Breaking the world record fee on an 18 year old with one good year to his name just so no one else buys him first is a pure panic move imo. Let's get back to our senses and look at our overarching priorities ahead of next year instead of getting intoxicated by Mbappe-mania transfer muppetry.
Kylian Mbappé joins PSG on one year loan with option to buy
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Breaking the world record fee on an 18 year old with one good year to his name just so no one else buys him first is a pure panic move imo. Let's get back to our senses and look at our overarching priorities ahead of next year instead of getting intoxicated by Mbappe-mania transfer muppetry.
Couldn't agree more. Let's see how he develops first.
If he reaches Ronaldo, Messi or even Henry levels, he would be well worth it.
But your "if" is the key, he could also end up like Balotelli.
Im seeing a good head on his shoulders, so I don't think he'd be the kind of bonehead a Ballotelli or Bendtner is.
He won't.
Let's see, nothing is certain either way.
Players just don't become as good as Messi or Ronaldo. They are once in a lifetime type players. I feel it's unfair to MBappe to make such comparisons.
God, I hope he comes to Liverpool. Not that he's the kind of player we need, or that he would, but still
I'm seeing it too but things can go south quickly. Now, to be fair to him and his family, they are described as very professional and very serious.
I'm starting to want to sign this guy more than Griezmann. Think he's exactly what we need. But then again, that's why I'm not in charge of transfers!
How curious then, that we're actually seeing two of them in one lifetime
Yes, its an odd coincidence that both happen to have emerged at the same time. They are the first true superstars of football after it became completely internationalized.
It would be a massive gamble, there's no certainty that he'd hit the heights he's expected to. Martial 12 months ago looked a bargain but now not sure.
That said, we took a punt on Rooney with a big fee all them years ago which was also a massive gamble and it paid off for SAF in his time.
I'd be all for us giving it a go.
That said, we took a punt on Rooney with a big fee all them years ago which was also a massive gamble and it paid off for SAF in his time.
I'd be all for us giving it a go.
I feel that Mbappe is already a level above Martial back before we bought him and now. This is why he is so special. Martial isn't as fast, decisive, powerful or as good a finisher.
We need a goalscorer and he is already one of the best despite only being 18.
Wouldn't mind at all if we splurged £100m or £110m on him.
We may only get 3 years or so from him before he goes elsewhere but when that happens it would be for double the fee we paid.
Wouldn't mind at all if we splurged £100m or £110m on him.
We may only get 3 years or so from him before he goes elsewhere but when that happens it would be for double the fee we paid.
I'd imagine any fee paid for him would be structured in a similar way to the Martial deal. I can't imagine any club will end up paying any more than £50-60 million up front for him. With incentives included could see the fee going near (or above) the £100 million mark. Would reduce the risk for the buying club and if he fulfils his potential Monaco will still end up getting the sort of fee they are looking for.
He will be here. Doesn't track back as much.
I disagree, if Martial had stayed at Monaco he would have the same impact which Mbappe has had for them. One good season don't make any player special, I will agree that he is special when he does the same thing for a couple of years.
I disagree, Martial never scored more than 12 goals in a season and no more than 15 goals in his 4 seasons in Ligue 1. Quite apart from what Mbappe has done this season alone, especially in the upper tiers of football in the UEFA Champions League.
It is more reminiscent of Benzema at Lyon. And if Mbappe can produce six straight seasons of over 20 goals at club level (seven if he gets two more), then I would want him at Madrid for whatever the price. Mbappe also seems to have a much better head on his shoulders than Benzema.
It's becoming clear to me that Mbappe will be responsible for the most muppetry this summer.
he won't need to track back chasing balls he has lost as he has an end product
Martial showed similar dribbling but never that finishing ability. He still doesn't now TBH unless it's a curl from the left.
His runs are also nowhere near the quality of Mbappe's. I feel Martial wants to "play" with the ball more, where as Mbappe just wants to score.
Not necessarily because Monaco needed money at the time and they don't this season.
