont think he's as talented as Messi, but his effective play at this age already is astonishing. Ofcourse it remains to be seen if he can replicate that next year.
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Your a Manchester United fan I take it. Do you not remember an 18 year old Rooney? That's what genius talent looks like. These kids a just real good same goes for Rashford.
 
Mainoldo said:
:lol::lol: I'm hearing it all with Mbappe now. The guy that said Balotteli, fair judgement. Give the kid time to prove himself. Jesus.

I wonder who will get the ballon d'O first him or Martial.
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What is so strange about calling him a future Ballon d'Or contender? Considering it's basically a price for attacker and he is the most promising one now. Just as Dybala/Neymar are too (which you could see from miles coming).
 
Mainoldo said:
Your a Manchester United fan I take it. Do you not remember an 18 year old Rooney? That's what genius talent looks like. These kids a just real good same goes for Rashford.
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I do, I do think Mbappe isnt as magical as other talents, most of his goals very well taken in the box, great movement and great pace. But dont undermine his consistency and excellence in doing what he does. His movement, pace, and finishing is absolutely class. He has outsmarted Europe's best defenders on consistent basis already, showing some terrific understanding of the game aged 17/18. He is almost 1 on 1 in his last 20 matches, that's insane for any straker let alone an 18 year old. Given that the Ballon d'Or is basically a trophy for the best attackers, I do think in the future he will be a contender for that. And I class Rashford a bit lower personally, needs a higher basis level and more consistency in certain aspects of his game. His shooting, finishing and dribbking varies from great to shit too often and even within matches.
 
Sammyjunn said:
I do, I do think Mbappe isnt as magical as other talents, most of his goals very well taken in the box, great movement and great pace. But dont undermine his consistency and excellence in doing what he does. His movement, pace, and finishing is absolutely class. He has outsmarted Europe's best defenders on consistent basis already, showing some terrific understanding of the game aged 17/18. He is almost 1 on 1 in his last 20 matches, that's insane for any straker let alone an 18 year old. Given that the Ballon d'Or is basically a trophy for the best attackers, I do think in the future he will be a contender for that. And I class Rashford a bit lower personally, needs a higher basis level and more consistency in certain aspects of his game. His shooting, finishing and dribbking varies from great to shit too often and even within matches.
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Well if that's the case I expect Harry Kane to get the award very soon as he will more than likely out score a lot of those player Mbappe included, especially if he goes Real Madrid. Strikers will always score goals, Ballon d'O awards go to what is perceived as the best player in the world.

The Rashford arguement I don't agree with either, he's clearly as talented as Mbappe what your are basising your opinion on is the latter being more polished. You have to remember there age, I don't expect a 18/19 to be a complete player. I agree Mbappe seems like a naturally or well nurtured finisher! But I think we are going abit crazy with his talent based on this. Nicolas Anelka for the same age was a better player than Mbappe. If he does go to Madrid next season I can guarantee the move will set him back 2 years.
 
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how much is Kane worth then? If we're sprouting figures of £60-£100m for potential, what is proven talent worth??? Thought the football world had gone mad, but lately seems more so - Real sign / set to sign a 16 year old for £40m etc.
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The figures are insane I agree, but I'm only comparing Rashford's value if Mbappe is worth 103m as quoted.
 
Mainoldo said:
Well if that's the case I expect Harry Kane to get the award very soon as he will more than likely out score a lot of those player Mbappe included, especially if he goes Real Madrid. Strikers will always score goals, Ballon d'O awards go to what is perceived as the best player in the world.

The Rashford arguement I don't agree with either, he's clearly as talented as Mbappe what your are basising your opinion on is the latter being more polished. You have to remember there age, I don't expect a 18/19 to be a complete player. I agree Mbappe seems like a naturally or well nurtured finisher! But I think we are going abit crazy with his talent based on this. Nicolas Anelka for the same age was a better player than Mbappe. If he does go to Madrid next season I can guarantee the move will set him back 2 years.
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Mwah Harry Kane has yet to show it in the CL like Mbappe did for example. Was shit at Euro's too. He is a well proven Pl striker who guarantees goals, phenomenal. Currently ofcourse better than Kane but I can see Mbappe reaching levels far higher. His creativity, dribbling are on a far higher level than Kane will ever have. Mbappe has everything to be a complete striker, whilst I think, stick Kane in a well functioning team, there's no way he will score less than 30.

Rashford isnt clearly as talented as Mbappe, no non United/English fan would come to that conclusion. Nor was Anelka, Anelka only startes to hit in his 4th/5th when he was 1.5 year older than Mbappe was, and even then Mbappe's record surpasses his by decent margin. He seems very level-headed and has been a great prospect for years, maybe he wont replicate this but all the signs are there. I myself hope Rashford can mirror certain elements to him, he can be a similar complete striker in the future. Also not entirely fair on him as he hasnt always been a striker, but neither has Mbappe I think.
 
LuisNaniencia said:
The figures are insane I agree, but I'm only comparing Rashford's value if Mbappe is worth 103m as quoted.
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Rashford has no value, if United rate Rashford like Monaco rate Mbappé then Rashford isn't for sale. Unless, he wants to leave.
 