Well, I don't know if Monaco were playing this well when Martial was there. Were Monaco this good when Martial was there? I feel Martial is talented just like Mbappe but because of personal reasons and other things Martial hasn't been in form and is low on confidence. Mbappe doesn't have these problems which Martial has. Martial's wife let him and he even had a daughter, his number was taken from him and given to Ibra, he has been publicly criticised by Jose.
I wouldn't say special. I would say they are both talented players, I will call them special when they play like special players for a couple of seasons not after 1 good season. You are calling Mbappe special as if he has already played like Messi or Ronaldo.
Most reasonable post I read about this thread! He's a real talent but paying the world record fee will be pretty crazy!
You can't end a product when you receive the ball in your own half. Or worse still, when most of the game your team is trying to prevent the other team from scoring and he has to man mark mighty Kyle Naughton for the entire game. Mbappe needs technical coaching at this stage of his career and an attack first manager. We're just not the club for a player like that, that's the harsh reality. Let Mourinho do what he's good at and buy established players and win trophies with them.
Let him go to Madrid! We already have two projects with Rashford and Martial. We need proven, mature striking options. Mou isn't really renowned for his ability to nurture young kids.
Mbappe is both faster with and without the ball. Martial is not going to get faster. That is one of the main points I was making as I was talking about his physical attributes.
Depends on the team he goes to. If he moves to a defensive team, of course he might not fulfill his promise. There are a few reasons why Martial has not performed the way he did last year, few were his fault, few are not.
How would you know? First off, no one had any idea either Cristiano, and to a lesser extent Messi were going to become as good as they became. Messi's talent became clear at 19 years old when he scored a hat-trick at the Bernabeu, but there were still concerns about his muscle injuries preventing him from being on the field and realizing his potential. Cristiano was nowhere near as good as Mbappe at 18, I'd say Mbappe at 18 is better than Cristiano was all the way up until 22+.
When a young player emerges, it divides people into the overly-cautious group or the muppet-train group. I fall in the latter. I've seen talented youngsters before. Benzema is the closest comparison I can make to Mbappe. I remember when he scored his goal against Manchester United, people went crazy for him and wanted him at all costs. I think Mbappe is even better than Benzema (who I think is more of a link-up striker than a finish-at-all-costs striker like Mbappe).
The reason I wouldn't worry about spending money on Mbappe is that he's nowhere near the finished product but he's already got so many important aspects to his game already mastered or close to mastered that WILL result in goals. His off-the-ball movement is one of the best I've seen from ANY striker, let alone a teenager. His goal against Juventus is my favorite of the season because it shows how even though he's not at his physical peak being so young, his intelligence, movement, and anticipation help him score against one of the best defense in the history of the Champion's League. He scored a similar goal against City, and has done it in Ligue 1. These are not lucky goals, nor are they characteristics that I can see go away anytime soon. Martial's second season at Manchester has been a bust, but Martial never had those characteristics. Martial is a good dribbler, has a decent finish, but doesn't have the movement of a striker like Mbappe, nowhere even close, and I'm not sure he's a very intelligent footballer yet (but neither was Cristiano until later in his career, so who knows?).
And Michael Owen was also a world beater at Mbappe's age having scored 47 goals and lit up the world cup as a teenager. The reality is we don't know how most fantastic teenagers turn out, but the odds are they will not be once in a lifetime players like Messi or Ronaldo.
As for your 2nd paragraph, I'm neither overly cautious or in muppet mode. I prefer to take a sensible approach and see how he fares in his 2nd year before self-immolating myself in Mbappe mania.
Perez hadn't done any of his galacticos signings recently.
Let him go to them now better than joining us for 2 seasons then asking to leave after he finishes his development here!
And anyway I was strongly against paying such a ridiculous price in a 18 years old who played only one season till now, whether he comes good or not, it's a gamble we can't afford at the moment considering our needs in many positions.
Let him go to them now better than joining us for 2 seasons then asking to leave after he finishes his development here!
And anyway I was strongly against paying such a ridiculous price in a 18 years old who played only one season till now, whether he comes good or not, it's a gamble we can't afford at the moment considering our needs in many positions.
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Mbappe is better than both. Look at his movement, passing, shooting. The kid has it all.
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