Sammyjunn said:
Mwah Harry Kane has yet to show it in the CL like Mbappe did for example. Was shit at Euro's too. He is a well proven Pl striker who guarantees goals, phenomenal. Currently ofcourse better than Kane but I can see Mbappe reaching levels far higher. His creativity, dribbling are on a far higher level than Kane will ever have. Mbappe has everything to be a complete striker, whilst I think, stick Kane in a well functioning team, there's no way he will score less than 30.

Rashford isnt clearly as talented as Mbappe, no non United/English fan would come to that conclusion. Nor was Anelka, Anelka only startes to hit in his 4th/5th when he was 1.5 year older than Mbappe was, and even then Mbappe's record surpasses his by decent margin. He seems very level-headed and has been a great prospect for years, maybe he wont replicate this but all the signs are there. I myself hope Rashford can mirror certain elements to him, he can be a similar complete striker in the future. Also not entirely fair on him as he hasnt always been a striker, but neither has Mbappe I think.
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Mbappe has had one good season (he hasn't had the opportunity to fail like Kane). You are talking like he is a seasoned striker. His team are one of the highest scoring teams in Europe hence why his return is so good. Try see how he plays when he is in a tougher league like Rashford and Anelka was. Rashford is highly rated in Europe the buzz isn't as big because no one is getting a highly rated English talent playing for Manchester United. Mbappe is very gettable.
 
Mainoldo said:
Mbappe has had one good season (he hasn't had the opportunity to fail like Kane). You are talking like he is a seasoned striker. His team are one of the highest scoring teams in Europe hence why his return is so good. Try see how he plays when he is in a tougher league like Rashford and Anelka was. Rashford is highly rated in Europe the buzz isn't as big because no one is getting a highly rated English talent playing for Manchester United. Mbappe is very gettable.
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He had the opportunity not to shine and replicate his form in the CL vs the best teams in Europe, but he actually did with ease. Ofcourse we will see how he does at the WC next year, in a tougher league or even generally next year. There's always a possibility he's an one season wonder but I highly doubt it. Kane is a bit older and a proven PL striker, nobody can say he is a one season wonder anymore, should start replicating that form to international level.

Mwah, Martial and Januzaj's buzz were higher whilst at United (rate Rashford higher than both myself). But we arent seeing any Ronaldo9 / Henry comparisons with Rashford, I dont even want to discredit him as I think he's a phenomenal talent, but in FIFa terms if I could summarize it best, Rashford is an exciting prospect and Mbappe has the potential to be special. But Rashford is a quick learner with good mentality, in a better functioning United next season, he might have a stormer.
 
Sammyjunn said:
He had the opportunity not to shine and replicate his form in the CL vs the best teams in Europe, but he actually did with ease. Ofcourse we will see how he does at the WC next year, in a tougher league or even generally next year. There's always a possibility he's an one season wonder but I highly doubt it. Kane is a bit older and a proven PL striker, nobody can say he is a one season wonder anymore, should start replicating that form to international level.

Mwah, Martial and Januzaj's buzz were higher whilst at United (rate Rashford higher than both myself). But we arent seeing any Ronaldo9 / Henry comparisons with Rashford, I dont even want to discredit him as I think he's a phenomenal talent, but in FIFa terms if I could summarize it best, Rashford is an exciting prospect and Mbappe has the potential to be special. But Rashford is a quick learner with good mentality, in a better functioning United next season, he might have a stormer.
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His team made it to the semis why would he not shine? If United make it to the semis touch wood if we get champs league next season I guarantee Rashford will have a couple goals to his name too.

Your right those players had a bigger buzz because they looked more talented. What I'm getting at in line with this is Mbappe doesn't look special for his age. Christian Ronaldo, Messi, Rooney. These guys looked special as in best player in the world in years to come. I don't get that same feeling from watching Mbappe. He's fast and can finish. He's not tenacious, he ball control doesn't look naturally gifted, he's not amazing with his feet, his view of the game isn't extraordinary for his age either. When you watched the other 3 at 18, they had that special feeling.

Not to long things out I don't get the hype with his talent.
 
Mainoldo said:
Your a Manchester United fan I take it. Do you not remember an 18 year old Rooney? That's what genius talent looks like. These kids a just real good same goes for Rashford.
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Rooney was a fantastic all round player, but his goal output was never that high in his first few seasons.

What Mbappe has done at EVERY level of football so far is fascinating.

Yes he will probably have a slump at some point, but his game looks far too good already for it to just fall off completely.

He doesn't rely on pace + tricks, his movement is golden.
 
Mainoldo said:
His team made it to the semis why would he not shine? If United make it to the semis touch wood if we get champs league next season I guarantee Rashford will have a couple goals to his name too.

Your right those players had a bigger buzz because they looked more talented. What I'm getting at in line with this is Mbappe doesn't look special for his age. Christian Ronaldo, Messi, Rooney. These guys looked special as in best player in the world in years to come. I don't get that same feeling from watching Mbappe. He's fast and can finish. He's not tenacious, he ball control doesn't look naturally gifted, he's not amazing with his feet, his view of the game isn't extraordinary for his age either. When you watched the other 3 at 18, they had that special feeling.

Not to long things out I don't get the hype with his talent.
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Yes his team made it to the semi's because he was decisive vs Man City, Dortmund and was also the only one to score vs Juventus.

I get that argument, he doesnt look magical in that regard. Very effective, extremely fast, excellent finishing and excellent movement but his dribbling is still very good. Im not saying he will reach Ronaldo/Messi heights, I really dont think so actually especially Messi (which isnt a shame), I dont think he is as talented/gifted even though at the same age you could say he has performed better. But if I look at his current age mates, the best upcoming forwards ahead of him (Neymar, Dybala, Kane, Lacazette, Griezmann etc), I think he can be a contender for the Ballon d'Or in a few years to come. Along with Dembele, who does have that magical thing but doesnt have the same mentality and consistency in a game. But when he decides to turn up, he's absolutely frightening.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Rooney was a fantastic all round player, but his goal output was never that high in his first few seasons.

What Mbappe has done at EVERY level of football so far is fascinating.

Yes he will probably have a slump at some point, but his game looks far too good already for it to just fall off completely.

He doesn't rely on pace + tricks, his movement is golden.
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Well good think he doesn't rely on tricks. He ain't got much. For his age his goalscoring re it's has been amazing. But like I have mentioned his team score goals for fun. It's not as though he is the reason for their high return if that makes sense.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Rooney was a fantastic all round player, but his goal output was never that high in his first few seasons.

What Mbappe has done at EVERY level of football so far is fascinating.

Yes he will probably have a slump at some point, but his game looks far too good already for it to just fall off completely.

He doesn't rely on pace + tricks, his movement is golden.
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It's his movement that is really remarkable to me. We often see young strikers burst onto the scene with incredible pace and power, but how often do you see an 18 year old beguiling experienced defenders with their movement? He's a rare talent that's for sure. It makes me think he has a great football brain too.
 
Sammyjunn said:
Yes his team made it to the semi's because he was decisive vs Man City, Dortmund and was also the only one to score vs Juventus.

I get that argument, he doesnt look magical in that regard. Very effective, extremely fast, excellent finishing and excellent movement but his dribbling is still very good. Im not saying he will reach Ronaldo/Messi heights, I really dont think so actually especially Messi (which isnt a shame), I dont think he is as talented/gifted even though at the same age you could say he has performed better. But if I look at his current age mates, the best upcoming forwards ahead of him (Neymar, Dybala, Kane, Lacazette, Griezmann etc), I think he can be a contender for the Ballon d'Or in a few years to come. Along with Dembele, who does have that magical thing but doesnt have the same mentality and consistency in a game. But when he decides to turn up, he's absolutely frightening.
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Just on the ballon d'o bit.. your missing out a lot of players like Pogba, Alli, Hazard, Bale. He's too young to be consider anywhere touching this award for another 4 years atleast with players like Neymar and Suarez around, take into account the demise of the two greats, which isn't looking close. I just find it an odd statement people are making these days. Let's just watch him develop, i have seen nothing to suggest he is destined to have a better career than Dembele (the Celtic one).
 
Mainoldo said:
Just on the ballon d'o bit.. your missing out a lot of players like Pogba, Alli, Hazard, Bale. He's too young to be consider anywhere touching this award for another 4 years atleast with players like Neymar and Suarez around, take into account the demise of the two greats, which isn't looking close. I just find it an odd statement people are making these days. Let's just watch him develop, i have seen nothing to suggest he is destined to have a better career than Dembele (the Celtic one).
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Mwah Pogba might be a possibility but peoplr will forever just look at goals and assists which will likely cancel Pogba and Hazard out. Alli is excellent but only in the PL alone I can see Coutinho/Eriksen easily outperform him. Not ballon d'Or material imo. Bale will be 28 at the start of next season, with his playing style heavily relying on physique, all the injuries and Isco getting better and better and cementing that spot, I dont think it's too likely. He's worse than Neymar fwiw. Suarez wont get younger either. Im not saying Mbappe is winning it but I think he will be a contender for that.

And about Dembele, dont even want to discuss that, he is so clearly lesser than Mbappe.
 
Sammyjunn said:
Mwah Pogba might be a possibility but peoplr will forever just look at goals and assists which will likely cancel Pogba and Hazard out. Alli is excellent but only in the PL alone I can see Coutinho/Eriksen easily outperform him. Not ballon d'Or material imo. Bale will be 28 at the start of next season, with his playing style heavily relying on physique, all the injuries and Isco getting better and better and cementing that spot, I dont think it's too likely. He's worse than Neymar fwiw. Suarez wont get younger either. Im not saying Mbappe is winning it but I think he will be a contender for that.

And about Dembele, dont even want to discuss that, he is so clearly lesser than Mbappe.
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Well I don't agree with any of your points so we can just leave it there, you sound very baised especially the way you've just palmsed Alli but want to praise Mbappe for doing it in the French league for one season. But very interesting I might be wrong, I might give you a cheeky reminder of what I said in a couple years time if I end up being right lol.
 
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